Principled Technologies is sponsored by Intel and Intel is also a major developer of BenchmarkXPRT family of benchmarks, which is published by none other then Principled Technologies.
But did you know that AMD has commissioned not one but thirteen reports from them as well?
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As an enthusiast reviewer, I agree.They either had no idea what did what to what, or they did and that makes it even worse. as I said their methodology pales in comparison to part time amateur youtuber’s and there’s zero excuse for that. They contradict themselves claiming they understand the importance of parity and then saying but we used the stock cooler because “amd said it was good”. Come on.
As for RAM, they’re again trying to have it both ways and plead ignorance “but this is what the average guy would do” while also claiming to be professionals interested in parity across systems, but without actually taking the most basic steps of controlling for every possible variable and ensuring each system is presented in the best light possible, because nobody is interested in how a Ferrari 488 performs against a Ferrari 458 in limp mode because it’s throwing codes.
As an enthusiast reviewer, I agree.
As a technical writer, I can see why they did what they did, and actually I kind of agree with how they did things.
Now, would I have run tests like that? NOPE.
Will I run tests like that? NOPE.
Could I have done it differently, and would Intel still have won the majority of benchmarks?
You bet your ass I could.
And that... that's what makes it bad for me.
But do I care? NOPE, and because it was used for marketing. It just all the more reason for people like me to do what we do.
BTW, amateur youtubers are some of the worst sources of info there is, and the fact you mention them... man... they often have it so misconstrued, and are doing their thing to make money with views, just like Principled Technologies does. I see the youtubers as far worse than PT is. Even negative attention is attention, for marketing. Look ,everyone's talking about Intel's latest, and there's no real reviews, and you can't buy them yet.
PT did an awesome job.
I blame NVidia.Ok yea I guess that’s reasonable, seems like it belongs in a Lemony Snicket tale to me though.
tbc I don’t have an issue with the way they did things, in a vacuum and with proper disclosure/drawing reasonable conclusions. I just don’t think this is that, and I guess it irks me because it’s so unnecessary, as Unnecesary as removing hyperthreading from i7 sku’s suddenly. This should have been a period of majority positive coverage, an 8 core mainstream, if barely, Chip. I really didn’t see any way for them to screw It up.As an enthusiast reviewer, I agree.
As a technical writer, I can see why they did what they did, and actually I kind of agree with how they did things.
Now, would I have run tests like that? NOPE.
Will I run tests like that? NOPE.
Could I have done it differently, and would Intel still have won the majority of benchmarks?
You bet your ass I could.
And that... that's what makes it bad for me.
But do I care? NOPE...
...and because it was used for marketing. It just all the more reason for people like me to do what we do.
BTW, amateur youtubers are some of the worst sources of info there is, and the fact you mention them... man... they often have it so misconstrued, and are doing their thing to make money with views, just like Principled Technologies does. I see the youtubers as far worse than PT is. But they serve a purpose too. Even negative attention is attention, for marketing.
Like...Look... everyone's talking about Intel's latest, and there's no real reviews, and you can't buy them yet.
PT did an awesome job.
I blame NVidia.
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tbc I don’t have an issue with the way they did things, in a vacuum and with proper disclosure/drawing reasonable conclusions. I just don’t think this is that, and I guess it irks me because it’s so unnecessary, as Unnecesary as removing hyperthreading from i7 sku’s suddenly. This should have been a period of majority positive coverage, an 8 core mainstream, if barely, Chip. I really didn’t see any way for them to screw It up.
NO, but really, the recent NVidia launch and pre-order time benefitted NVidia just as much as this might benefit Intel. Paper launches are dumb, but NVidia showed how great they can be.Of course, Jensen is the only one who benefits here, that sneaky bastard
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Ram prices and diminishing returns over 32GB is why 64 is absurd, 300 for 32GB of ram.
Focusing on the wrong thing here. They specifically went for 4 modules to make sure AMD Threadrippers and Intel's X-series have all the bandwidth they can have as both support quad-channel memory. They even say as much in their press release.CEO of principled tech believe that 64GB of RAM is standard for average consumers who buy 9900K or 2700X .
Focusing on the wrong thing here. They specifically went for 4 modules to make sure AMD Threadrippers and Intel's X-series have all the bandwidth they can have as both support quad-channel memory. They even say as much in their press release.
4x16 probably because they had a bunch of these in hand. 4x8 (or 4x4) would not have made much of a difference in context of test results.
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Yeah, he blabbers a lot and contradicts himself. Judging from the interview this guy does not know much about what is going on.He contradicts himself several times on what their intentions are on testing. Watch the Interview
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Principled Technologies is sponsored by Intel and Intel is also a major developer of BenchmarkXPRT family of benchmarks, which is published by none other then Principled Technologies.
But did you know that AMD has commissioned not one but thirteen reports from them as well?
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seriously? I run 32gb, and bet I'm way outside the norm, or at least I was when I did that 3 years ago....