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Phanteks Enthoo Pro II

kapone32 said:
I like how being made in China and having plastic drive bays
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No problem, then you can not use any other foreign advice, lets finish it here.
 
@kiriakost enough with the ranting gibberish BS. Have fun with your Thermaltake. My Phanteks Evolv X m-ATX case is laughing ;)
 
cucker tarlson said:
if they're that cheap then effin include a couple

go ahead and build that dual system in a case with no fans.it'll cook.
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Case has shitty fans, moan because they used shitty fans and you have to replace them, case has no fans and you can pick whatever you want, moan because lack of cooling out of the box....
 
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panzar said:
Case has shitty fans, moan because they used shitty fans and you have to replace them, case has no fans and you can pick whatever you want, moan because lack of cooling out of the box....
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how about they use a couple of decent ones
 
Gmr_Chick said:
Like, who fucking cares?
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The one called as wallet holder and owner. I bet also that Phanteks it also prefers getting paid than making donations of PC cases at persons with poor quality of character.
 
kiriakost said:
Thanks for the productive reply, but this is the half truth, in our decade plastics decomposition this is a norm by a law that all plastics they should be recyclable.
I am in need having the confidence that one PC tower it will not collapse within 20 years.
New cases they are full of plastic and rubber parts which no one seem to care for their planned longevity.
In the next years we will start to read complains that rubber parts at PC case cables management, they start to decomposing and the case now looks ugly.
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PC design, technology, and system needs change so much in 20 years that nobody should be expected to keep the same PC case for 20 years.

Even most 10 year old PC cases are outdated for modern systems. Sure you can put a system in a 10 year old case, but cooling requirements and storage requirements are different and require customization, storage adapters, IO adapters, adapting mounts, etc for most 10 year old cases to function like a modern case.

kiriakost said:
The smart consumer he should always evaluate small details and do some thinking ahead of time.
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There is a difference between planning ahead and being ridiculous.
 
kiriakost said:
No problem, then you can not use any other foreign advice, lets finish it here.
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This is what I see;

Fact: You love your PC
Fact: You love how long you have been able to use that case and some compnents.
Fact: For what a modern full tower with those accoutrements; the Phanteks case is an excellent value.
Fact: The overwhelming majority of case manufacturers use subpar fans that most enthusiasts put in the recycling bin.
Fact: A case with this level of radiator support is usually more than $250 US.

Your love for your PC has made it so that you have become so intoxicated by the fumes your conceit you refuse to see the subjective BS you are posting. As i have said before have you had any Phanteks products (fans, RGB frames, cases) to substantiate your position?
 
Bavor said:
PC design, technology, and system needs change so much in 20 years that nobody should be expected to keep the same PC case for 20 years.

Even most 10 year old PC cases are outdated for modern systems. Sure you can put a system in a 10 year old case, but cooling requirements and storage requirements are different and require customization, storage adapters, IO adapters, adapting mounts, etc for most 10 year old cases to function like a modern case.



There is a difference between planning ahead and being ridiculous.
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There is no modern or new case for a small server at full tower class with height 52 ~56 Cm and ability to host several HDD drives among optical ones.
Nowadays there is actually just one case compatible and this is still manufactured by Chieftec in Taiwan. ( They still collect the money because they are smart )

I will categorize your clan at the inexperienced youth as computer builder regarding poor skills at planning and making decisions.
My two Raptor HDD at 10.000 rpm and with 65000 Hours of operation with a buying price of 320 Euro both, they will never boil in to a cheap game case.
They never did that so far, because they have a non ridiculous Owner.

Regarding my activities and comments in this thread all that I did so far this is to remind at Phanteks
That they can also copy and the past good metal processing practices and quality ideas in their own cases so them to improve.
Basically if the product reviewer were not that soft and was strict instead, he should be the one pointing out the poor points instead of me.

PC cases this is science of metallurgy , this is metal processing involved, the best reviewer this is a 50 years old machinist and no one else.
0.6 of thickness this is equivalent to a fish-can, the real PC cases are made at 1mm of thickness and a full tower this has a weight of 12.5 kilos.
Computer components radiates RFI emissions, the case is a shield and must be well grounded to earth, and be painted by NON-TOXIC materials or else you will get cancer.

In summary I am going to give my positive vote only if something is worthy in the world of grownups and experts regarding computing.



kapone32 said:
Your love for your PC has made it so that you have become so intoxicated by the fumes your conceit you refuse to see the subjective BS you are posting. As i have said before have you had any Phanteks products (fans, RGB frames, cases) to substantiate your position?
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My advice, go to shoot a few monsters in your PC screen, in fifteen years from now you will then agree with me at 100%, now your are blinded due inexperience.
 
