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Report: Rage Runs Faster on 360, Carmack Confirms

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I can't wait to hear all the excuses for this.

Report: Rage Runs Faster on 360, Carmack Confirms

Edge magazine has found that the Xbox 360 version of id Software's shooter Rage matches the PC target of 60 frames-per-second, while the PlayStation 3 currently only manages to run the game at 20-30 FPS, a discrepancy that id's John Carmack does not deny.
"The PS3 lags a little bit behind in terms of getting the performance out of it," said Carmack in the latest issue of Edge according to CVG. "The rasteriser is just a little bit slower--no two ways about that."

Added the 'Mack: "The RSX is slower than what we have in the 360. The CPU is about the same, but the 360 makes it easier to split things off, and that's what a lot of the work has been, splitting it all into jobs on the PS3."
It is unknown whether PlayStation 3 performance will improve significantly before the game ships. There is still plenty of time for Carmack to work his optimization magic: Rage currently has no release date, and is expected to arrive in 2010 at the earliest.
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Isn't Rage based on OpenGL? Maybe it's because of the new ATi optimizations? Or if Carmack didn't make use of the Cell processor?

I'll be getting it for PC anyway. :p
 
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Meh, I love my PS3, but even I know the CPU on the 360 is better. It's a proper multi-core chip. The PS3 is just a single core with a load of Logic Units tacked on. It may be great at folding, but I'd rather have a true Tri-core.
 
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Meh, I love my PS3, but even I know the CPU on the 360 is better. It's a proper multi-core chip. The PS3 is just a single core with a load of Logic Units tacked on. It may be great at folding, but I'd rather have a true Tri-core.
He said the CPU is about the same in power as the 360. Its the GPU thats lacking.

Or if Carmack didn't make use of the Cell processor?
Carmack? Are you serious? The Godfather of the FPS? Creator of Wolf 3D, Doom, Quake? HE couldn't make use of the PS3 hardware to the point it has HALF the frame rate of a PC?
 
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HookeyStreet I knew you would like that :laugh: Just keep in mind the bench they are trying to reach is the PC minimum requirements ;)
lol I had to say something like that m8 :) I was going to write "well, what do you expect from the superior console!" but thought that would be taking it too far :roll:

TBH, Id never heard of the game until you just mentioned it.......now I cant f*cking wait to play it because its done by the DOOM guys :rockout:
 
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I hope PC version wont suffer from such things.
But knowing who is making this, i shouldnt worry.
 
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lol I had to say something like that m8 :) I was going to write "well, what do you expect from the superior console!" but thought that would be taking it too far :roll:

TBH, Id never heard of the game until you just mentioned it.......now I cant f*cking wait to play it because its done by the DOOM guys :rockout:
You need to pay closer attention to my threads man. I announced this months ago with screens!

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Hope the PC version isn't trash. And i hope its optimized and the controls aren't dumbed down.

They seriously should just make it 360 only, thats really the version they care about most since the beginning and is first priority to them, they could careless about the rest.

Might as well make it a really good 360 game then make it crappy ports to PS3 and PC.
 
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Hope the PC version isn't trash. And i hope its optimized and the controls aren't dumbed down.

They seriously should just make it 360 only, thats really the version they care about most since the beginning and is first priority to them, they could careless about the rest.

Might as well make it a really good 360 game then make it crappy ports to PS3 and PC.
Was that a troll CDdude55? That was unlike you man.
 

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Was that a troll CDdude55? That was unlike you man.
:laugh:, I wrote the top sentence and my brother wrote the rest.

I do hope its great for PC, i can't afford to have another shitty 360 die on me again.:shadedshu
 
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:laugh:, I wrote the top sentence and my brother wrote the rest.

I do hope its great for PC, i can't afford to have another shitty 360 die on me again.:shadedshu
I was going to say man. That just didn't sound like you at all. Tell your brother who Carmack is and the chances of the PC version being shitty. ;)
 

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I read the story this morning. The engine isn't done, basically it just comes down to the PS3 being harder to program for and work on PC/360 being further along. I'm pretty sure it'll run fine once it gets released. Either by optimizing the code or lowering IQ, or both of course.
 
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I read the story this morning. The engine isn't done, basically it just comes down to the PS3 being harder to program for and work on PC/360 being further along. I'm pretty sure it'll run fine once it gets released. Either by optimizing the code or lowering IQ, or both of course.
Well its in good hands thats for sure. If anyone can make it happen its Carmack.
 

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thanx for the info ;)






Yeah, if the PC version of this doesnt rock I will eat my own head :D
There is a really long trailer for it also. If you cant find let me know it and Ill send it to ya.
 

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another great news post! very nice work:toast:
 
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I can't wait to hear all the excuses for this.



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just another reason I'm glad I saved money when i decided on the 360 over the Ps3. It was a hard choice without blue-ray, but I still don't use Blue-ray since I also bought a Panasonic Vivera which lets me wacth movies I have bought Via digital HD copy, and I rent on the 360 or from Dish in HD, which to me makes the blue-ray obsolete
 
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Hm now the hard part getting it on 2-3 dvd's or one blu ray

i'd probably go for the Dvd's i hope they let you install the game on the hard drive so you only need one disk.

i'll wait until it comes out to see the final out come cause this issue of Game informer he says that the textures and what not are better on the ps3 and they have more "head way" on the ps3.

very confused right now
 
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I'd get it for the X360, but I currently have hatred for Xbox Live and Games for Windows LIVE, mostly because of their ToS, location limitation, and that Microsoft's customer service for LIVE is complete :mad::mad::mad::mad:.
 

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Well its in good hands thats for sure. If anyone can make it happen its Carmack.
Everyone has their favorites. Carmack, coming from PC development and transitioning to Xbox360, is going to naturally have more love for the Xbox360 than the PS3. Not very many developers do like the PS3 from what I'm hearing.

In any case, I wouldn't judge until the product hits the shelves. There might be some bugs in the PS3 code that need to be worked out.
 
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PS3 GPU derived from 7900 that does not have unified shaders DX9
XBOX360 GPU similar to HD2900 with unified shaders and DX9+
XBOX360 has less powerful cpu but much easier to optimize code for it. Yes PS3 has more cores but the are incomplete cores and hard to develop software for it. And as we all know games are not that CPU dependent.
Memory PS3 has 256 RAM + 256 VRAM XBOX has 512 it could be split depending from the situation so it is more flexible.

As you can see I`m not surprised at all. Sony are saying that in time PS3 games will surpass XBOX360 games but in reality PS3 need time to catch XBOX 360. PS3 has inferior hardware that is hard fact. And no propaganda will change that.