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Current stock spec's for your viewing pleasure :D
 
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A video update for you all.

 

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Out of curiosity, why not a video card that is more in the same time period?
 
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Out of curiosity, why not a video card that is more in the same time period?
Thats a question that has a very long winded answer. The VERY short answer is It all goes back to the original project that was meant to be an old 478 system that would still be useful in todays computing.
 
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#81
I'm currently waiting for some new PC parts to arrive and that's a perfect excuse to play around with my retro nostalgia socket 939 rig which I built a few years ago:

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ 2.4GHz 2x1MB 939 (Toledo) cooled by Zalman CNPS7700CU cooler
ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe
MSI GeForce 7900GTX 512MB
2,048MB of Kingston HyperX 400MHz CL2.5 RAM
500GB HDD
480W PSU
Windows XP Professional

I've been on this rig for something like a week already and I can say it handles basic tasks really well, even plays Youtube 720P videos without a single stutter. Almost all games from 2005-2006 are also butter smooth, the 7900GTX sporting 24pixel and 8 vertex pipes ticking at 650MHz is not a joke. :) The reason this rig feels special to me dates back to when I was 13 years old and had just got into the world of PC hardware. Back then the best chips you could get were Athlon 64 FX-55 2.6GHz and Pentium 4 3.4GHz EE (Gallatin core) from AMD and Intel respectively. I remember I found it really hard to understand how a lower clocked Athlon 64 chip could outperform a higher clocked Pentium 4 chip, so AMD Athlon 64 chips felt somewhat special to me. When the Athlon 64 X2 chips hit the market in 2005 I was under the impression they were sick fast, especially the $1000 X2 4800+. All newer stuff now just comes and goes, however, AMD Athlon 64 series is here to stay with me.
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I know exactly how you feel! That was about the exact same time for me and I remember having all of those thoughts lol. Good times back then!
 
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#82
Would love some pictures of the rig ;D
Sure, here you go a few shots of my socket 939 system:

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Since I'm still waiting for some stuff to arrive before I start building my main rig, today I checked my drawers and found some interesting old stuff. I knew that stuff sat in my drawers for a long long time, though, I did not expect it to be still operational. So, this is what I've just put together:

Intel Pentium 4 3.4GHz HT 800MHz FSB (Northwood core)
ASUS P4P800SE motherboard (I'm still surprised it works)
PowerColor Radeon X800XT Platinum Edition 256MB AGP (520/1120)
Some random 4 sticks of 512MB PC3200 400MHz CL3 Samsung RAM, totaling to 2GB.
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Plextor CD-RW drive
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The system booted at first attemp just fine, so I installed Windows XP and downloaded some old benchmarks like 3DMark03 and 3DMark05. The system was 100% stock in all tests.

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#83
Been a while since this was updated. I just wanted to let everyone know this is still going.

The system has been OC'd to 3.6GHZ but we are having temp issues so I have another maaaaaaad cooler on order and will update you all on that soon. The Video Card also got a little OC by 40MHZ on the memory and the GPU, not much I know but again temp issues that need to be sorted out.

I took the advice I was given by forum member Aquinus and changed out the IDE hard drive for a SATA drive and it really is a lot quicker.

I would say this project has taken a turn and is now more of a "Ultimate 478" system more than anything else.

Here is a link to my Youtube channel (RetroTalk) and a quick video of my son playing Pinball Arcade on the system @ 1440x900, max settings and of course this was under DirectX 9.C as that's the limit for XP.

I'll keep you all posted on the changes as they happen.


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#85
Not sure if i mentioned it - but my mate had a shitty FX5200 back in the day. I switched the passive heatsink to some activecopper cooler that i think came off my 9700 pro. I overclocked the bollocks off that card - I think i managed to push an extra 125-200mhz on the core. memory wasnt so good though, I think i only managed 50mhz before it started artifacting. I was running BF1942 and farcry 1 on it with no problems.
 
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Prescott is the demon itself. The sheer heat output of that satanic 112mm^2 square is a force to be reckoned with. I hope that cooler you're getting is up to the task. Northwood would have made your life that much easier :p (not sure about NW's overclockability though)

My LGA775 P4-530 was so slow and the cooler (stock, but a very thick, burly monstrosity that could soak up some real heat) screamed like an animal. I took to delidding it but forgot that early Intel CPUs were mostly epoxied, so it's dead now. Good riddance. Prescott was an abomination that was (I'd say) worse than Bulldozer for AMD.
 
