Realizing my childhood dream [LGA775 / Nvidia SLI]

[Dinnercore]

But can you a least NOT get a 10Y old PSU though ?
It would be a shame if PSU died and took something with it

Worry not:

I´m trying to make up my mind about the PSU I put in there. This will be a new part, because getting a PSU from 2008 is a bit ridiculous.

[...]

I need some quality part for this. Really like the 1600W Supernova from EVGA I have in my threadripper 4 work build, but that thing is a bit to expensive I´m afraid.

 

[coonbro]

just check for any molex connectors your old stuff needs and the new psu has any or you may need adaptors . last one I got had all connectors I needed fpr old and new hardware . most new psu's are for the latest stuff in there plugs


should be able to sli the 260's off this

1 x 24 Pin ATX
2 x 8pin(4+4) EPS (CPU)
6 x 8pin(6+2)PCIE
9 x SATA
6 x Four-Pin Peripheral
2 x Floppy
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438133

300w max draw cards
https://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-295/specifications

300wx2=600w/12v = 50amps for them casrd at nvidias max draw

a true 850w psu is 70 amps on the 12v I'm sure the rest of the build aint using 20 amps a intel 80w cpu is just like 7 amps [6.6] at max [watts /volts [12] = amps ]

[opinion]

 

[OldGuy]

This is my system is:

Asus e3559 Rampage Formula Motherboard – Bios ver. 1001
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 Processor 3.0 GHz 12 MB Cache Socket LGA775
4 each Kingston 2GB 800MHz DDR2 Non-ECC CL6 DIMM
2 each Samsung 850 PRO - 512GB - 2.5-Inch SATA III Internal SSD
Creative SB X-Fi – sound card
Acoustic Research powered speakers (very old but very good)
NVidia GeForce GTX 1070 Founders Edition video card with 397.64 64bit video driver
EVGA SuperNova 650 G1+ fully modular power supply
Dell P4317Q 43” Monitor running DP 3840 x 2160 x 60HZ
Windows 10 Pro Version 1803 64bit
Apevia X-Cruiser case
All fans are Arctic Fluid Dynamic Bearing type of various sizes

Back in 2016 we had a power failure that ate my hard drives. I didn’t really lose any data as I had everything backed up. So I decided to rebuild my system with some newer hardware. I don’t play games and I don’t overclock even though I could. I was looking more for reliability. I was running Windows XP when it died and since it was becoming more difficult to maintain the system and software, I switched to Windows 10 BUT I installed Classic Shell to give it that XP look and feel. I turned off as many auto updates as Windows 10 would allow and set most things to ask permission before changes are made.

My original hardware update included a NVIDIA Quadro K2000 2GB GDDR5 Graphics card. It worked OK but the card memory was a little weak for me so I recently switched to the GTX 1070.

The only problem I have had was not of my making. Nvidia after version 397.54 did something that caused all subsequent versions of the driver to fail. It has to do with the Core2 Quad. They are up to 399.07 and it still fails. They are aware of the problem but it does not seem to be high on their priority list to fix.

Don’t know if this helps. It is what I did and it works fine.

 

[Dinnercore]

I got some RAM:

And just like @agent_x007 said it´s gonna be a PITA to fit these all together. The slots on the board do have a little bit of space between them, instead of touching each other like on other boards, but it´s not enough. I might get all in with force, but this will propably break the mobo over time. It just needs 0.75mm more spacing to fit perfect without a struggle. That is like 0.35mm off from both coolers and it would be fine. And it´s not the top part, those fins can interleave. Maybe I will try to mod it, maybe I will just remove 2 heatsinks and put ones from Geil on instead (got some of those off of 512mb DDR2 catching dust).

And I can still return those, got a sweet deal from a dealer that offers 30 day return and a one year warranty.


