Overclocking Amd phenom ii x6 1090t problems.

[Kartoffel]

So i bought this new motherboard MSI 970 Gaming, i think it has 6+2 power phase.
I bought it because i wanted to overclock my CPU to about 4-4.2ghz but here is my problem, i can't even get stable at 3.4ghz....
I have disable everything in the bios as you should to overclock. CPU smart protection, Cool ‘n’ Quiet, C1E and Spread Spectrum but i still can't overclock somehow.
I have tried everything 3.4, 3.5, 3.6ghz and so on and even played with the voltage and set it as high as 1.45V but i somehow get bluescreen no matter what.

Can any1 help?

My specs.
MSI 970 Gaming motherboard
Amd Phenom ii x6 1090T 3.2Ghz CPU
Cooler Master TX3 Evo, will upgrade to water if i can get overclocking to work.
8GB ram ddr3 1333mhz
MSI 390 GPU
Cooler Master V850 PSU, i know it's overkill but i got it on sale.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

1090T you say, hmmmmm, firstly, welcome to the finest techsite.


a friend brought one round earlier for us to have some fun with,
its crunching at 100% at 3.724 ghz
which is
16 x 232.8
@ 1.46v
on a ROG Crosshair IV
8gb ram
HD 6950

we have many missions to accomplish this evening so further help will be forthcoming but not necessarily soon.

 

[cdawall]

6+2 power phase problems. You have a 125w chip in a midrange board that isn't designed for anything bigger than a 125w cpu. Multpile reviews also show dead boards after overclocking.

Try being counter-intuitive and lower the voltage after bumping the multi one or two.

 

[Kartoffel]

6+2 power phase problems. You have a 125w chip in a midrange board that isn't designed for anything bigger than a 125w cpu. Multpile reviews also show dead boards after overclocking.

Try being counter-intuitive and lower the voltage after bumping the multi one or two.

I have just tried to lower the to 1.28V and it crashes at 3.4Ghz, i guess ill have to send it back. It's weird because i've seen others with fx 8350 at 4.5ghz and so on. And my old board with 4+1 power phase could overclock to 3.7ghz with 1.4V but i stopped quickly.

 

[buildzoid]

6+2 power phase problems. You have a 125w chip in a midrange board that isn't designed for anything bigger than a 125w cpu. Multpile reviews also show dead boards after overclocking.

Try being counter-intuitive and lower the voltage after bumping the multi one or two.

I ran that board on LN2 with over 200W of power going to the CPU. The VRM is fine for a Phenom II.

OP try using the FSB to overclock. Just remember to keep the RAM and NB in spec. Also when do you get BSODs and what does the BSOD say? Do you get it under load or when idling? Make sure the chip doesn't go over 62C under load many Phenom II chips get really unstable when above that temp regardless of voltage.

 

[cdawall]

I ran that board on LN2 with over 200W of power going to the CPU. The VRM is fine for a Phenom II.

OP try using the FSB to overclock. Just remember to keep the RAM and NB in spec. Also when do you get BSODs and what does the BSOD say? Do you get it under load or when idling? Make sure the chip doesn't go over 62C under load many Phenom II chips get really unstable when above that temp regardless of voltage.

Phenom II deneb or thuban? I have little faith in anything less than 8+2VRM setups. It might work it might not. From the sounds though he has a different issue 3.4ghz should work on even the most basic of boards.

 

[buildzoid]

Phenom II deneb or thuban? I have little faith in anything less than 8+2VRM setups. It might work it might not. From the sounds though he has a different issue 3.4ghz should work on even the most basic of boards.

FX 8320E running Cinebench R11.5 and 15 at 6.3Ghz using 1.78V. I was benching for about 3 hours.

CB11.5

CB15

The VRM uses 2 70A low side MOSFETs per phase. Admittedly these are the shoddiest 70A MOSFETs I've ever seen and they can only do 70A at 25C but even at 90C they should do at least 20A each so about 40A per phase and 240A to the core in total. I've heard of one case of someone killing the 970 Gaming when trying to get an 8350 to 5Ghz on water cooling. Unfortunately I left the board in Prague so I can't go and test what the power draw at 5GHz is but the Phenom IIs use less current on the VRM output side than the FX chips so OP should be fine up to 3.8Ghz at the very least.

