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PC boots to windows desktop - then shuts down without any errors.

Ok, so I am here for an update, in case somebody gets into very similar situtation as I did.

The cooling liquid (even the brand new, non-ionized yet) leaked onto the motherboard during it being powered and operating. The leak caused a short circuit of sorts that resulted in permanent damage that was not fixable via drying components in an oven, or cleaning via contact cleansers and high grade isopropyl alcohol.
The damage caused eventual shutdown after several seconds, or minutes after PC being launched, and this shut off could unceremoniously, and without warning or an error, shut the PC immediately, whether it is in the process of windows, bios, or even sitting idle at the "American Megatrends" logo.

Got a new functioning used mobo, and the problem is gone. All other components safe and functioning.

Thanks everyone for giving their opinions and time on how to fix this shit.
 
Ruvik said:
Ok, so I am here for an update, in case somebody gets into very similar situtation as I did.

The cooling liquid (even the brand new, non-ionized yet) leaked onto the motherboard during it being powered and operating. The leak caused a short circuit of sorts that resulted in permanent damage that was not fixable via drying components in an oven, or cleaning via contact cleansers and high grade isopropyl alcohol.
The damage caused eventual shutdown after several seconds, or minutes after PC being lyaunched, and this shut off could unceremoniously, and without warning or an error, shut the PC immediately, whether it is in the process of windows, bios, or even sitting idle at the "American Megatrends" logo.
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Obviously too late for the prior issue, but to me it sounds like cracked solder on a joint.
At idle it runs longer than under load due to the heat it creates to separate the joint shutting it down.
If you still have the Motherboard it a be repairable if the cracked joint is found.
 
So it seems the AIO units do carry a risk, I will monitor my h100i v2 X2 more closely with corsair link.
 
er557 said:
So it seems the AIO units do carry a risk, I will monitor my h100i v2 X2 more closely with corsair link.
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It wasn't an AIO, it was a custom loop. It never leaked on me, but one day i decided to do a new repaste and forgot to tighten fitting around the CPU mount.

So It is an entirely my fault. However, i don't know about AIO coolers that much. Some people say they are more secure because they are done at the factory, and other people say that they are less secure because there is less human quality control and approach that leads to leaks.

Caring1 said:
Obviously too late for the prior issue, but to me it sounds like cracked solder on a joint.
At idle it runs longer than under load due to the heat it creates to separate the joint shutting it down.
If you still have the Motherboard it a be repairable if the cracked joint is found.
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I would really like to hear more about that. I will keep the board. So what exactly a "cracked" join entails? It sounds a bit abstract.
lexluthermiester said:
So which board did you decide on?
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X99 Deluxe for around 170 dollars.
I decided not to go with that MSI one, as i am really dumb when it comes to BIOS, and I only ever had experience with Asus one. I am not sure which one is better though. Judging by the MSI afterburner, it seems like MSI does know a lot more about viable software than other brands, but i decided not to risk.
 
Ruvik said:
It wasn't an AIO, it was a custom loop. It never leaked on me, but one day i decided to do a new repaste and forgot to tighten fitting around the CPU mount.

So It is an entirely my fault. However, i don't know about AIO coolers that much. Some people say they are more secure because they are done at the factory, and other people say that they are less secure because there is less human quality control and approach that leads to leaks.
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This actually one of the reasons I use and promote mineral oil as a coolant instead of water based solutions. Even if it leaks, it will not fry anything as it's not conductive and non-corrosive. Then it's as simple as cleaning it up, fixing the leak, topping off the reservoir and you're good to go.
Ruvik said:
So what exactly a "cracked" join entails? It sounds a bit abstract.
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Finding it will be the first task and will require careful and close inspection. Next you'll need soldering equipment to resolder the cracked joint, if there is one to be found and you can find it. Those kinds of repair are possible, but have a certain level of involvement.
Ruvik said:
X99 Deluxe for around 170 dollars.
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That's a decent price.
Ruvik said:
I decided not to go with that MSI one, as i am really dumb when it comes to BIOS, and I only ever had experience with Asus one.
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That's fair, no worries.
Ruvik said:
Judging by the MSI afterburner, it seems like MSI does know a lot more about viable software than other brands, but i decided not to risk.
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A lot of people give MSI undue harshness for some of their mistakes, however MSI does make a fair amount of quality stuff, software and hardware.
 
Don't want to hijack the thread but....wow...I've never heard of using mineral oil in a water-cooling loop.

I assume it's a bit harder to push through the system?

Are there any issues with running a higher viscosity fluid?

I'm intrigued!
 
Candor said:
Don't want to hijack the thread but....wow...I've never heard of using mineral oil in a water-cooling loop.
I assume it's a bit harder to push through the system?
Are there any issues with running a higher viscosity fluid?
I'm intrigued!
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See PM..
 
lexluthermiester said:
See PM..
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Hmm, could you send me the info about that too? Or in this thread. I really want to know about that, but i was always skeptical about mineral oil as coolant.

Whatever videos I saw on youtube from different people, they always placed their systems in a sorts of fish tank, filled to the brim with oil. It ended up kind of being a passive, static cooling, instead of circulation and ventilation.

I suppose you could DIY some form of pump that is more powerful and fit for such an application, but I would be afraid it takes too much space, takes too much work, and probably makes too much noise.

I just have that reservoir/pump combo 140 unit from EKWB.
 
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