Problem With i7 10700F

[elcamaleon]

Good morning/afternoon guys, a moment ago my new processor arrived and I installed it on my pc (I had an i5 10400F previously installed). As I always do, I checked temperatures and such (I have it installed with a custom Liquid cooling system).

As you can see, both the consumption and the frequency of the processor decrease over a few seconds. I think it could be the voltage regulators (MOS in HWMonitor) since this motherboard does not have heatsinks in the VRMs, leading to temperatures of 98c Max. It is my first time with Intel or rather that I see that conflict.

I leave my configuration:
MSI B460M Pro
2x8GB DDR4 3200MHz HP
AMD RX 6700 XT ASRock Challenger Pro
Custom Watercooling (240mm) XSPC With Phobya WB
Power Supply Redragon 600w 80Plus (Yes, I know, it's bad but I have no problem playing for hours without any problem)

Video about the issue with 135W BIOS Config

Video about the issue with 65W BIOS Config (boxed cooler)

It would be very helpful if you tell me what my problem would be. Thanks in advance.

I added a fan throw wind direct to mosfets. I get a little bit more of stability now

135W:

65W:

 

[QuietBob]

In my opinion operating the VRMs at close to 100c is asking for trouble. Since your mainboard doesn't have any form of VRM cooling, I'd glue some small heatsinks on. In a pinch, you can just point a spare fan at them.

But the glaring issue is your PSU. I wouldn't trust a manufacturer who doesn't even spec their product. My immediate advice is to replace the power supply with a reliable unit before any more testing/troubleshooting.

 

[Assimilator]

What exactly did you expect, putting an i7 CPU in a board with no VRM heatsink?

Power Supply Redragon 600w 80Plus (Yes, I know, it's bad but I have no problem playing for hours without any problem)

Most people never experience a house fire either. Does that mean house fires don't exist, or that they don't kill people?

You would have done much better putting the amount you spent on that 10700F towards a better PSU. And motherboard, for that matter.

 

[elcamaleon]

In my opinion operating the VRMs at close to 100c is asking for trouble. Since your mainboard doesn't have any form of VRM cooling, I'd glue some small heatsinks on. In a pinch, you can just point a spare fan at them.

But the glaring issue is your PSU. I wouldn't trust a manufacturer who doesn't even spec their product. My immediate advice is to replace the power supply with a reliable unit before any more testing/troubleshooting.

I put a fan directly on vrms. It reduced 10c and get more stability. In gonna go for a z590 MB. And then a PSU, but at the moment im not be able to buy one.

What exactly did you expect, putting an i7 CPU in a board with no VRM heatsink?


Most people never experience a house fire either. Does that mean house fires don't exist, or that they don't kill people?

You would have done much better putting the amount you spent on that 10700F towards a better PSU. And motherboard, for that matter.

And i was expecting that works fine. The motherboard says its compatible so i bought the i7. I never use Intel, this is my first one ever.

 

[P4-630]

I never use Intel, this is my first one ever.

And in the OP you said:

(I had an i5 10400F previously installed)

Anyways, if you want to run an i7 and game with it, you should buy a proper motherboard with decent VRM cooling.
Actually most important is buying a good PSU...

 

[elcamaleon]

And in the OP you said:

Well is actually the same, jajaja, that i was trying to say was i never had this kind of issue and a i7.

 

[Assimilator]

And i was expecting that works fine. The motherboard says its compatible so i bought the i7.

"Compatible" means "works". It does not mean "works well" or "recommended". Do your research before buying, not after.

 

[elcamaleon]

"Compatible" means "works". It does not mean "works well" or "recommended". Do your research before buying, not after.

Well well take it easy buddy.

 

[AleXXX666]

In my opinion operating the VRMs at close to 100c is asking for trouble. Since your mainboard doesn't have any form of VRM cooling, I'd glue some small heatsinks on. In a pinch, you can just point a spare fan at them.

