overclocking a....phone. You know, the kind with the "i" in front.

[AMDCam]

Hey guys,

I don't usually check up on this site too much anymore, mostly cause my questions are a little past the normal realms of desktop hardware nowadays. But I happen to have an iPhone 3g. Forget the jailbreaking and trendy unlocking 1 click kinda hacking that every user in the world is not only capable of doing, but proud of doing and brag like it's an achievement. But I'm talking about overclocking the seriously age-showing muscle-lacking ARM processor it's got in there. OS4 is the biggest reason to wanna experiment with this, as it's nowhere near as smooth as it used to handle now. And games that're optimized for 3Gs speeds but still CAPABLE (like Gangstar and things) of running on the 3G, would be awesome to see run smoothly. It's really the perfect candidate for a legitimate overclock, and the best part is it's apparently factory underclocked to 412mhz from the stock 600. But I've scoured the internet looking for apps, fixes, modifiers, anything that'll allow me to mess with clockspeeds, and not only do none apparently work but none even logically make sense.

So does anyone have any idea of any way we can mess with these things? W1zzard and other great minds really almost forged this modern world of overclocking and modifying, and I'm glad I was part of that generation. Cause nowadays any kid with an internet connection thinks it's the 'cool' thing to do, and any idiot with money to spare seems to wanna try it...which really shallowed out this whole enthusiast niche. I'll stop rambling, but if anyone's got info I'd love to hear it. Thanks guys

 

[AphexDreamer]

3 or 4?

3 is @ 600mhz

4 is @ 800mhz

4 is actually underclocked probably to save battery life.

I'd look for an app if anything.

 

[AMDCam]

I've been checkin apps everywhere. I'm talking 3G. The 3G ARM is 412mhz, the 3Gs A8 is 600mhz, the 4 A4 is supposedly 1Ghz like in the iPad, but I'm sure it's been underclocked just like the last models.

 

[AphexDreamer]

I've been checkin apps everywhere. I'm talking 3G. The 3G ARM is 412mhz, the 3Gs A8 is 600mhz, the 4 A4 is supposedly 1Ghz like in the iPad, but I'm sure it's been underclocked just like the last models.

Right 3Gs is 600 4 is underclocked 800.

 

[a_ump]

dam man, if you've done the googling and boo-coodles of searching like you say you have i doubt you could find it here. not that i doubt the amazing minds here at TPU but sounds like you've done as much hw on this as u can. goodluck though be cool to hear.

 

[95Viper]

Hmmm, did you try this:

Hack: Overclock Your iPhone or iPod Touch
Overclock iPhone and iPod Touch CPU Speed

Google is your friend...


EDIT:
Oh, and, by the way, the "any kids" now-a-days are doing some very nice things with their hardware, so I would not group them all together and put them down.
Everyone started somewhere. And, some may go on to develop that next iPhone you use, one day in the future.

 

[de.das.dude]

I've been checkin apps everywhere. I'm talking 3G. The 3G ARM is 412mhz, the 3Gs A8 is 600mhz, the 4 A4 is supposedly 1Ghz like in the iPad, but I'm sure it's been underclocked just like the last models.

its indeed a 1GHz, underclocked for longer battery life.

 

[exodusprime1337]

too bad you don't have a droid, i can get mine to 1.4Ghz and still make it through the day, pretty zippy at that speed too, a little warm though, i froze the phone once though with ln2 and got it down to 2c lol

 

[de.das.dude]

^ cool!

 

[exodusprime1337]

^ cool!

lol real cool, we dipped a stock intel hsf in ln2 till it was freezing and then set the phone on top of it. lol it was fun, same day i benched my 1090t on ln2, good day all around.

 

[mlee49]

EP, thats sweet!!

Are you using an app to OC? I've got a HTC Hero/G1 but dont really care much about the proc speeds.

 

[AMDCam]

Hmmm, did you try this:

Hack: Overclock Your iPhone or iPod Touch
Overclock iPhone and iPod Touch CPU Speed

Google is your friend...


EDIT:
Oh, and, by the way, the "any kids" now-a-days are doing some very nice things with their hardware, so I would not group them all together and put them down.
Everyone started somewhere. And, some may go on to develop that next iPhone you use, one day in the future.

Well thanks very much for the links man, I haven't seen those links before so I'll check em out. And when I say "kids", I'm 21 years old so I really don't have too much room to call guys that. I was 15 when I started on the site though. I'm gettin my masters in computer engineering to develop hardware for Nvidia so, well, I suppose I just wrote that in a way to easily misinterpret it. Go to any overclocking forum, or watch videos, of guys running overclocks that have no idea what they're talking about, but just do it. Like "here I'm running 1.92 MFlops, and overclocked with this slider thingy I run 2 MFlops" and they actually pronounce it- MFlops (Emm). I'll drop that though.

