Q27G2S/EU monitor specification verification, FRC, IPS, DP etc.

[angry.pidgeon]

Hello
I bought Q27G2S/EU https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B09KRZGHK3?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1
which is suppose to have these specifications: https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/afa328f0 most importantly be IPS, have (8 bit +) FRC, DP 1.4 etc.
Instead I got a monitor called Q27G2G3R3B (probably because of the windows 11 generic driver) which I can't find specifications online, and it's hard to read them with software like Windows, AIDA, HWINFO64
Apparently this one has to have FRC because I can select 10 bit in Nvidia control panel. Windows says it's 8 bit. It's IPS supposedly because I can press on the screen and it doesn't change color, however I'm more concerned that this is IPS and not VA. The left right edges clearly darken a bit from an angle of sitting at 40 cm from the monitor, so I suppose 45 degrees? I really don't know if it's normal... on my old TN this didn't happen as I remember, but it's 27" vs 24". However I can still see the image clearly from every angle. As a side note, I can see now why curved monitors exist - also to hide this slight darkening of the far edges (which do not exist at about 100 cm away)
Has a setting for DP 1.2 / 1.4 (don't know why they're bundled together) so I suppose it is DP 1.4 which is required to render everything in any possible mode and frequency
Horizontal frequency in AIDA/HWINFO64 in 250 (241.4 in 1440p), suppose to be 255, ok, no biggie
Installed driver for Q27G2S/EU, Windows still displays Q27G2G3R3B
Otherwise I can't find any more information to work with. Sysoft Sandra tells even less...

 

[tabascosauz]

Hello
I bought Q27G2S/EU https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B09KRZGHK3?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1
which is suppose to have these specifications: https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/afa328f0 most importantly be IPS, have (8 bit +) FRC, DP 1.4 etc.
Instead I got a monitor called Q27G2G3R3B (probably because of the windows 11 generic driver) which I can't find specifications online, and it's hard to read them with software like Windows, AIDA, HWINFO64
Apparently this one has to have FRC because I can select 10 bit in Nvidia control panel. Windows says it's 8 bit. It's IPS supposedly because I can press on the screen and it doesn't change color, however I'm more concerned that this is IPS and not VA. The left right edges clearly darken a bit from an angle of sitting at 40 cm from the monitor, so I suppose 45 degrees? I really don't know if it's normal... on my old TN this didn't happen as I remember, but it's 27" vs 24". However I can still see the image clearly from every angle. As a side note, I can see now why curved monitors exist - also to hide this slight darkening of the far edges (which do not exist at about 100 cm away)
Has a setting for DP 1.2 / 1.4 (don't know why they're bundled together) so I suppose it is DP 1.4 which is required to render everything in any possible mode and frequency
Horizontal frequency in AIDA/HWINFO64 in 250 (241.4 in 1440p), suppose to be 255, ok, no biggie
Installed driver for Q27G2S/EU, Windows still displays Q27G2G3R3B
Otherwise I can't find any more information to work with. Sysoft Sandra tells even less...

Didn't you already have a thread about these monitors?

• 8-bit + FRC is poor man's 10-bit but it's the only 10-bit you'll find at these price points, and it is for all intents and purposes 10-bit.
• 10-bit at 1440p 165Hz requires DP 1.4. Bandwidth over DP 1.2 is insufficient and 10-bit will top out at about 120-144Hz or so.
• VA vs IPS is easy to tell from contrast ratio. AOC advertises it as an IPS screen. I have yet to see an IPS screen reach 2000:1, so anything around 1000:1 should be IPS.
• IPS is not immune to viewing angles...........how do you even tolerate sitting 40cm from a 27" screen?? Darkening corners at that distance is normal.
• Maybe don't go pinching your brand new screen with your fingers in a misguided attempt to tell what display tech it is? lmao

 

[angry.pidgeon]

Didn't you already have a thread about these monitors?

• 8-bit + FRC is poor man's 10-bit but it's the only 10-bit you'll find at these price points, and it is for all intents and purposes 10-bit.
• 10-bit at 1440p 165Hz requires DP 1.4. Bandwidth over DP 1.2 is insufficient and 10-bit will top out at about 120-144Hz or so.
• VA vs IPS is easy to tell from contrast ratio. AOC advertises it as an IPS screen. I have yet to see an IPS screen reach 2000:1, so anything around 1000:1 should be IPS.
• IPS is not immune to viewing angles...........how do you even tolerate sitting 40cm from a 27" screen?? Darkening corners at that distance is normal.
• Maybe don't go pinching your brand new screen with your fingers in a misguided attempt to tell what display tech it is? lmao

That thread was about comparing monitors (and buy advice). This thread is about verifying that what I bought is the genuine article, since I didn't expect no software can read the monitor specs proper, nor are there known test sites to me

40cm was my normal distance to my old 24" 1080p TN. I used to go as close as 5cm to my 14" CRT back in the day. I only haven't thought of licking the pixels Looking back, I had a lot of imagination compensating for those Mindustry level of graphics. So far the monitor seems to be what I bought, I was alarmed by the different name shown in the software.

