Pls help me decide on a stop-gap upgrade (CAD currency)

[iameatingjam]

They have a sale on the 12600kf now, almost same price as a 12400f. I can save about $200-300 by going with this vs a 7600/9600x.

If you can get the 12600kf for the price of a 12400f then I would do it.

 

[Marcus L]

If you're 2 years away from the budget to build a decent rig, and your current one still serves your needs, then I'd suggest waiting. Just because Windows 10 will stop receiving updates soon it doesn't mean you can't use it.

A stopgap only means buying parts that are below your standards, which ultimately, eats into your budget for the final build. Not worth it, imo.

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[JediMindTricks]

What can one do to stay on windows 10 after EOL?

I could upgrade to windows 11 with some workarounds, I just don't want things to stop working.

I guess I could play more on the xbox for the next 2 years while I wait for AMD and Intel to release the good stuff.

 

[AusWolf]

What can one do to stay on windows 10 after EOL?

Just not uninstall it?

 

[JediMindTricks]

Lol, come on now, you know what I mean.

The more days go by after EOL, the riskier it gets to connect to the internet with it.

 

[AusWolf]

Lol, come on now, you know what I mean.

The more days go by after EOL, the riskier it gets to connect to the internet with it.

If you visit those dodgy sites and click on links left and right, definitely.

 

[JediMindTricks]

Ah, Microsoft ESU, did not know this was a thing.

$30 for one year? Well it's def cheaper than new cpu+mobo+ram+storage.

I think I might do this, perhaps by the end of 2026, Zen 6 v-cache cpus will be out. That or Nova lake will be my upgrade.

 

[R-T-B]

the fear, uncertainty, doubt about Windows 10 is about businesses…

It's also categorically about patching stopping, which will happen. That isn't FUD so its best to be forward thinking there.

If you visit those dodgy sites and click on links left and right, definitely.

It's more than that. Try connecting to the internet with an XP box and not clicking anything. It doesn't last long. Granted of course it will take a bit for 10 to reach that state.

Patches matter and while it won't matter immediately by any means, the more time goes by the worse it gets.

Ah, Microsoft ESU, did not know this was a thing.

$30 for one year? Well it's def cheaper than new cpu+mobo+ram+storage.

I think I might do this, perhaps by the end of 2026, Zen 6 v-cache cpus will be out. That or Nova lake will be my upgrade.

That's a valid stopgap measure too, not trying to fear monger. ESU is legit.

 

[AusWolf]

It's more than that. Try connecting to the internet with an XP box and not clicking anything. It doesn't last long. Granted of course it will take a bit for 10 to reach that state.

Patches matter and while it won't matter immediately by any means, the more time goes by the worse it gets.

I don't think it's that bad, but let's agree to disagree on this one.

If someone is scared, they can always opt for a decent antivirus software. Or Linux. Not to mention how much better Linux can be for general tasks if one picks the perfect distro and desktop for one's needs, but I digress.

Edit: If one is scared of spyware, they shouldn't use Windows in the first place.

 

[R-T-B]

I don't think it's that bad,

Well of course it isn't YET but the point I was making is having a migration plan for when it does get there is good forward thinking. Not much more to read into my statements than that, to be clear.

And yeah, XP started off with a pretty bad security model vs 10 so comparing the two directly might be slightly unfair.

 

[AusWolf]

Well of course it isn't YET but the point I was making is having a migration plan for when it does get there is good forward thinking. Not much more to read into my statements than that, to be clear.

And yeah, XP started off with a pretty bad security model so comparing the two directly might be slightly unfair.

I'm not pretending to know what it's like to browse the interwebs on an XP machine in 2025, but how can it be that bad? You just have to avoid dodgy websites which you should anyway. I don't think you'll have malware on your system just by browsing TPU or doing online banking, for example.

 

[R-T-B]

I'm not pretending to know what it's like to browse the interwebs on an XP machine in 2025, but how can it be that bad? You just have to avoid dodgy websites which you should anyway.

SMB flaws alone (and XPs firewall by default will try to enable both ipv6 and those ports, even in SP3) can have a worm infection just get you in minutes, not hours. No clicking required. Worms aren't a new concept either, all it takes is one unpatched zeroday and XP has several.

Theres a reason it is outright banned in government and medical. You don't need to click anything to be infected, just have an internet accessible IP with default settings.

Of course thats decades old XP. Even 7 is miles better off than that.

 

[nomdeplume]

Chase and I do mean CHASE the lowest cost processor and best mobo from either red or blue.

I can't believe the motherboard will cost me more than the cpu, crazy times.

In other words, don't count on the economy or availability in two years. Shop smart now either at retail or in the used market. Aim for a balanced system. GPU + i3(AMD equivalent) might be valid reason for imbalanced system.

3rd gen is a highly reasonable place to feel a need to upgrade from. Do what's right for you when it's right for you.

