Postulation: Is anyone else concerned with the proliferation of AI?

[Redwoodz]

Just heard that Apple is planning on installing camera's in their next watches. Not for the consumer but just to gather info for AI. This is a huge violation of our privacy imho.

 

[ZenZimZaliben]

I've just seen a pressure washer from a budget brand with an "AI pump" in it. Does anyone have any idea what that is about?

AI is the hot trend. Everyone is using it in some form. Look at LinkedIn, suddenly every "Leader" is also now an "Ai Expert". SERPs and Algo's eat this up and rank it higher up and give more impressions to advertisers that are using AI in some fashion. Even if it is a water pump which of course is total marketing BS, but you saw the Ad.

 

[lexluthermiester]

AI is the hot trend.

Yes, it is. It's one that is here to stay, but it's not something everyone needs to use. EDIT: And certainly not something that people should forced to have on their personal computing devices.

 

[AusWolf]

Just heard that Apple is planning on installing camera's in their next watches. Not for the consumer but just to gather info for AI. This is a huge violation of our privacy imho.

Never liked Apple, and I don't think I ever will.

Yes, it is. It's one that is here to stay, but it's not something everyone needs to use. EDIT: And certainly not something that people should forced to have on their personal computing devices.

I couldn't agree more.

 

[ZenZimZaliben]

It's not going away and will only get better and worse...just like the internet. It's amazing and also a social disaster. AI will be 10x the impact of the internet for better and worse. If we don't get a head of it as a species it could be disaster. I mean if America or Europe make strong policies against AI to keep it in check, then China or other countries will not and will develop it as fast as possible with total disregard.

 

[lexluthermiester]

It's not going away and will only get better and worse...just like the internet. It's amazing and also a social disaster.

TRUTH!

 

[SRS]

"Puritans are people who are intensely concerned that someone somewhere might be having fun."

I don't remember who said that but it has always made me laugh and seemed apropos. I don't think policing people's fantasies, which came up immediately in the comments here, is a useful way to spend one's time. I care a lot more about real-world problems (like the record number of anti-environment actions that have been taken by a certain administration. It's helpful to have a non-polluted functioning biosphere to be able live — something that's rather more basic than most concerns). People read novels like 50 Shades that glorify beating women. People read and watch horror, in which bad things happen to good people. Fictional products are fictional, right?

I think it's absurd to police fictional images, whether they're AI-generated or drawings of various deities. There is a long history of rhetoric around that kind of thought control, from the time of mothers being turned into salt pillars for looking at something those in power said is for their eyes only, to arguments about censoring AI for adults today. These things are fully interwoven and should be looked at critically. Anyone who thinks pointing this out is "off topic" especially needs to think about this issue. Book banning is picking up a lot of steam again right now. There are a lot of people who want to control even others' fantasies and thoughts. The glib censorship of AI shows how little respect many have for others' adulthood and agency. The terminology is flawed, like "Not Safe For Work." Among the problems with that invention is the idea that the erotica industry doesn't involve a lot of livelihoods and a lot of work.

I've read Stephen King novels in which horrific things happen to good people. They were sold in supermarkets. I read some of his books when I was 12. How is that okay? Shouldn't that have been censored, too? Don't violent video games promote asocial acts? It's fascinating to see how quickly and glibly people are content to censor AI but not other things, like video game violence. I found it strange and disconcerting that so many people thought of drowning their Sims in pools and seeing how many they could catch on fire intentionally but if that's how so many people want to play the game that's their business. One of the keys to liberty is the realization that different people want different things in their fantasy life.

Knowledge is also power so it's unsurprising that some of the censorship pressure on AI is designed to limit the ability of ordinary people to work with knowledge those in power want to keep for themselves. Overclassification is a real problem and that mentality extends to overzealous censorship in all formats. As AI becomes more developed, I expect this issue to become more pressing. The energy and water use are already important issues. There is also the issue of noise pollution and biosphere degradation from things like habitat loss from sprawling "development." There are so many already polluted urban spaces and yet people keep destroying good soil and wildlife habitat because of perverse incentives. Land that is forested carries a lower real estate value than acres of 1/2" chemically-barren lawn.

