RTX 3070 low FPS & Utilization

[Pokkel1982]

Hi all.

My setup first:
AMD 2700x
1x16GB RAM 2666MHz
A320M-K Mobo
700W PSU
RTX 3070 GPU

I recently purchased a 3070 (upgraded from 980, then 2070S tester).

I've been having so many issues with this card, where I had none with the 980 and 2070s.

When playing games, my FPS is way too low. I mainly play Battlefield, but I've seen it with Borderlands, GTA V and F1 2021 as well... Other games do the same.

Please see the pics below. I used BFV as the benchmark, but I mainly play BF 2042, and the FPS is just horrible! Averages between 20 and 70 on 1080p, 4k and any graphics settings. The fps doesn't change no matter the resolution or graphics settings (well maybe with like 5-10%, but is neglectable)... So weird...

I have tried different drivers, from the oldest one BF accepts, to now the latest one. I also used DDU to do the installations properly...

Updated BIOS, VBIOS, enabled resize BAR, played around with HPET, tried different combo's in NVidia Control Panel, Max Performance, etc...

I also tried 32GB ram, and it did not make a big difference. (2x16GB 2666)

I have researched the 2700X RTX 3060 combo, and it shouldn't bottleneck it.

Anybody know why my GPU utilization might be this low? And it's only this low when I start playing on foot...

 

[next3r]

you must check - this or MSI KOMBUSTOR "try full load"
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?attachments/bez-n%C3%A1zvu-png.147904/
<<<for fast test "need see stable CLOCK for CORE / VRAM or POWER"

others is only better setup in ADAPTIVE POWER
NVPANEL - 3d/ game profile / power management - max power
or AFTERBURNER - custom profile "LOCK"

edit
also check PERF CAP REASON or POWER SOURCE - 12V source data
or HWINFO

>> edit
but your screens look like full utilization
try also all setup "updates" for RESIZE BAR ,.,.and WINDOWS GPU SETTING

variable support from windows - disabled
GPU SCHEDULER- disabled

last NVDIA DRIVERS "clean installation" -- DDU for this

Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU) download version 18.1.1.1

Download Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU) Official - Remove AMD/NVIDIA/INTEL Graphics Drivers Cleanly - DDU is a driver removal utility that helps you completely uninstall AMD/NVIDIA graphics card drivers and packages from your system, leaving no leftovers behind, including registry keys...

www.guru3d.com

>>>>>>>>>>>>

https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-3070-GPU-Benchmarks-and-Specs.509228.0.html

some benchmarks for compare

your cpu is also possible problem for combo stress !
MSI KOMBUSTOR -- 3d load + add cpu burner "example" and check FPS drop

 

[Pokkel1982]

you must check - this or MSI KOMBUSTOR "try full load"
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?attachments/bez-n%C3%A1zvu-png.147904/
<<<for fast test "need see stable CLOCK for CORE / VRAM or POWER"

others is only better setup in ADAPTIVE POWER
NVPANEL - 3d/ game profile / power management - max power
or AFTERBURNER - custom profile "LOCK"

edit
also check PERF CAP REASON or POWER SOURCE - 12V source data
or HWINFO

>> edit
but your screens look like full utilization
try also all setup "updates" for RESIZE BAR ,.,.and WINDOWS GPU SETTING

variable support from windows - disabled
GPU SCHEDULER- disabled

last NVDIA DRIVERS "clean installation" -- DDU for this

Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU) download version 18.1.1.1

Download Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU) Official - Remove AMD/NVIDIA/INTEL Graphics Drivers Cleanly - DDU is a driver removal utility that helps you completely uninstall AMD/NVIDIA graphics card drivers and packages from your system, leaving no leftovers behind, including registry keys...

www.guru3d.com

>>>>>>>>>>>>

https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-3070-GPU-Benchmarks-and-Specs.509228.0.html

some benchmarks for compare

your cpu is also possible problem for combo stress !
MSI KOMBUSTOR -- 3d load + add cpu burner "example" and check FPS drop

 

[RsZoli]

i have the same problem, wow dragonflight ptr, absolute minimum graphics settings and i get 67 fps with 9% gpu utilization on full hd

 

[Pokkel1982]

This is with Power Management at Max Performance.

 

[Waldorf]

sorry, but setting power management to max doesn't change anything but preventing downclock on low load.

@Pokkel1982
its probably driver or os related.

in bios, change pcie slot where the gpu is connected to 3.0 manually, chipset/m.2 to 4.0.
i recommend doing proper cleaning, going offline (disconnect ethernet or turn off router), uninstall amd and nv driver and any sw.
reboot to safe mode, clean with ddu for amd/nv, make sure to set option that win does not update driver, reboot, clean again, reboot and leave safe mode, shutdown.
install amd chipset driver (latest from amd site), reboot after its done, shutdown after that, new boot and install Nv driver, select clean install option.

otherwise think about clean installation of OS.