 

[eidairaman1]

I have just tried to lower the to 1.28V and it crashes at 3.4Ghz, i guess ill have to send it back. It's weird because i've seen others with fx 8350 at 4.5ghz and so on. And my old board with 4+1 power phase could overclock to 3.7ghz with 1.4V but i stopped quickly.

chip could be degrading, Get a 990FX board and Call it a day. On Air I can get 4.7GHz stable for OCCT, after that Watercooling is required

 

[Kartoffel]

Phenom II deneb or thuban? I have little faith in anything less than 8+2VRM setups. It might work it might not. From the sounds though he has a different issue 3.4ghz should work on even the most basic of boards.

Thuban, can you explain why the motherboard automatic puts the CPU voltage to 1.35? when it's 1.3 and i have used 1.25 on my old motherboard

 

[Kartoffel]

I contacted the place where i bought it from, and i will try to replace it. I really like the motherboard, i really wanna have it to work because it fits with the rest of the system and i like the soundcard which i use with my audio technica headset.

 

[cdawall]

Thuban, can you explain why the motherboard automatic puts the CPU voltage to 1.35? when it's 1.3 and i have used 1.25 on my old motherboard

That is based off of the cpu microcode. Each cpu is different and will have a different default voltage. This is a result of binning, high vcore chips are known for clocking better when extreme clocking, while low vcore chips clock higher on air/water and give lower temperature these are known as low leakage CPU's.

 

[Kartoffel]

That is based off of the cpu microcode. Each cpu is different and will have a different default voltage. This is a result of binning, high vcore chips are known for clocking better when extreme clocking, while low vcore chips clock higher on air/water and give lower temperature these are known as low leakage CPU's.

hmm, good to know. But i think it's high so i manually set it to 1.3V, but on my old board i ran it at 1.25V

 

[uuuaaaaaa]

My 1100T does 3.7GHz at 1.3V just adjusting the multi. I have the cpu-nb at 1.15v and 2400MHz, ram is at 1600MHz. For Thubans or Denebs bsods usualy mean memory or memory controller problems... cpu vid problems (low voltage) usualy results in black screens.

 

[Kartoffel]

My 1100T does 3.7GHz at 1.3V just adjusting the multi. I have the cpu-nb at 1.15v and 2400MHz, ram is at 1600MHz. For Thubans or Denebs bsods usualy mean memory or memory controller problems... cpu vid problems (low voltage) usualy results in black screens.

nice, but my problem is i cannot even do 3.4ghz by just adjusting the multi. It crashes no matter what i do. I'll send this board in and hope what comes back is better

 

[Kartoffel]

Update

I bought the Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P Rev. 2 and now i can overclock, but when i overclock through bios it only overclocks core 1... I think i have to wait for bios update.

 

[uuuaaaaaa]

Update

I bought the Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P Rev. 2 and now i can overclock, but when i overclock through bios it only overclocks core 1... I think i have to wait for bios update.

Did you disable turbo core and all the power saving features?

 

[Kartoffel]

Did you disable turbo core and all the power saving features?

Yes, everything. And sat load line calibration to medium so the vcore was somewhat stable.

 

[SnakeDoctor]

What Bios version you on?

Bios update - M3/M4 - Improved system stability,Improved memory compatibility.

Does the ram stay it its default 1333 once overclock?

 

[Kartoffel]

What Bios version you on?

Bios update - M3/M4 - Improved system stability,Improved memory compatibility.

Does the ram stay it its default 1333 once overclock?

I switched to the motherboard Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P Rev. 2, where the latest bios is FB which im using.
The ram stays at 1333 because i only changed the multiplier not the fsb.

 

[OneMoar]

the silicon lottery Lost it you have .....

 

[Johan45]

You could try upping the CPU_NB voltage. Some of the Thubans needed a little extra push there and it's hard to say where those boards set it on auto. Try setting it manually to 1.3v and see if that helps.

 

[Exeodus]

Does it BSOD as soon as Windows tries to load, or only while attempting a stress test?

 

[Kartoffel]

Heres an example on how it looks like when i overclock from Bios

 

[OneMoar]

your chip has hit its limit what more can we tell you
goto 1.55v if that doesn't do it call it
most phenoms require >1.5 for 4Ghz

 

[uuuaaaaaa]

your chip has hit its limit what more can we tell you
goto 1.52v if that doesn't do it call it

My 1100T easily does 4GHz @ 1.4v... I think his problem is the board. I mean his 1090T should easily do 3.6GHz on all cores. When he oc's he is just overclocking one of the cores, there must be an option or something to even the frequency between all cores, or select which cores you want to oc!