PC Randomly Restarting after installing new Ram!

[Jetster]

Have you tested the memory with memtest?

 

[Daryl Gill]

Fill all four slots and the stable verified max is 1333 for the integrated memory controller in your CPU, with 2x8gb double sided memory, I found the cpunb needed more volts with higher clocks of memory but I'd go with all in max memory and 1333 with tight timings of 8,9,9,21,40 I run mine at that fine all year long any faster and occasionally an error occurred.
I've messed for hours and you don't get many FPS in games with higher clocked memory on AMD.

I tried

Fill all four slots and the stable verified max is 1333 for the integrated memory controller in your CPU, with 2x8gb double sided memory, I found the cpunb needed more volts with higher clocks of memory but I'd go with all in max memory and 1333 with tight timings of 8,9,9,21,40 I run mine at that fine all year long any faster and occasionally an error occurred.
I've messed for hours and you don't get many FPS in games with higher clocked memory on AMD.

After my last post I tried again at 1866mhz and the xmp profile enabled, but after roughly 45mins of gaming my PC just restarted, no BSOD. I will try fill the 4 slots and your recommended speed/timings and see how I get on... Appreciate the advice

 

[Daryl Gill]

Have you tested the memory with memtest?

No I have not, don't really know much about it, but will look it up

 

[Solaris17]

Have you tested the memory with memtest?

This. Its the first thing I would have done.

 

[Durvelle27]

Memtest and possibly trying a different PSU as well

But I once had a 8350 with RAM at 2100MHz and I can tell you it's hard to get stable above 1600MHz. You will have to time kernel with the CPU and increase the voltages in order to get it to play nicely. I had to run RAM at 1.55v and increase the voltage of the CPU some as well but I also ran at 5.1GHz daily.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

This. Its the first thing I would have done.

This is what I have done for hours I could probably post a timings screany but I'm out and remote linked through my phone makes stuff tricky.
Xmp profiles are for Intel anyway with no support from AMD ,it and timings above base settings are what make high clock memory on AMD tricky , I have a gaming profile with timings at 1866 32Gb but I rarely switch to it in reality and getting it's timings optimised was tricky requiring hours of testing and tweaking, no IMC is the same as another some heat up big time like mine does.
And there is little info on exactly what timings to setup on the net.
All memory should be compatible at 1333 jedec speeds from a technical standpoint and time and again I think it's this what people are referring to on compatibility terms.
For more expect messing with limited returns.

 

[Daryl Gill]

When adding the 2 older sticks, should I stick to the same slot arrangment i.e slots 1 & 3 and slots 2 & 4 or do I put the matching ram side by side or does it not matter?

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

When adding the 2 older sticks, should I stick to the same slot arrangment i.e slots 1 & 3 and slots 2 & 4 or do I put the matching ram side by side or does it not matter?

Yes odds n evens don't mix sets but I doubt it matters around jedec speeds tbh.

 

[Daryl Gill]

Yes odds n evens don't mix sets but I doubt it matters around jedec speeds tbh.

Ok well I think I have done it right! On cpu-z the ram is showing as side by side, but they are alternated on the board. Does everything look ok to you? I will try do some gaming again and hopefully have no problems!

 

[Mr.Scott]

You are currently running a tighter CL timing than Jedec spec. You are pissing in the wind when you change things without testing.

 

[Daryl Gill]

You are currently running a tighter CL timing than Jedec spec. You are pissing in the wind when you change things without testing.

I really don't understand all this, I was just hoping to just plug the ram in and carry on haha. Are the maxxmem results of any use to determine if it's running correctly? It's all giberish to me!

 

[Durvelle27]

Do you really need 24GB of RAM. As those extra sticks only help by putting more strain on the memory controller which is only dual channel

 

[Daryl Gill]

Do you really need 24GB of RAM. As those extra sticks only help by putting more strain on the memory controller which is only dual channel

No idea, I wanted to just upgrade from the 8gb I had to 16gb as the PC definitely needs it. But seems silly to buy 16gb then have to run it slower and not see any difference. I hate technology sometimes!

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

No idea, I wanted to just upgrade from the 8gb I had to 16gb as the PC definitely needs it. But seems silly to buy 16gb then have to run it slower and not see any difference. I hate technology sometimes!

Felt that way to me when I went 32 it's just memory only really shows a dark side when it runs out , unless we're talking other quad channel platforms there's no performance to be gained more a matter of maintained .
Ie less stuttering and loading but it's all subjective, I've still got 32 in

Also to compensate for advising above (ie alternative)you could probably turn your IMC up to 2400 with no more volts run HT the same and I will post my 1866 timings and volts later for you to try cos I have a boot with just two X 1866 Corsair setup stable but I'll have to reboot my folder to get them and I have no work tomorrow so I'm out partying(yeah I do ignore mate's just surf tpu) ATM.