 

[P4-630]

I have researched the 2700X RTX 3060 combo, and it shouldn't bottleneck it.

But you bought an RTX 3070

 

[next3r]

second screen not look bad
,..,utilize RTX fully is possible only when uses more memory

or MSI KOMBUSTOR - MS01 "for CORE" or GL/VK test- 6.5GB for MEM test + any SENSOR "from HWINFO or GPU-Z or OSD"
check also GAMES BENCHMARK LINK above

best use any OSD in GAME ,.,.for determine problem In-game
AFTERBURNER + RIVA SERVER >>> OSD

or RTX trick for old games - is negative OC for memory "profile only for old games",.,.this faster requires a clock increase "increases card usage"
,.try DDU - clean reinstall drivers / OSD in games "for debug directly in-game"

edit
BF 2042 - must be around 114FPS AVG "no RT effect /1080p /or Ultra Preset + Ray Tracing 1920x1080 -90FPS"
example

 

[P4-630]

I'd say that 2700x is also a bottleneck for your RTX 3070.

Check your CPU usage while you game.

 

[next3r]

<<< hwinfo LOG or OSD

edit LOG tutorial
,.,install RIVA server and install HWINFO
RIVA run in background .. now you starts hwinfo + sensor "must exist RTSS tab in SENSOR"
now is possible create LOG in .CSV - send here file from gaming

this contains FPS vs complete system statistic - best for DEBUG or is possible setup OSD "real-time info in games - best for game setup"
,.,.good luck

this must exist RTSS "for FPS compare vs others components"
hwinfo
RIVA

edit
but yes ,,probably CPU hungry games is here problem.

 

[RsZoli]

all right, tell me something about this then:

wow dragonflight ptr, absolute MINIMUM settings, and i get 68 fps with 8% gpu load...

 

[Pokkel1982]

I did all the DDU uninstall thingy's, GPU and CPU in safe mode, with latest drivers, etc...

Please see below screenshots.

BF2042 at lowest settings and at Ultra settings with DLSS on quality, performance, etc, Ray Tracing On/Off... It doesn't matter... Still getting between 25 and 60 FPS on ANY settings...

PerfCap is also weird...

 

[P4-630]

Check your CPU usage.

A 2700x might not cut it with a RTX 3070.....

 

[Pokkel1982]

sorry, but setting power management to max doesn't change anything but preventing downclock on low load.

@Pokkel1982
its probably driver or os related.

in bios, change pcie slot where the gpu is connected to 3.0 manually, chipset/m.2 to 4.0.
i recommend doing proper cleaning, going offline (disconnect ethernet or turn off router), uninstall amd and nv driver and any sw.
reboot to safe mode, clean with ddu for amd/nv, make sure to set option that win does not update driver, reboot, clean again, reboot and leave safe mode, shutdown.
install amd chipset driver (latest from amd site), reboot after its done, shutdown after that, new boot and install Nv driver, select clean install option.

otherwise think about clean installation of OS.

Thanks Fry,

I'll double check the BIOS settings again, but I think I did change all of it up...

I've done all the driver updates/reinstallations properly, but still no magic.

I'm dreading the clean OS installation. Urgh....

Should I just upgrade to Windows 11 or do I need to do a clean install? But I would rather just figure this out...

Check your CPU usage.

A 2700x might not cut it with a RTX 3070.....

CPU usage at around 50-60%, with GPU @ 20-35%

2700x on 3070 bottleneck is around 5%. So it can't be that...

 

[next3r]

it's best to also choose a setting
FPS - variable rate
fps limiter "-3 under monitor rate" + g-sync or free-sync

and your post - Vrel or powr CAP REASON ??
try create LOG from gaming "HWINFO"

 

[Pokkel1982]

second screen not look bad
,..,utilize RTX fully is possible only when uses more memory

or MSI KOMBUSTOR - MS01 "for CORE" or GL/VK test- 6.5GB for MEM test + any SENSOR "from HWINFO or GPU-Z or OSD"
check also GAMES BENCHMARK LINK above

best use any OSD in GAME ,.,.for determine problem In-game
AFTERBURNER + RIVA SERVER >>> OSD

or RTX trick for old games - is negative OC for memory "profile only for old games",.,.this faster requires a clock increase "increases card usage"
,.try DDU - clean reinstall drivers / OSD in games "for debug directly in-game"

edit
BF 2042 - must be around 114FPS AVG "no RT effect /1080p /or Ultra Preset + Ray Tracing 1920x1080 -90FPS"
example

Wow... I'll try this. Thanks,

But I really don't think it's the drivers...