 

[JediMindTricks]

Well, starting 1 May, I'm putting aside money every month for a late 2026/early 2027 build, depending when all the components release and how availability and pricing will be.

I might just upgrade to windows 11 and customize the iso myself, and strip out all the garbage like copilot, recall and whatnot.

I don't know what will happen, but cpu will probably be either Zen 6 x3d (dead platform), or Nova Lake(Intel change chipsets more than I change socks).
Gpu RDNA 5/UDNA 1(pls use 8 pin) or 6000 series(pls use 8 pin). I doubt Intel will have anything high end in the discrete gpu.
I have a 144hz ips 1440p LG monitor, I might keep it, or upgrade to an OLED, depending how the monitor market is.

 

[dgianstefani]

Well, starting 1 May, I'm putting aside money every month for a late 2026/early 2027 build, depending when all the components release and how availability and pricing will be.

I might just upgrade to windows 11 and customize the iso myself, and strip out all the garbage like copilot, recall and whatnot.

I don't know what will happen, but cpu will probably be either Zen 6 x3d (dead platform), or Nova Lake(Intel change chipsets more than I change socks).
Gpu RDNA 5/UDNA 1(pls use 8 pin) or 6000 series(pls use 8 pin). I doubt Intel will have anything high end in the discrete gpu.
I have a 144hz ips 1440p LG monitor, I might keep it, or upgrade to an OLED, depending how the monitor market is.

Literally just use 11 24H2 LTSC. No faffing needed.

Gpu RDNA 5/UDNA 1(pls use 8 pin) or 6000 series(pls use 8 pin). I doubt Intel will have anything high end in the discrete gpu..

None of these will use 8-pin besides maybe an entry level card.

 

[JediMindTricks]

None of these will use 8-pin besides maybe an entry level card.

Pls no, unless they fix the 12 pin, I hope they go back to 8 pin. If AMD does use 8 pin and Nvidia does not, I will get AMD, even if they might offer 10-15% lower performance

 

[dgianstefani]

Pls no, unless they fix the 12 pin, I hope they go back to 8 pin. If AMD does use 8 pin and Nvidia does not, I will get AMD, even if they might offer 10-15% lower performance

12V-2x6 is a 16 pin connection.

 

[JediMindTricks]

Okay, but you knew what I meant.

 

[LabRat 891]

12V-2x6 is a 16 pin connection.

PCI-e +12V 12+4

 

[dgianstefani]

PCI-e +12V 12+4

12+4=16

 

[mechtech]

Go AM4

 

[AusWolf]

Well, starting 1 May, I'm putting aside money every month for a late 2026/early 2027 build, depending when all the components release and how availability and pricing will be.

That's a good idea, imo.

I might just upgrade to windows 11 and customize the iso myself, and strip out all the garbage like copilot, recall and whatnot.

Why not look at Linux? What's the point of taking the extra mile debloating a paid OS if you can have a trouble-free experience out of the box for free?

I don't know what will happen, but cpu will probably be either Zen 6 x3d (dead platform), or Nova Lake(Intel change chipsets more than I change socks).

Dead platform? With all due respect, that's reviewers' bullshit. You buy a CPU to use it, not to look at what comes next for the same motherboard. If you're on AM4, for example, you may very well skip AM5 and look at the next option. In that sense, AM4 is not a dead platform. It's still very relevant and very usable for years to come.

Same story with Intel changing chipsets. Who cares? You're not gonna change CPUs every gen, are you?

Gpu RDNA 5/UDNA 1(pls use 8 pin) or 6000 series(pls use 8 pin). I doubt Intel will have anything high end in the discrete gpu.
I have a 144hz ips 1440p LG monitor, I might keep it, or upgrade to an OLED, depending how the monitor market is.

Nvidia will definitely not use 8-pin on any future card. AMD pretty much leaves it to its partners right now, I'm sort of expecting this trend to continue. But for how long, who knows.

 

[JediMindTricks]

Why not look at Linux? What's the point of taking the extra mile debloating a paid OS if you can have a trouble-free experience out of the box for free?

I like tinkering, and I use the xbox ecosystem a lot.

 

[Frizz]

Perfect time to continue waiting at the moment we are at the last legs of this shit show of new CPUs (Intel) and GPUs.

Suggest looking into cloud gaming services in the mean time where possible while riding out the storm. I used a handheld for almost half a year as my main PC and it felt like I had a 4080 installed in the thing thanks to GeforceNOW and XBOX Pass .

 

[JediMindTricks]

Yeah I also hope Nova Lake is a return to form for Intel. It will still have a hybrid architecture with big.little cores, but maybe they will make some impressive gains in gaming, although I don't think they will beat Zen 6 x3d in gaming.

As for Gpus, yeah if AMD can challenge the throne, maybe Nvidia will pull their head out of their ass.

With next gen consoles coming within the next 2 years and a half, 16gb vram cards are dead to me. 24gb at a minimum or bust.