 

[Jetster]

This. Its the first thing I would have done.

It's probably just me but every set I buy I run memtest for one pass.

 

[jboydgolfer]

@Daryl Gill

Have you taken the steps that we spoke about earlier when you first posted this thread?

If yes is your answer, are you still experiencing instability?

If no is your answer, take those steps!

Also the memtest that everyone's mentioning. Is just a command you enter into command prompt I believe it's MEMTES T if I recall correctly, which will bring up the memory test when you reboot it will stress your RAM and verify its integrity, or lack there of.

 

[Solaris17]

@Daryl Gill

Have you taken the steps that we spoke about earlier when you first posted this thread?

If yes is your answer, are you still experiencing instability?

If no is your answer, take those steps!

Also the memtest that everyone's mentioning. Is just a command you enter into command prompt I believe it's MEMTES T if I recall correctly, which will bring up the memory test when you reboot it will stress your RAM and verify its integrity, or lack there of.

I dont use the windows one.

 

[Jetster]

@Daryl Gill


Also the memtest that everyone's mentioning. Is just a command you enter into command prompt I believe it's MEMTES T if I recall correctly, which will bring up the memory test when you reboot it will stress your RAM and verify its integrity, or lack there of.

No, its a program you boot to USB or disk. Memtest86 http://www.memtest86.com/

It stresses the memory and will quickly identify any problems. No need to run it for hours, one pass is fine

 

[Daryl Gill]

@Daryl Gill

Have you taken the steps that we spoke about earlier when you first posted this thread?

If yes is your answer, are you still experiencing instability?

If no is your answer, take those steps!

Also the memtest that everyone's mentioning. Is just a command you enter into command prompt I believe it's MEMTES T if I recall correctly, which will bring up the memory test when you reboot it will stress your RAM and verify its integrity, or lack there of.

Yes I tried what we spoke about and still the problem. I have lowered the speed and timings to what was suggested and have just played over an hour with no problems. Will now try my music software and hope I have no problems

 

[Daryl Gill]

Felt that way to me when I went 32 it's just memory only really shows a dark side when it runs out , unless we're talking other quad channel platforms there's no performance to be gained more a matter of maintained .
Ie less stuttering and loading but it's all subjective, I've still got 32 in

Also to compensate for advising above (ie alternative)you could probably turn your IMC up to 2400 with no more volts run HT the same and I will post my 1866 timings and volts later for you to try cos I have a boot with just two X 1866 Corsair setup stable but I'll have to reboot my folder to get them and I have no work tomorrow so I'm out partying(yeah I do ignore mate's just surf tpu) ATM.

Seems ok at the lower settings for now, not sure I I noticed much difference in gameplay, maybe a little bit, but playable. Would be interested in trying some other suggestions and maybe learn some stuff as I go

 

[Daryl Gill]

I dont use the windows one.

How long should I run memtest for? Would be a good idea to check if all is ok.

 

[Durvelle27]

No idea, I wanted to just upgrade from the 8gb I had to 16gb as the PC definitely needs it. But seems silly to buy 16gb then have to run it slower and not see any difference. I hate technology sometimes!

Well RAM doesn't go fast because of extra space especially if the program being used doesn't take advantage of the extra RAM. Unless you're doing video editing or some type of intensive program that needs more RAM or higher spends you won't see any benefit above 16GB 1600MHz with tighter timings. I myself ran 24GB of RAM but my CPU also supported triple channel and I encode/edit which eats up RAM. But the average user will never exceed even 9GB.

 

[Solaris17]

No, its a program you boot to USB or disk. Memtest86 http://www.memtest86.com/

It stresses the memory and will quickly identify any problems. No need to run it for hours, one pass is fine

How long should I run memtest for? Would be a good idea to check if all is ok.

 

[erocker]

I tried


After my last post I tried again at 1866mhz and the xmp profile enabled, but after roughly 45mins of gaming my PC just restarted, no BSOD. I will try fill the 4 slots and your recommended speed/timings and see how I get on... Appreciate the advice

Often, XMP or the motherboard won't supply enough voltage to the RAM (sometimes, but not as often too much). With XMP enabled, go back into your bios and see what the RAM voltage is actually reading. If your don't have that reading in the bios try a program like Everest or some other utility. If it's too low, raise the voltage (small steps) until at the proper voltage.

 

[Daryl Gill]

Well RAM doesn't go fast because of extra space especially if the program being used doesn't take advantage of the extra RAM. Unless you're doing video editing or some type of intensive program that needs more RAM or higher spends you won't see any benefit above 16GB 1600MHz with tighter timings. I myself ran 24GB of RAM but my CPU also supported triple channel and I encode/edit which eats up RAM. But the average user will never exceed even 9GB.

I would be happy with just 16gb, but I know it needs more than 8 when playing certain games and while doing my music production.