Performance issue with new intel 660p 1tb

[gasolin]

Is there something wrong with my mb,ssd? I have over 300gb free space and software is up to date

Intel SSD 660p 1TB SSD Review With QLC NAND Flash - Page 4 of 9 - Legit Reviews

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My results


Other benchmarks it's normal (all benchmarked while playing musick "tidal hifi" in the background) http://www.thessdreview.com/featured/intel-ssd-660p-m-2-nvme-ssd-review-1tb/3/

 

[EarthDog]

When benchmarking, you shouldn't be doing anything else in order to get an accurate score. I don't believe that to be the issue, but just an FYI moving forward.

As far as the ATTO results, that drop is odd and shouldn't really be happening.

I see you have another thread about this drive and 'heat'... could that be a part of it? Why not open up an app that monitors the temp and run atto and see how hot it gets...

 

[gasolin]

When benchmarking, you shouldn't be doing anything else in order to get an accurate score. I don't believe that to be the issue, but just an FYI moving forward.

As far as the ATTO results, that drop is odd and shouldn't really be happening.

I see you have another thread about this drive and 'heat'... could that be a part of it? Why not open up an app that monitors the temp and run atto and see how hot it gets...

No heat problems

The unfortunately thing is that if i remove the sticker i can't return it and bit i should have full warranty although som stickers say removing it will avoid warranty

 

[Kapone33]

Which PCI_E M2 slot are you using that in the first or the 2nd?

 

[newtekie1]

The drive is 70% full, which means the SLC cache is almost nothing. It's going to hurt performance for sure.

 

[gasolin]

Which PCI_E M2 slot are you using that in the first or the 2nd?

The first pci slot,i wouldn't be able to score as high as i do in crystaldiskmark if i didn't use the first m.2 slot under the heatsink

The drive is 70% full, which means the SLC cache is almost nothing. It's going to hurt performance for sure.

They say keep 10-15% free space, that's no less than 100-150gb free space

 

[Kapone33]

The drive is 70% full, which means the SLC cache is almost nothing. It's going to hurt performance for sure.

You are absolutely correct I think. This ius taken from Tom's review of the drive

" We simulated the condition with a worst-case test, and the 1TB model fell to ~100 MB/s after writing 130GB of data from an empty state."

 

[er557]

what a garbage of a drive, never ever buy QLC and especialy those cheap units.

 

[Kapone33]

what a garbage of a drive, never ever buy QLC and especialy those cheap units.

The drives are not garbage. Though not the best these are fine to use as data drives.

 

[gasolin]

That's why atto only was tested up to 8mb ?

Intel SSD 660p 1TB Review: QLC Goes Mainstream

Intel's SSD 660p marks the debut of QLC flash for the consumer market. We review the new flash brings SATA-like pricing to the NVMe segment.

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[EarthDog]

That's why atto only was tested up to 8mb ?

Intel SSD 660p 1TB Review: QLC Goes Mainstream

Intel's SSD 660p marks the debut of QLC flash for the consumer market. We review the new flash brings SATA-like pricing to the NVMe segment.

www.tomshardware.com

Why? Do tell.................................

" We simulated the condition with a worst-case test, and the 1TB model fell to ~100 MB/s after writing 130GB of data from an empty state."

What review said this??????? Link....

 

[gasolin]

So what to buy instead?

The samsung 970 evo 500gb i had a few month ago was sooooooo hot, close to 70c when i had it under my heatsink (no sticker removed), couldn't live with this kind of high temps close to my gpu.

Why? Do tell.................................

To hide the performance loss above 8mb?

 

[EarthDog]

To hide the performance loss above 8mb?

Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut the ATTO result you linked in the first post from legit reviews clearly shows it works fine up there....performance drops a bit, but clearly it does NOT look like your result...

