Overclocking a 1070 Ti with MSI Afterburner... I want to Outperform my Vega 64

[Sasqui]

I'm no noob at overclocking CPU and Memory, been doing it for decades. But, last night was my first foray into overclocking an Aorus GTX 1070 Ti using Afterburner. The only thing I've done so far is raise the boost to 122%. In Time Spy Extreme, I'm getting very close to the Vega 64. The GPU clock topped out at right around 2000 according to GPUz, GPu temp peaked at 61c, fans at 40% (and barely audible... I did mess with fan curves). and everything was stable. I have unlocked the core voltage, but haven't touched it or the power limits.

Are there any goto MSI Afterburner guides for a 1070 Ti, including what NOT to do? There's a lot to it, it seems, and knowing voltage and other limits, sweet spots, etc would be helpful. With a CPU/Mem on a motherboard, I always overclock each component individually, and I assume I should do the same with the card GPU/Mem. OC'ing can be tedious, but obviously rewarding...

I have run Kombustor, but it only seems to load the card at 80% ...at least that's what it's telling me (?). For now, I've been using the following for benches and stability testing:

1. Time Spy
2. Time Spy Extreme
3. Fire Strike
4. Fire Strike Extreme
5. Fire Strike Ultra
6. Sky Diver

TIA!

 

[fullinfusion]

Lol good luck beating the 64 but nothing ventured nothing gained right.. besides I'm being a smart ass.. good luck though.

I use furmark kombuster to undervolts/overclock my Vega cards and I can get 100% utilization but I had to screw with it a bit to get the activity LEDs to max.

What you score in 3dmark are you getting so far? I'm interested as I can match and go above a 64 on a 56.

As for AB I have no idea. I use an AMD utility to change clocks on the fly while running furmark to find my highest boost @ whatever voltage or setting I change just to see if its a + or -

 

[Sasqui]

Lol good luck beating the 64 but nothing ventured nothing gained right.. besides I'm being a smart ass.. good luck though.

I use furmark to undervolts/overclock my Vega cards and I can get 100% utilization but I had to screw with it a bit to get the activity LEDs to max.

What you score in 3dmark are you getting so far? I'm interested as I can match and go above a 64 on a 56.

As for an I have no idea. I use an AMD utility to change clocks on the fly while running furmark to find my highest boost @ whatever voltage or setting I change just to see if its a + or -

Love a challenge, lol. I'd rather keep the Vega 64, that's why I have the Freesync monitor you see in my specs. I don't have access to the scores right now... will post over the weekend and if you are willing to help pushing the Vega 64, I'm very much game. First, I want o focus on the 1070 Ti, since I don't feel like swapping the cards out

The particular 1070 Ti in question has a really good cooling solution - 4 direct CU heatpipes and 3 fans: https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N107TAORUS-8GD#kf

And... here's a blurb on getting the 1070 Ti over a stock Vega 64: https://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/11/02/msi_geforce_gtx_1070_ti_gaming_titanium_review

 

[Vya Domus]

Max-out the power limit and for maximum OC I suggest fiddling with the frequency-voltage curve.

There isn't really much you can't do.

 

[Sasqui]

Max-out the power limit and for maximum OC I suggest fiddling with the frequency-voltage curve.

There isn't really much you can't do.

I did find this: https://www.msi.com/blog/need-more-fps-try-overclocking

 

[Vya Domus]

They don't mention the frequency curve but that's the most effective way of overclocking method with Pascal.

In front of the Core Clock slide there is button like a chart thing. You need to basically adjust the curve so that between 1.093V and ~1.050V it's set to stay at the desired frequency.

 

[ruff0r]

Max-out the power limit and for maximum OC I suggest fiddling with the frequency-voltage curve.

There isn't really much you can't do.

Like he said, In Msi Afterburner you can enable Temp Limit,Power limit and Volt Limit in the options which shows you when you reach a limit point.