Will HPET changes effect anything? I did some, but it seems to run better with it turned off...

it's best to also choose a setting
FPS - variable rate
fps limiter "-3 under monitor rate" + g-sync or free-sync

and your post - Vrel or powr CAP REASON ??
try create LOG from gaming "HWINFO"

Where and how do I do all of this?

I don't have G-sync or Free-Sync monitor...

I switched off all framerate limiters and v-sync's are also off

 

[GerKNG]

My setup first:
AMD 2700x
1x16GB RAM 2666MHz
A320M-K Mobo
700W PSU
RTX 3070 GPU

you run a 2700x with single channel 2666mb/s ram.
depending on your game i'd be surprised if you reach more than 60-70 FPS CPU bound.
your Battlefield V results are what i expect from this specific setup. (should be go up to around 110-130 FPS with proper dual channel ram at ~3200Mb/s)

 

[Pokkel1982]

you run a 2700x with single channel 2666mb/s ram.
depending on your game i'd be surprised if you reach more than 60-70 FPS CPU bound.
your Battlefield results are what i expect from this specific setup. (should be go up to around 110-130 FPS with proper dual channel ram at ~3200Mb/s)

Here I have 32GB RAM, dual channel, identical...

Same thing... I'm averaging between 50 and 70 now, but it is still waaaaayyyyyyy to low...

So it's not the RAM...

CPU usage not full and GPU usage at 20-40%

sorry, but setting power management to max doesn't change anything but preventing downclock on low load.

@Pokkel1982
its probably driver or os related.

in bios, change pcie slot where the gpu is connected to 3.0 manually, chipset/m.2 to 4.0.
i recommend doing proper cleaning, going offline (disconnect ethernet or turn off router), uninstall amd and nv driver and any sw.
reboot to safe mode, clean with ddu for amd/nv, make sure to set option that win does not update driver, reboot, clean again, reboot and leave safe mode, shutdown.
install amd chipset driver (latest from amd site), reboot after its done, shutdown after that, new boot and install Nv driver, select clean install option.

otherwise think about clean installation of OS.

I tried to change those settings in the BIOS, but I couldn't find them anywhere....

 

[GerKNG]

and now you swapped games to BF 2042. a game that runs at less than half the framerate compared to Battlefield V.

"CPU usage not full"
this is not how a CPU works.

so that's normal as well.

you're in a helicopter flying above the map so your framerate looks exactly as expected. + you have software running and probably not a 100% clean windows installation like in this benchmark.

you run against a wall with a problem that does not exist.

 

[Pokkel1982]

second screen not look bad
,..,utilize RTX fully is possible only when uses more memory

or MSI KOMBUSTOR - MS01 "for CORE" or GL/VK test- 6.5GB for MEM test + any SENSOR "from HWINFO or GPU-Z or OSD"
check also GAMES BENCHMARK LINK above

best use any OSD in GAME ,.,.for determine problem In-game
AFTERBURNER + RIVA SERVER >>> OSD

or RTX trick for old games - is negative OC for memory "profile only for old games",.,.this faster requires a clock increase "increases card usage"
,.try DDU - clean reinstall drivers / OSD in games "for debug directly in-game"

edit
BF 2042 - must be around 114FPS AVG "no RT effect /1080p /or Ultra Preset + Ray Tracing 1920x1080 -90FPS"
example

I've run a furmark test if it helps...

 

[P4-630]

2700x is an older gen CPU, not so great IPC and low clock speeds compared to recent CPU's.

You will see a huge improvement if you had a recent CPU as you can see in the graph posted by GerKNG.

 

[Waldorf]

dont waste your time with all the gpu tools/settings/debug crap.
if this is the same install before swapping hw, i recommend a clean install of the latest 10 build (while offline, incl during driver install), then load ddu to set windows to NOT update drivers automatically.

all that always fixed it when i worked on my/friends rigs with same issues.

use something like truimage or similar (not up to date on those), to backup the OS drive after clean installing os and updates, and after all drivers are installed.
then if something goes wrong, you can restore it back to that same state, instead of having to do a full install.

anything after that will be related to cpu and/or ram holding gpu back.
see that you install 2 identical sticks from a kit, will not do magic, but needed to really make use of it

 

[ixi]

2700x is an older gen CPU, not so great IPC and low clock speeds compared to recent CPU's.

You will see a huge improvement if you had a recent CPU as you can see in the graph posted by GerKNG.

2700x and bottleneck for gpy under 10%, doubt that buddy.

 

[HaKN !]

Its the cpu. if u can , get a 5800X3D chip or something 5000 series

 

[P4-630]

2700x and bottleneck under 10%, doubt that buddy .

But you can read the graph and that's saying enough imo, ok that was a 3090 and OP has a 3070, but I'm sure there's a lot to gain with a more recent CPU.