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As I say, The cooler will be something special :D
 
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Not sure if i mentioned it - but my mate had a shitty FX5200 back in the day. I switched the passive heatsink to some activecopper cooler that i think came off my 9700 pro. I overclocked the bollocks off that card - I think i managed to push an extra 125-200mhz on the core. memory wasnt so good though, I think i only managed 50mhz before it started artifacting. I was running BF1942 and farcry 1 on it with no problems.
Main issue is the card is using non-standard hole spacing. I could buy an aftermarket cooler but I can't find any that have a 45mm spacing, at least nothing better than what is already on it.
 
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#89
Main issue is the card is using non-standard hole spacing. I could buy an aftermarket cooler but I can't find any that have a 45mm spacing, at least nothing better than what is already on it.
What kind of mounting hole does the motherboard have? Are they just holes similar to the LGA115x ones or are they the really stupid raised metal pegs?
 
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What kind of mounting hole does the motherboard have? Are they just holes similar to the LGA115x ones or are they the really stupid raised metal pegs?
The motherboard is a standard socket 478 layout. It's the video card that has the 45mm spacing and that's what is casing the problem when it comes to finding an aftermarket cooler for the card.
 
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You just reminded me that I have to finish my retro P4 build:
P4 3.4GHz Gallatin core
Abit IC7-MAX3
PowerColor X850XT PE AGP with modded arctic cooling ati silencer 5 rev. 2 / Sapphire HD3850 AGP
2Gb Patriot XBLK CL2
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The case is almost finished but I have to order a new chipset heatsink for the MAX3, since the scythe cpu cooler that I ordered is too big, and hits the chipset heatsink...
 
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You just reminded me that I have to finish my retro P4 build:
P4 3.4GHz Gallatin core
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The case is almost finished but I have to order a new chipset heatsink for the MAX3, since the scythe cpu cooler that I ordered is too big, and hits the chipset heatsink...
Thread for it or piccys when you're done please :D
 
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New parts on the way and I should have them and installed by Thursday.
 
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i dont mean to be RUDE but 3 posts in a row:mad:
why dont you just EDIT your POSTS:slap:
 
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i dont mean to be RUDE but 3 posts in a row:mad:
why dont you just EDIT your POSTS:slap:
Three posts in a row? Where?

Last post before today was three days ago and that was in reply to someone else.
 
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#98
Well the system is done and what a difference the new CPU and GPU coolers have made!

The CPU alone used to idle at around 48 degrees and is now down to 31! The video card still runs a little warm but at 37 degrees idle I'm happy. The three system fans (two intake and one exhaust) will be replaced with the same fan as the one installed at the top of the system as it is quieter and seems to move more air.

Only issue was the CPU cooler fouled on one of the timing crystals on the video card but a quick trip to my local locksmith and it was sorted by cutting off the unneeded loop. Not happy I had to cut it off but it was a case of needs must.

Apart from replacing the fans this project is now complete and the system will never change spec or be upgraded further as it is everything I wanted out of a 478 P4 system and more.

I'll be keeping the system forever as far as I am concerned but really it is something to hand down to my eldest son who at 8 years old is very into computers so one day it will be his.

Here is the last of the pictures with a few benchmarks thrown in for good measure. I would like to thank everyone who followed this project and thanks those who gave their advice.


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Memory 8GB GEIL GB38GB2133C10ADC + 8GB G.Skill F3-14900CL9-4GBXL / 2x1GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer PC4000
Video Card(s) Asus R9 Fury X Strix (4096 SP's/1050 Mhz)/ PowerColor X850XT PE @ (600/1230) AGP + (HD3850 AGP)
Storage Samsung 250 GB / WD Caviar 160GB
Display(s) Benq XL2411T
Audio Device(s) motherboard / Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Pro + Front panel
Power Supply Tagan BZ 900W / Corsair HX620w
Mouse Zowie AM
Keyboard Qpad MK-50
Software Windows 7 Pro 64Bit / Windows XP
Benchmark Scores 64CU Fury: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/11269229 / X850XT PE http://www.3dmark.com/3dm05/5532432
Looking forward to that :D
Might have some more stuff for you later on :p

I am finding the max oc on the cpu and gpu's, then i'm gonna bench this beast! Might use my HD3850AGP as well x)

EDIT: Got 15118 3DM 2003 with my X850XT PE, was not expecting to be that much faster than your HD3650... :eek:


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