Raise your power limit to max Then open a benchmark like Heaven benchmark , i wouldnt recommend Furmark since it pushes your card beyond what any game will ever do, and look into Afterburner which limit you hit first Temp,Volt or Power and then raise your clock accordingly until you hit the next Limit, i am pretty sure you will hit Power and Temp limit first.

 

[Sasqui]

They don't mention the frequency curve but that's the most effective way of overclocking method with Pascal.

In front of the Core Clock slide there is button like a chart thing. You need to basically adjust the curve so that between 1.093V and ~1.050V it's set to stay at the desired frequency.

That's a start there, I don't see that (this is copied straight from the MSI site):

 

[Vya Domus]

You mean you don't have this ?

 

[Sasqui]

You mean you don't have this ?

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See!?!?!? I had no idea that was even a button. Just learned something new

 

[newtekie1]

Lol good luck beating the 64 but nothing ventured nothing gained right.. besides I'm being a smart ass.. good luck though.

I don't really see this being that hard. At stock the 1070Ti is like 1-6%* behind a stock Vega64. I'm pretty sure that can be made up with overclocking.

You could probably do a dirty overclock, just add 200MHz to the memory and +150MHz on the base clock(as well as maxing out the power limit at the same time), and it should be at or above Vega64 performance in most things. And I'm pretty sure most 1070Ti's should handle that overclock without issue(might need a voltage bump).

*Depending on Resolution

 

[Sasqui]

I don't really see this being that hard. At stock the 1070Ti is like 1-6%* behind a stock Vega64. I'm pretty sure that can be made up with overclocking.

I've already gotten within 1% in both Time Spy and Time Spy Extreme, so yea. I want to push the 1070 Ti harder to go over that... looking for tips

Also, since I own both cards, I'll eventually try OC'ing the Vega 64... but first the 1070 Ti

(as well as maxing out the power limit at the same time

So what exactly does the power limit mean? I assume if it goes over a certain power draw, it'll drop the GPU speed? Also... same with the temp? Is there a safe limit to set these at? How do I know if the power limit has been exceeded???

What's a safe increase on the GPU core voltage?

 

[fullinfusion]

Love a challenge, lol. I'd rather keep the Vega 64, that's why I have the Freesync monitor you see in my specs. I don't have access to the scores right now... will post over the weekend and if you are willing to help pushing the Vega 64, I'm very much game.

Yes me too just for shits and giggles .. Sure hit me up, I have a few tricks to help you if you have the time

Vega is a bitch but its not if it can handle it it's if it's tuned properly it'll handle it

But sorry on the TI as I don't usually wonder from the walls of AMD cards.. Its what I love and prefer. I wasn't trolling I was just stating a Vega can most deffently run nice maintained clocks if set up right.

 

[Sasqui]

Yes me too just for shits and giggles .. Sure hit me up, I have a few tricks to help you if you have the time

Vega is a bitch but its not if it can handle it it's if it's tuned properly it'll handle it

But sorry on the TI as I don't usually wonder from the walls of AMD cards.. Its what I love and prefer. I wasn't trolling I was just stating a Vega can most deffently run nice maintained clocks if set up right.

Hey I got thick skin... and I don't wander from AMD that often either. Probably in two days, I'll circle back and we can start a thread on overclocking Vega. Both have their challenges when it comes to overclocking, I'm certainly learning that. Why is MSI the only one that makes a tool for all other GTX 10xx cards to be overclocked?

 

[newtekie1]

So what exactly does the power limit mean? I assume if it goes over a certain power draw, it'll drop the GPU speed? Also... same with the temp? Is there a safe limit to set these at? How do I know if the power limit has been exceeded???

What's a safe increase on the GPU core voltage?

You are correct with the power limit. The card will start to lower its clock speeds below the maximum boost if it starts to use too much power.

In my experience, simply increasing the power limit will actually give you a higher boost clock a lot of the time.

I believe it is safe to max both out. Though the temp on a good cooled card should never get close to the max you set.

You can monitor if your card is hitting the power limit in GPU-Z. There is a graph in the sensors tab that will tell you perfcap reason, if it says PWR then you are hitting the power limit. You should also have a TDP graph.