@coonbro : Thanks for the suggestion, I can get this one with some % off here in my country for 115€ at best, that is about 132$. My CPU will more likely be more then 120W, but I will see. Pricing on some parts is insane here, the 850W EVGA PSU model G2 is 175€ =~200$. I´d rather get the full 1600W Titanium then, since that is 'just' 400$ atm.

 

[coonbro]

lol.. I remember the sticks,,, thing is will they fit under your cpu coolers in the closest slot ? seemed my buddy had that style . they worked but only in slot 2-4 slot 1 would not fit with the cpu cooler he had . same issue using them corsair ''afro pick '' sinks on there memory

I use these in my 2 legacy builds
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=2120

3ed under the 2 corsairs in the ddr2 chart

http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2190&page=5

 

[Dinnercore]

A little progress on the parts list:

Mod material will arrive later from china. If this runs on my board I will be happy, if not I also have a Q9650 inbound.
Additional to that I got a spare I/O-Shield for the mainboard, since the original was missing.

 

[coonbro]

keep us posted on that mod job. I hope it will work good.

in that delidded link was your board listed in there page 8 tested mobo's - xfx - 780i - Xeon Compatibility -- ''Probably all''

https://www.delidded.com/lga-771-to-775-adapter/3/#xfx

 

[Dinnercore]

More parts coming in:

2x GTX295 from EVGA, one sticker says super clocked, another one talks about ULTRA clocked, I guess this means it runs a tiny % faster then standard version.

I got really curious about that sticker from Fujitsu and found out that they must be from one of those things:
https://sp.ts.fujitsu.com/dmsp/Publications/public/ds-CELSIUS-ULTRA.pdf

Very cool. And I may have gotten super duper lucky with those, the owner claimed they have not even ran multiple months but only weeks since he was to busy with his job at the time. The fins of the cooler and the fan itself look very clean, and the plastic lids of the outer GPU cover are all intact still, which makes me believe it was really not taken apart much. Other 295s I worked with so far looked FAR worse.

Another thing that brings tears of joy to the child in me, those I/O brackets in tempering colors look so sexy. I will propably never really notice that again after the build, but still.

And finally I settled on the overkill PSU, it went into sale since last time and I could no longer resist. Got a matching sleeved cable set too.

Now the only thing left besides DVD drive / HDD / small stuff, is the hardest thing to acquire. Waterblocks for those GPUs. I currently may have someone who can find one if I´m lucky. If it turns out to be dual pcb, that would be a shame but no problem since I got another 295 on dual pcb spare. However it is nearly impossible to find offers, last one I found was 3 months ago. They are usually not expensive (~40€), but rare.

 

[coonbro]

I don't look at it as overkill better to get too much then find you did not get enough. that PSU should last you a long tgime and build after build with power requirements well covered as you go

https://www.evga.com/articles/00494/

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130504

i'll assume 1295 '' AR or ER'' that AR = America and ER = euro market cards?


ya in SLI the will run to the lower card specs and that like you say is slight anyway or overclock them to even rates

what about the xeon mod stuff any luck there ?

 

[Dinnercore]

I don't look at it as overkill better to get too much then find you did not get enough. that PSU should last you a long tgime and build after build with power requirements well covered as you go

https://www.evga.com/articles/00494/

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130504

i'll assume 1295 '' AR or ER'' that AR = America and ER = euro market cards?


ya in SLI the will run to the lower card specs and that like you say is slight anyway or overclock them to even rates

what about the xeon mod stuff any luck there ?

Must be the european market part, I guess it´s for the warranty or sth. A german price comparison platform still listed this card and it says 3 years here instead of the 10 that EVGA offered.
I wonder however if the Fujitsu sticker means anything, did they OC the system further and bin the cards above the advertised speed or did they just throw it on there to brand it for them. We will see when I got it together.

As for the mod, I did not have the time yet to try it out. Really busy working 2 jobs during semester break to afford these things and get parts for my car to fix it. Got many things going at once, and I still need storage for the build. I could just pull an existing drive from my daily system, but that would mean even more time spend moving data around and I will rather wait for the boot drive to arrive.