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kiriakost said:
There is no modern or new case for a small server at full tower class with height 52 ~56 Cm and ability to host several HDD drives among optical ones.
Nowadays there is actually just one case compatible and this is still manufactured by Chieftec in Taiwan. ( They still collect the money because they are smart )

I will categorize your clan at the inexperienced youth as computer builder regarding poor skills at planning and making decisions.
My two Raptor HDD at 10.000 rpm and with 65000 of operation with a buying price of 320 Euro both, they will never boil in to a cheap game case.
They never did that so far, because they have a non ridiculous Owner.

Regarding my activities and comments in this thread all that I did so far this is to remind at Phanteks
That they can also copy and the past good metal processing practices and quality ideas in their own cases so them to improve.
Basically if the product reviewer were not that soft and was strict instead, he should be the one pointing out the poor points instead of me.

PC cases this is science of metallurgy , this is metal processing involved, the best reviewer this is a 50 years old machinist and no one else.
0.6 of thickness this is equivalent to a fish-can, the real PC cases are made at 1mm of thickness and a full tower this has a weight of 12.5 kilos.
Computer components radiates RFI emissions, the case is a shield and must be well grounded to earth, and be painted by NON-TOXIC materials or else you will get cancer.

In summary I am going to give my positive vote only if something is worthy in the world of grownups and experts regarding computing.





My advice, go to shoot a few monsters in your PC screen, in fifteen years from now you will then agree with me at 100%, now your are blinded due inexperience.
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You aren't pointing out anything whatsoever though. You're just rambling.

What the hell does PC gaming have to do with computer cases? :wtf:

See, rambling.
 
Gmr_Chick said:
You aren't pointing out anything whatsoever though. You're just rambling.

What the hell does PC gaming have to do with computer cases? :wtf:

See, rambling.
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I do not deliver teaching free of charge for products made of some industry.
Neither I care of bitching and bursts of anger from anonymous people.

See, wasting peoples time .. when I am incompatible to understand the involved knowledge and terms.
 
bubbleawsome said:
Isn't that you here? :confused:
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My blue eyes all that they can see this is a bunch of kids expecting bragging rights due a cheap tower case.
All technical facts has be demonstrated, I would expect the manufacturing brand (one of their engineers ) to pop in (step in) the conversation and to offer explanations.
I am not sacrificing any more my expensive Greek brain cells in to this conversation.
Game over.
 
kiriakost said:
There is no modern or new case for a small server at full tower class with height 52 ~56 Cm and ability to host several HDD drives among optical ones.
Nowadays there is actually just one case compatible and this is still manufactured by Chieftec in Taiwan. ( They still collect the money because they are smart )

I will categorize your clan at the inexperienced youth as computer builder regarding poor skills at planning and making decisions.
My two Raptor HDD at 10.000 rpm and with 65000 Hours of operation with a buying price of 320 Euro both, they will never boil in to a cheap game case.
They never did that so far, because they have a non ridiculous Owner.

Regarding my activities and comments in this thread all that I did so far this is to remind at Phanteks
That they can also copy and the past good metal processing practices and quality ideas in their own cases so them to improve.
Basically if the product reviewer were not that soft and was strict instead, he should be the one pointing out the poor points instead of me.

PC cases this is science of metallurgy , this is metal processing involved, the best reviewer this is a 50 years old machinist and no one else.
0.6 of thickness this is equivalent to a fish-can, the real PC cases are made at 1mm of thickness and a full tower this has a weight of 12.5 kilos.
Computer components radiates RFI emissions, the case is a shield and must be well grounded to earth, and be painted by NON-TOXIC materials or else you will get cancer.

In summary I am going to give my positive vote only if something is worthy in the world of grownups and experts regarding computing.





My advice, go to shoot a few monsters in your PC screen, in fifteen years from now you will then agree with me at 100%, now your are blinded due inexperience.
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In fact there is one that supports 5.25, 3.5 and 2.5, the Phanteks Enthoo Pro...............I am not even going to bother posting a pic but I guess it's made in China so..... Even the Thermaltake Core X9 or X5. Before that Cooler Master HAF922 do you need more?

My advice, go to shoot a few monsters in your PC screen, in fifteen years from now you will then agree with me at 100%, now your are blinded due inexperience.
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Inexperience? Do you remember Interceptor? Space Racer? Zeliard? Silpheed? I guess those are modern games maybe I should tell you that I also played Pong as a kid. Furthermore I have been around technology all of my life due to my Dad so if you think I have a Threadripper build because I am inexperienced you would not understand that it is because I can appreciate a 8 to 64 core CPU package just to acknowledge how far we have come from 300Mhz single core packages . Of course you would not know about WIFI 6 or NVME RAID or the best thing about overclocking the AMD CPU is RAM speed (to a point).
 
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