They lie about TN changing colors or whatever at an angle, it's only weaker than the IPS in colors, perhaps for being older, had an xl2411t.

I must say however than moving from 1080p to 1440p and 10 years of improvements in monitors shows. I feel like pinching myself not just the screen, can't believe the crisp. Also the size aids in immersion for covering more of my field vision, so when budget video cards will offer a decent refresh rate for 4K, I will go for widescreen

 

[tabascosauz]

That thread was about comparing monitors (and buy advice). This thread is about verifying that what I bought is the genuine article, since I didn't expect no software can read the monitor specs proper, nor are there known test sites to me

40cm was my normal distance to my old 24" 1080p TN. I used to go as close as 5cm to my 14" CRT back in the day. I only haven't thought of licking the pixels Looking back, I had a lot of imagination compensating for those Mindustry level of graphics. So far the monitor seems to be what I bought, I was alarmed by the different name shown in the software.

They lie about TN changing colors or whatever at an angle, it's only weaker than the IPS in colors, perhaps for being older, had an xl2411t.

I must say however than moving from 1080p to 1440p and 10 years of improvements in monitors shows. I feel like pinching myself not just the screen, can't believe the crisp. Also the size aids in immersion for covering more of my field vision, so when budget video cards will offer a decent refresh rate for 4K, I will go for widescreen

They most definitely do not lie about TN's horrendous colour shift. You're just comparing a 24" monitor against 27" - at normal viewing distances TN only starts become really intrusive at 25-27". The most that happens to IPS is a bit of darkening at more pronounced angles. Image quality and colours are not affected.

Placing a 28" TN panel (Asus PB287Q) next to 27" IPS panels (BenQ GW2765HT, Dell S2721DGF) and 32" IPS panel (Gigabyte M32Q), the difference is obvious. One has to sit unreasonably far from the PB287Q to completely prevent yellowing and washout close to the edges. TN sucks, period, and no one misses the fact that it's largely gone from the market.

 

[angry.pidgeon]

They most definitely do not lie about TN's horrendous colour shift. You're just comparing a 24" monitor against 27" - at normal viewing distances TN only starts become really intrusive at 25-27". The most that happens to IPS is a bit of darkening at more pronounced angles. Image quality and colours are not affected.

Placing a 28" TN panel (Asus PB287Q) next to 27" IPS panels (BenQ GW2765HT, Dell S2721DGF) and 32" IPS panel (Gigabyte M32Q), the difference is obvious. One has to sit unreasonably far from the PB287Q to completely prevent yellowing and washout close to the edges. TN sucks, period, and no one misses the fact that it's largely gone from the market.

I feel a bit nostalgic about my xl2411t (perhaps the only outstanding BenQ monitor, as its support and software sucks). It just looks a bit more washed out (without fiddling with color settings) which is not a big concern as I always toned down colors/brightness/contrast. The 8bit to 10bit difference is also very difficult to notice, unless looking intentionally (seen youtube comparison). Usually the differences are noticeable when it looks bad else almost nobody cares

I can confirm I looked from a 130+? degrees angle at that TN, and it only looked slightly darker than the IPS without losing the image or colors, and of course nobody looks from that angle at a 24" TN. The problems I heard about with TN seem to pertain to laptop screens, not this desktop (I also have an old 2008 laptop so I know in that case it's true for angles outside 110 or something).

The reasons I upgraded are:
1. crisper higher frequency 120>165 (because modern video cards don't put out dual dvi, case in which xl2411t supports 144Hz, and had to use an dp to dvi adapter for 120Hz)
2. crisper higher resolution
3. better coloring supposedly

I was laughing yesterday while watching Predator (1987) (I ran out of good modern movies) because the IPS color setting was making the skinned corpses red color look like carnival pinatas, standing out so much it looked fake as hell. Also predator's scan mode red looked pink. I'm set on "game HDR", perhaps that's why, should've switched to a movie setting, picture HDR or something, however I can't find AOC software that works so far and this monitor has the weirdest buttons ever. Software from AOC site failed half install on Windows 11

Have to fiddle with color settings. Predator was not suppose to be a comedy (that is before Arnold became a stereotype)

ClickMonitorDDC is a jewel software. It detected (in tooltip) that Q27G2S/EU is a model of Q27G2G3R3B, so I believe I got what I paid for. I used ClickMonitorDDC to reset xl2411t screen notifications of "bad cable" from my dp to dvi adaptor which otherwise worked fine, and is the only software I found that could