 

[coonbro]

the Fujitsu sticker means anything

on the vid cards ? maybe evga cards made for OEM use on there computers or as for upgrade options ? you see that with like HP's and dell's . evga makes a line of cards just for best buy stores as well under a best buy part number not listed under evga line up at there site as retail cards . thing I would wonder about is what is the cards bios from ? is it a true consumer bios or one for Fujitsu branding and usage ? like for a dell a aftermarket card may not work plug and play but a dell branded card will . I don't know 100% but have seen that issue a lot

all you can do is get it up and running and see if the cards post as normal or not . if they do you should be OK . + you bought used and old so there still the risk of a non working card / buyer beware deal on used parts [???]

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3423300/bought-evga-1080-card-buy.html

https://forums.evga.com/Beware-EVGA-board-partner-Best-Buy-m2412444.aspx


heres another thing I see

looking at the pci-e slot blade just above the golden fingers it don't say ''EVGA or NVIDIA '' printed on the PCB back then like they do now

example

looking at these cards from evga asus - msi seems just putting there name / logos on them was all the difference between them

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/ca-asus-gtx-295-evga-gtx-295-co-op.113566/


thing is if there good working cards when you go to use them your fine and should work well in a sli set up as intended to do


heres a review showing the evga 295 cards in that Fujitsu rig

https://www.trustedreviews.com/revi...jitsu-celsius-ultra-gaming-workstation-page-4

you'll be fine if the cards were not a used e-bay rip off deal

 

[king of swag187]

SUPER-ULTRA-DOUBLE-VERYFAST-OVERCLOCKED-CLOCKED Edition GTX 295
Now at a NCIX near you

 

[Dinnercore]

SUPER-ULTRA-DOUBLE-VERYFAST-OVERCLOCKED-CLOCKED Edition GTX 295
Now at a NCIX near you

Sounds like a gun in Borderlands

 

[coonbro]

''As for the mod, I did not have the time yet to try it out. Really busy working 2 jobs during semester break to afford these things and get parts for my car to fix it. Got many things going at once, and I still need storage for the build''

don't need storage to get up and running

get a live dvd of Linux to boot and to play around with and run it off of to see or test as you go . I keep one or 2 handy no harddrive needed detects my internet and all for near full OS use

You can download the Linux Mint operating system for free. It comes as an ISO file
which you need to burn to a blank DVD. The liveDVD is then bootable and provides a
fully-functional operating system which you can try without affecting your PC. In
layman's terms, when you put Linux Mint on a DVD and place it into your computer, you
can try it out while leaving your current system intact.

no harddrive needed [also casn do this with a pen drive as well [look at pen drive Linux and all for that ]]

https://www.pendrivelinux.com/


live dvd is a little less involved to make and use is all my buddy likes pthe pen drive way I like the dvd results are the same in the end between them

get the iso for 32 bit or 64 bit what ever your cpu supports

 

[king of swag187]

But he still needs a flash drive, and what's the point of booting a live image, or Linux at all? This isn't supposed to be functional, but fasionable, though I do see where you're coming from. It's just that I doubt he would boot Linux in his dream build, or that it would let him do anything besides web browsing. As well, @Dinnercore just try and get a cheap 64GB SSD or 160GB HDD

 

[coonbro]

first off why would you not use Linux that rig may do better on it theen windows anyway then windows support will be old or may not get anything as in the latest ?? 2ed he don't need storage / harddrive so he don't have a ''flash drive' use a dvd how hard is that a legacy build without a optical drive ? a pen drive is pretty cheap now anyway , what 5 bucks for one for this ? a small 2gb will do
https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Cruz...d=1538168726&sr=8-3&keywords=sandisk+pendrive

with Linux he could be running and testing his hardware out today to see if its all working and go online for something to do , not waiting for windows $$ and a harddrive to put it on $$$.

that's just in my opinion and I'm running wile I wait on that windows and hard drive not wishing I was ....lol...