But the glaring issue is your PSU. I wouldn't trust a manufacturer who doesn't even spec their product. My immediate advice is to replace the power supply with a reliable unit before any more testing/troubleshooting.

exactly. i7 and 6700xt (230w gpu!) great combo lol. no-name 600w psu could give in worst case 400w, but even this is enough for this system, but, it could be very unstable at such a load on 12v rail lol.
i've had some old i5 or even i3 with radeon hd 7790 gpu with chieftec 500 or 550 w psu, and pc just shut down always in load lol
replaced it with 430w (!) seasonic psu and all good lol

 

[elcamaleon]

exactly. i7 and 6700xt (230w gpu!) great combo lol. no-name 600w psu could give in worst case 400w, but even this is enough for this system, but, it could be very unstable at such a load on 12v rail lol.
i've had some old i5 or even i3 with radeon hd 7790 gpu with chieftec 500 or 550 w psu, and pc just shut down always in load lol
replaced it with 430w (!) seasonic psu and all good lol

193w actually at full load furmark. First im gonna change the motherboard then a psu.

 

[pavle]

You could also try to put some heatsinks on VRMs and a fan with slower RPM, so cooling is optimal and not loud and it'll work just fine. Do what you can...

 

[elcamaleon]

You could also try to put some heatsinks on VRMs and a fan with slower RPM, so cooling is optimal and not loud and it'll work just fine. Do what you can...

Yes, i already put a fan on them. But this is not gonna last, i will chango mobo soon.

 

[AusWolf]

I put a fan directly on vrms. It reduced 10c and get more stability. In gonna go for a z590 MB. And then a PSU, but at the moment im not be able to buy one.


And i was expecting that works fine. The motherboard says its compatible so i bought the i7. I never use Intel, this is my first one ever.

You don't need to pay the "Z tax" with a locked Core i7. A good quality B460 or B560 board will do fine. Just make sure the VRM is built well and has a decent heatsink on it. My Asus TUF B560M-Plus WiFi is a brilliant board, I'd highly recommend it (or even the non-M version if you want the full ATX size).

But still, change the PSU first. A noname unit paired with a high performance CPU and GPU is just asking for trouble. My gold standard is the Seasonic Prime and Focus series. If you need more advice, let us know.

 

[elcamaleon]

You don't need to pay the "Z tax" with a locked Core i7. A good quality B460 or B560 board will do fine. Just make sure the VRM is built well and has a decent heatsink on it. My Asus TUF B560M-Plus WiFi is a brilliant board, I'd highly recommend it (or even the non-M version if you want the full ATX size).

But still, change the PSU first. A noname unit paired with a high performance CPU and GPU is just asking for trouble. My gold standard is the Seasonic Prime and Focus series. If you need more advice, let us know.

Thanks. That MB yours is able to get more Memory Clocks (3200+)?

 

[AusWolf]

Thanks. That MB yours is able to get more Memory Clocks (3200+)?

I'm using it with an 11700 that has an official supported memory speed of 3200 MHz, so in my case, yes. I'm not sure about the 10700, though.

 

[mplayerMuPDF]

What exactly did you expect, putting an i7 CPU in a board with no VRM heatsink?


Most people never experience a house fire either. Does that mean house fires don't exist, or that they don't kill people?

You would have done much better putting the amount you spent on that 10700F towards a better PSU. And motherboard, for that matter.

Only thing I have to add is, a shit PSU can also cause a house fire

 

[AleXXX666]

You don't need to pay the "Z tax" with a locked Core i7. A good quality B460 or B560 board will do fine. Just make sure the VRM is built well and has a decent heatsink on it. My Asus TUF B560M-Plus WiFi is a brilliant board, I'd highly recommend it (or even the non-M version if you want the full ATX size).

But still, change the PSU first. A noname unit paired with a high performance CPU and GPU is just asking for trouble. My gold standard is the Seasonic Prime and Focus series. If you need more advice, let us know.

B560 for memory oc ftw. b460 is old crap which also doesn't support 11 gen.

 

[AusWolf]

B560 for memory oc ftw. b460 is old crap which also doesn't support 11 gen.

OP is on 10th gen.

 

[AleXXX666]

OP is on 10th gen.

B560 do support memory OC with 10 gen too, lol. i run 3200 ram with i3-10100 now and was second rig too with 10105F.