And yeah about the Droid, overclocking those guys are pretty awesome, I've seen cool stuff from the Snapdragon and apparently that Motorola is a monster too. But I think an iPhone, with software made specifically for one spec of hardware, like a gaming console, is gonna see a really practical speed increase when ALL software's supposed to be compatible with it, but the hardware keeps getting bumped up in power (design it for the iPhone 4, but allow it to run on the 3G).

 

[exodusprime1337]

EP, thats sweet!!

Are you using an app to OC? I've got a HTC Hero/G1 but dont really care much about the proc speeds.

i use a rooted droid with a p3 kernel and setcpu for the app, quite easy, you should hop over to droidforums.net and check it out.

 

[rammedst]

nokia n900 arm cortex a8 @1150 here (from 600), actually saves battery life because things gets done quicker and screen is on for less time

 

[AMDCam]

nokia n900 arm cortex a8 @1150 here (from 600), actually saves battery life because things gets done quicker and screen is on for less time

hahahahaha awesome logic.

 

[rammedst]

Well it is true, the LCD uses more power than the cpu on most phones at stock. Additionally, setting up clockspeed vs load profiles means it will switch from 1150mhz to 150 at idle.

 

[guitarfreaknation]

Im thinking of getting my self a droid. Is there any difference in performance between the droidx and the droid?

 

[AMDCam]

Yeah man, the Droid versus the Droid X is a pretty big jump. Imagining it's (Droid) supposed to be the Android-running counterpart to the iPhone 3Gs, they both run ARM Cortex A8 processors, but Apple's is an underclocked 833mhz version (running at 600 as stated above) compared to the Droid's 600mhz version running at 550mhz, and apparently the iPhone has a PowerVR SGX 535 GPU, which is about twice as capable as the Droid's PowerVR SGX 530. The Droid X is like, well an iPhone 4 competitor, running with a 1ghz TI ARM A8 processor too, and as far as I know...still the same SGX 530 GPU. I just found that out, which is kinda angering. Somehow Apple realizes GPU's are the heart of modern electronics before the cool tech-savvy-user-based Droid owners and developers did. The iPhone 4 still uses the SGX 535 like the 3Gs.

Soooo technically, with a CPU bump on both models from Apple and Motorola, the Droid X performance should be a lot better. Especially running an OS like Android. And I see it's really overclockable. But if I ever got an Android phone, running for straight power, I'd go with a Snapdragon in an HTC-based phone. Apparently they're paired up with AMD Z430 GPU's, which I haven't found a lotta specs on but they're based off the Unified Shader Architecture of modern GPU's (they specifically relate it to the Xenos in the 360), but I have no idea how many shader units it'd have.

So to answer your question, the Droid X is definitely a big performance bump. But compared to an HTC, or iPhone for gaming and power, all those pretty extra specs like the sweet "4.3" display" and awesome "Hotspot host" and "8MP camera" features are really just extra features, the raw power isn't there.

 

[mrw1986]

Buy a Nexus One, Galaxy S, or any other high-end Android phone. Problem solved. If you're wondering, I've owned pretty much every high-end phone of the last 4 years.

 

[cdawall]

all of the droids out i have seen can clock up to 1ghz i want to get my devour back and root it.

 

[[Ion]]

all of the droids out i have seen can clock up to 1ghz i want to get my devour back and root it.

I think I'm going to root my MotoDroid when I get home and see if I can OC it to 1ghz

 

[AMDCam]

They all seem to use the same TI processors, so I'm sure they could be underclocked models all using the same exact core, like pretty much all computer processors. 1ghz shouldn't be hard since TI released a 1GHz model anyway

 

[Damian^]

Well thanks very much for the links man, I haven't seen those links before so I'll check em out. And when I say "kids", I'm 21 years old so I really don't have too much room to call guys that. I was 15 when I started on the site though. I'm gettin my masters in computer engineering to develop hardware for Nvidia so, well, I suppose I just wrote that in a way to easily misinterpret it. Go to any overclocking forum, or watch videos, of guys running overclocks that have no idea what they're talking about, but just do it. Like "here I'm running 1.92 MFlops, and overclocked with this slider thingy I run 2 MFlops" and they actually pronounce it- MFlops (Emm). I'll drop that though.

K, i just went over to XS. Some teenager just overclocked their chip with Ln2.

But wait, hes not from your generation, blasphemy! Cut him off from technology!

 

[AMDCam]

K, i just went over to XS. Some teenager just overclocked their chip with Ln2.

But wait, hes not from your generation, blasphemy! Cut him off from technology!

Oh lord. You didn't get it. But I'm not gonna explain it any further. So yeah, blasphemy.