 

[E-curbi]

No I want my childhood dream pc, and that involves the GPUs from that era being used in real work conditions. I will tame the cards if I have to. Gave my current 295 a refresh, see this thread. Compared to other cards, that 68°C is not to bad for air cooling a system that eats 300+ W.
And with water it should be better. Any card can degrade over time or cook a solder joint. Depends more on how much it was used and how it was used before I got it. It´s a bit like a lottery. And I had my share of experience with the wonky SLI-Support from that time. You need very specific driver versions. And it never was a perfect solution I know, but it is exactly what I want.

Very cool build

I appreciate your theme very much. In college, I had zero money but wanted to experience all the amazing high performance hardware at the time. Told myself one day - one day I'm gonna get there and grab all the super-low latency ultra-efficient components and build my dream work computer. I might even build two!

Have a couple sticks of the classic Corsair Dominator GT with the super tall heatsinks in red and black 2133MHz 9latency you can have for this build.

Oh wait, will it work?

 

[Dinnercore]

Very cool build

I appreciate your theme very much. In college, I had zero money but wanted to experience all the amazing high performance hardware at the time. Told myself one day - one day I'm gonna get there and grab all the super-low latency ultra-efficient components and build my dream work computer. I might even build two!

Have a couple sticks of the classic Corsair Dominator GT with the super tall heatsinks in red and black 2133MHz 9latency you can have for this build.

Oh wait, will it work?

That is a very kind offer, thank you!

But I need DDR2 RAM, and I now already got some for the build, see this post.

I will make another update on everything next week, currently work has got me occupied a lot and I find little time for everything I got going on right now. Like my main PC might have a weird issue I´m looking into, I got a 9800 GX2 card lying on my desk waiting to be finished etc..
Hope you all don´t mind if this project will take a while.

 

[Dinnercore]

Alright I think I´ll have to put this on hold until I figure out how to watercool the 295s.

It seems absolutly impossible to find waterblocks for these. I´ve got several adverts going on different sites offering 120€ per block but for months now no one has showed up. Maybe I need to increase the price offer but at that price point I would rather make something completly custom and new.
One guy mailed me that he just threw his old blocks aways since no one wanted them Only thing he could offer me were 480s.

Someone else said he might have one but told me it might take a while for him to get it, haven´t heard any news from him for nearly two months now either.

This is really bothering me. I have my mind set on these 295s, those had been my holy grail back in the day.

 

[mouacyk]

I know it's your childhood dream, and not mine, but I'd still recommend the X5470 over the X5482 if you decide to go XEON.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I know it's your childhood dream, and not mine, but I'd still recommend the X5470 over the X5482 if you decide to go XEON.

He's already got the chip he's going to use.

 

[coonbro]

don't know why a water cooler is stopping you ? its not like you could add it in at a later date if one was to be found [then your hoping for 2 of them ] ? your dream should work as good on air and be enjoying it over collecting dust wishing for a water cooler to pop up .

don't for get you doing a obsolete build to start with . and things can be just found after a guy cleans out a junk box and posts it on e-bay if not just chunked in there trash can anyway to start with

 

[Mr.Scott]

http://www.vgastore.com/1001875/bfg...MI17Dl7pLe3gIVCAVpCh10dQCIEAkYASABEgJ11PD_BwE

 

[coonbro]

http://www.vgastore.com/1001875/bfg...MI17Dl7pLe3gIVCAVpCh10dQCIEAkYASABEgJ11PD_BwE

OUCH!! they see ya coming at that price ...lol...

makes running on stock air look real good to me .

 

[Mr.Scott]

Unusual and rare drives the price up. I'm not surprised at all.
I do agree with you though. I wouldn't pay that. Air is free.