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Radeon HD 5970 Offers Massive Overclocking Headroom

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That multipoint fan control thingy sounds interesting.

Will this be released at the same time as Cat's 9.11?
Btarunr said NDA lifts on the 19th, so I assume the card will be available around then as well at the new drivers.
 
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All I gotta say is.....availability. Check the current 58xx series...newegg has none of them in stock, its a shame. I could only wonder how many of these cards will be distributed to retailers and e-tailers. Probably not much, just so they can get a rise in demand so they can justify a price increase because of the lack of competition atm. :shadedshu
 

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What sort of money are we talking about with these things?
 

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The clocks are lower for one reason! POWER:D not everbody needs to play cod4 @ 100000fps. Its good enough to play any game at any res, but if you need more its ready to roll hard @1ghz.
 
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I give it to ATI, this exceeds my expectations of them :toast:
You're the first person that came to mind when I saw this thread. :p
 
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hey whats the 295 looking like so small down there, now this is what i call fair no longer a single gpu against a duel gpu, nows its a duel gpu against a duel gpu, apples to apples baba! WHAT WHAT, where you at. lol and i dont care if its next gen! lol, im buying one of these, as soon as they come out

i like on the graph for the hawx test for the nvidia bar it just says FAIL! lol that made me laugh
 

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This is just a bad ass card with an awesome stock cooler. FINALLY!
 

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You're the first person that came to mind when I saw this thread. :p
I'm not unreasonable when all the pieces are laid out on the table.
 

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Ive been waiting for weeks for 3-5870's to come available somewhere. Maybe 2-5970's would be a better way to go......
 
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is anyone else noticing the 5870 CF kicking the crap out of the 5890 in the bottom graphs? Thing better OC... otherwise it would get eaten alive by the dual card setups.
 
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Yeah, I assume that clocking the core and memory up higher will also increase the power drawn. Since they had a target limit (say 300), they set it to the nearest "nice" number below there. So, while it may very well run faster (maybe even at acceptable temperatures), it is up to the user to draw the extra power to achieve it.

is anyone else noticing the 5870 CF kicking the crap out of the 5890 in the bottom graphs?
Higher stock clocks + finished drivers on 5870s. We'll see. Although in the end, I'd expect to see the 5970 (I assume you meant that and not 5890) perform in between 2x5850, and 2x5870.
 
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Yeah, I assume that clocking the core and memory up higher will also increase the power drawn. Since they had a target limit (say 300), they set it to the nearest "nice" number below there. So, while it may very well run faster (maybe even at acceptable temperatures), it is up to the user to draw the extra power to achieve it.



Higher stock clocks + finished drivers on 5870s. We'll see. Although in the end, I'd expect to see the 5970 (I assume you meant that and not 5890) perform in between 2x5850, and 2x5870.
yeah I meant 5970 lol... Im wondering if they are touting the OC performance beacause of the super low stock clocks. It has that "marketing" smell to it...

Still an amazing card though. Just in time for the Christmas rush too.
 

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I been figuring this all along, I mean they are 5870 cores, I would assume they arent binned down, once water blocks are on these, they should clock no different than a 5870.
 

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Wow, if all of the 5970's OC to 1Ghz core and 5Ghz memory then i might consider switching over back to ATI, but i really doubt they can pull this off.. still hoping though..
 
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Wow, if all of the 5970's OC to 1Ghz core and 5Ghz memory then i might consider switching over back to ATI, but i really doubt they can pull this off.. still hoping though..
They didn't say the cards WOULD clock that high they simply allowed catalyst software to allow overclocking that high.
 
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#42
I will believe it when I see it.

1 x 8 pin = 150 watts
1 x 6 pin = 75 watts
PCI-e power = 75 watts

300 watts total and max power usage at stock clocks is 294 watts. So where are the extra watts coming from to overclock this thing? There is a reason that they downclocked it to only 5850 speeds.
 

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WOW, just wow i'm really speechless right now
 
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#44
I think the slower clocks are because of 1; power draw and 2; that's all they need to beat the 295. This then leaves lots of room for consumer and, probably more importantly, partner overclocking.

A question for those who know these things... With an 8+6 pin connectors would that be enough to supply 1.3v to each GPU? Just thinking about the ASUS voltage tweek cards and reading that 1.3v is about the practical limit. Or should someone who seriously wants to OC this card wait until someone comes out with one that has 8+8 pin connectors?
 
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Looks like they went high end with the cooler this time.

Giant vapor chamber FTW.
 
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#46
All I gotta say is.....availability. Check the current 58xx series...newegg has none of them in stock, its a shame. I could only wonder how many of these cards will be distributed to retailers and e-tailers. Probably not much, just so they can get a rise in demand so they can justify a price increase because of the lack of competition atm. :shadedshu
I really doubt that. ATi would want these cards to flood the market whilst nVidia is still without a DX11 competitor. The lack of availability is undoubtedly a result of the sheer demand. I don't think even ATi expected the market to go this much in their favour and didn't quite manage the stocks they needed. Let's hope ATi keeps giving the people what they want, and quicker if at all possible.:)
You're the first person that came to mind when I saw this thread. :p
+1

If ATi has released cards on this level now, and the rumors of them holding GT300 killers (5790s, 5890s & 5990s) in hand are true, waiting for their nVidia, in order to counter-launch, those must be just beyond words!:rockout:
Just yesterday there were celebrations about the first GPU with TeraFLOP performance, now we're already at 5!:eek:
 

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#47
I will believe it when I see it.

1 x 8 pin = 150 watts
1 x 6 pin = 75 watts
PCI-e power = 75 watts

300 watts total and max power usage at stock clocks is 294 watts. So where are the extra watts coming from to overclock this thing? There is a reason that they downclocked it to only 5850 speeds.
those numbers are no hard limit.. given a decent psu (any) you can easily overdraw the external power connectors without any harm. 150w from a single 6 pin is no problem.
if an intel cpu is specced to 3 ghz and you can run it at 4.5g you dont ask "where do the mhz come from?"
 

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#48
This is the best news about the 5970 yet, still waiting on price....

While OC headroom does seem gimmicky, its good to know for the enthusiasts out there (me :))

also good to know solidly from ATi themselves 5870CF is decently superior as of yet, and god I hope they drop prices on the 58's to release this at $499, that would MAKE MY DAY.
 

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#49
This is begging for a danger den water block!!!

Gonna be mega fast! Anyone know uk prices yet?