 

[Vario]

I don't use heatsinks on my two NVMe drives. My 970 PRO 500GB NVMe doesn't get over 40C. Same with the Inland/Phison 1TB NVMe. Probably your heatsink is to blame. Run it with no heatsink. The heatsink is probably acting as an insulator of heat rather than a conductor of heat. Also as a comparison for how drives in the same price segment as the 660P, these were both purchased on the cheap. The 970 Pro was $130 and the Inland was $120. 660P is a terrible drive for the price.
Samsung

Inland:

You should have stuck with the 970 Evo and run it with no heatsink, its meant to be run with the sticker exposed.

 

[EarthDog]

My 970 PRO 500GB NVMe doesn't get over 40C.

Wow.. how? Mine idles at 40C, loads to almost 60C.... I've never seen these run at 40C... that's idle temps, heatsink or not.

 

[gasolin]

Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut the ATTO result you linked in the first post from legit reviews clearly shows it works fine up there....performance drops a bit, but clearly it does NOT look like your result...

I know but if there really is a performance drop show it, did they test above 8mb?

Wow.. how? Mine idles at 40C, loads to almost 60C.... I've never seen these run at 40C... that's idle temps, heatsink or not.

Mine did, thats why i dropped the idea of using a nvme x4 ssd but wanted the extra speed from a nvme x4 ssd for almost no extra cost

Ask GN 90: M.2 Heatsinks Kill SSDs? Is AMD Losing Long-Run?

 

[EarthDog]

I know but if there really is a performance drop show it, did they test above 8mb?

You would have to ask Tom's why they don't test above 8MB. THat is their process, it wasn't just with this drive.

Thanks, but I'm not watching a 26 minute video to find whatever it is you are talking about there.

 

[gasolin]

just click on the video it's only a min or 2

I don't know why it won't start playing from the question at 6.13 min, look at the upper right corner for time stamps

It start's already at 40% but is constant from 35-40% and up https://www.anandtech.com/show/13078/the-intel-ssd-660p-ssd-review-qlc-nand-arrives/7

 

[Kapone33]

Why? Do tell.................................

What review said this??????? Link....

Toms Hardware

 

[newtekie1]

I know but if there really is a performance drop show it, did they test above 8mb?

Their test wouldn't show the problem either, because they test on empty drives. The fuller the drive, the smaller the SLC cache is. The SLC cache is dynamically assigned based on how full the drive is.

They likely don't test above 8MB because average users aren't dealing with files larger than 8MB that often, so the results don't really matter to the average user.

 

[theonek]

terrible performance!! Return it while you still can and buy something better, there are plenty of brands with much better performance....QLC is just a no go!

 

[Deleted member 158293]

Wow these QLC drives are even worst than I thought... WAs maybe thinking for just my games library, but no... Will stay far away...

 

[gasolin]

no i can't, as i already said as soon as the sticker is removed i can't return it .

I also don't know what to buy since i don't want to pay double price of what i payed for the intel 660p 1tb for a different 1tb faster ssd

Im not a big pc nerd (don't know what all technical terms,names mean) but it surprisd me that Seq (sequential) in AS AAS Benchmark is so low under 250 mb/s, isn't it surpose to be alot higher? Like 5-8 times?

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What to buy instead ?

 

[Cheeseball]

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Phison E12 controller

 

[Vario]

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Phison E12 controller

The E12 1TB is the same drive I use for my steam library. Great drive, very fast. Compares to the 970 Pro I have in terms of speed.

Wow.. how? Mine idles at 40C, loads to almost 60C.... I've never seen these run at 40C... that's idle temps, heatsink or not.

The 970 Pro is idling at 35*C now. I don't think I've seen it over 43*C and thats leaving HWMonitor up for a while and checking the max occasionally. I just did a copy of a 17GB game directory (FiveM) across drives from the Inland Phison E12 NVMe to the 970 Pro to see if it would heat up and it hasn't gone above 41*C. No heatsink on this drive just the sticker. It sits above my Phanteks PHTC14PE below my graphics card.