For the "think of the children" crowd, start caring about things like this. Congential syphilis should not be happening in a "rich" nation.

There is also the issue of using AI to dehumanize/randomize policing, as with AI-guided drone bombings of people and their structures and dystopian AI "dogs." And, the health industry has shown itself to be capable of being extremely irresponsible with faulty AI as a method of trying to justify denying treatments to people who need them. Blame the AI not I might become the next "I don't recall" defense.

 

[Space Lynx]

If AI is as feared as it is said to be, because it it will be so smart, well maybe, just maybe it won't be like a hollywood movie and it will actually save us from ourselves with new inventions, like self-healing concrete, so many variables it would takes us decades to test them all, but maybe AI can speed up inventions that will save us all, medicine, to robotics, to improving farming techniques, solar panel efficiency, and so on.

I only hope AI moves faster and faster, cause we are running out of time before this thing called civilization completely collapses due to mass crop failures, etc.

 

[DemonicRyzen666]

The only issue I'm seeing with the expansion of A.I right now is older A.I models made stuff managing to fool it. Like eating it's own poop or it believing it's own hallucinations..
As for training they don't even need to train in real world now they can train in simulations that run at a 1,000 of times faster than What real world training would limit it too.
Replacing the works you pay that stimulate your economy would just cause a collapse of it instantly.

 

[Space Lynx]

The only issue I'm seeing with the expansion of A.I right now is older A.I models made stuff managing to fool it. Like eating it's own poop or it believing it's own hallucinations..
As for training they don't even need to train in real world now they can train in simulations that run at a 1,000 of times faster than What real world training would limit it too.
Replacing the works you pay that stimulate your economy would just cause a collapse of it instantly.

I imagine the self-contained LAN AI's that the government is using and/or private research companies is much better than we fully comprehend, we don't have access to those. So, I just try to remind myself, when a new beta version of chatgpt impresses me, those private companies and research departments had way better version of this one even like 6 months before probably.

 

[A Computer Guy]

If AI is as feared as it is said to be, because it it will be so smart, well maybe, just maybe it won't be like a hollywood movie and it will actually save us from ourselves with new inventions, like self-healing concrete, so many variables it would takes us decades to test them all, but maybe AI can speed up inventions that will save us all, medicine, to robotics, to improving farming techniques, solar panel efficiency, and so on.

I only hope AI moves faster and faster, cause we are running out of time before this thing called civilization completely collapses due to mass crop failures, etc.

Imagine it being used as a tool by people who think they are being smart and want to use it to eliminate their perceived enemies by using it to create genetic specific pathogens while the AI model erroneously indicates there is only a 10% chance it will wipe out 99% of humanity.

It's not going away and will only get better and worse...just like the internet. It's amazing and also a social disaster. AI will be 10x the impact of the internet for better and worse. If we don't get a head of it as a species it could be disaster. I mean if America or Europe make strong policies against AI to keep it in check, then China or other countries will not and will develop it as fast as possible with total disregard.

The real trick isn't keeping AI in check but keeping people in check not to use AI in a way that leads to epic disaster.

 

[Space Lynx]

Imagine it being used as a tool by people who think they are being smart and want to use it to eliminate their perceived enemies by using it to create genetic specific pathogens while the AI model erroneously indicates there is only a 10% chance it will wipe out 99% of humanity.


The real trick isn't keeping AI in check but keeping people in check not to use AI in a way that leads to epic disaster.

Gain of Function research and accident leaks were happening already in the past, even pre-2019, I really don't think AI is an issue here, genetically modified warfare has been a major threat since CRISPR was invented and everyone knows this. It's the same as mutually assured destruction theory, we just have to hope the men who choose Chaos over Nation never come into power.

We didn't learn our less and put limits on Gain of Function research, that alone tells me this is a human issue, if anything AI will recognize how fucking stupid we are and take this ability away from us.