RTX 4090 & 53 Games: Core i9-13900K vs Ryzen 7 5800X3D

W1zzard · Nov 4, 2022

Intel's new 13900K offers amazing gaming performance, thanks to improvements to caches, IPC and higher operating frequencies. But is that enough to beat the 3DV Cache-powered AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D? What about platform cost?

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potsdaman · Nov 4, 2022

Thanks W1zzard for such comparison and work, very nice to see how AM4 still rock!)))

Taraquin · Nov 4, 2022

5800X3D is hands down the best bang-for-bucks gaming CPU atm considering price of MB and ram

SeventhReign · Nov 4, 2022

Yeah lets compare a CPU that literally no one in their right mind would EVER buy for gaming. EVER. To a CPU that can literally be used for nothing BUT gaming. Thats genius right there fellas. While we're at it I think we should drag race a bicycle vs a Top Fuel Dragster.

Vecix6 · Nov 4, 2022

Nice article its curious to see that Halo Infinite who took 50% more performance thanks to 3DV cache from last article now still goes to the side of Intel Raptor Lake.

Still need to fix a typo in all graphs: "Says Ryzen 7 5800X vs Ryzen 7 5800X3D" I supose they are recicled from latest TPU-50.

zlobby · Nov 4, 2022

Hmm, am I the only one who misses the low end of the FPS? For actual game 'smoothness' lower percentile matters way more than the max FPS number. Great job nonetheless, @W1zzard

P4-630 · Nov 4, 2022

I think you should compare the 5800x3d with a previous gen intel, so maybe with an i7 12700K or wait for 7800x3D and compare that with a 13th gen intel.

gffermari · Nov 4, 2022

The results are as expected.

The big win for the consumers is that whatever you prefer, there is a product to cover you.
You want Intel. 13600K.
You want AMD. 7600X.
You have older AM4 mb: 5800X3D.

Whatever you choose, it's top on the charts. You can't go wrong no matter what.
If only we had the same competition in gpus...

Tek-Check · Nov 4, 2022

gffermari said:
You want AMD. 7600X.

This one is currently a terrible value for buck.

applejuice · Nov 4, 2022

SeventhReign said:
Yeah lets compare a CPU that literally no one in their right mind would EVER buy for gaming. EVER. To a CPU that can literally be used for nothing BUT gaming. Thats genius right there fellas. While we're at it I think we should drag race a bicycle vs a Top Fuel Dragster.

Obvious bait is obvious. 0/13

Vecix6 · Nov 4, 2022

gffermari said:
The results are as expected.

The big win for the consumers is that whatever you prefer, there is a product to cover you.
You want Intel. 13600K.
You want AMD. 7600X.
You have older AM4 mb: 5800X3D.

Whatever you choose, it's top on the charts. You can't go wrong no matter what.
If only we had the same competition in gpus...

Agree 95%, thinking in future I prefer 7700X than 7600X for his number of cores.

gffermari · Nov 4, 2022

Tek-Check said:
This one is currently a terrible value for buck.

The buyer sees the value differently.
Someone prefers the 13600X for the top scores in everything while other could sacrifice the MT performance now in order to get a platform that will last 4-5 years.
Still, both are correct and both win.

Personally I can't decide between a 13600K, 13700K top all arounders and a 7700X with upgrade path to future 3Ds.
I might use a dice....

ratirt · Nov 4, 2022

P4-630 said:
I think you should compare the 5800x3d with a previous gen intel, so maybe with an i7 12700K or wait for 7800x3D and compare that with a 13th gen intel.

Why not this comparison? I think it says a lot. This is the best Intel CPU so why not compare to the best one? It only shows how 13900K considering it's price is expensive for gaming. You'd be better off with 5800x3d.

dir_d · Nov 4, 2022

I have a 5600x at 4k 120hz must not buy 5800x3d... So tempting at $329.

siluro818 · Nov 4, 2022

Now where is that guy who was trying so damn hard to convince everyone that if you're using a 2700X on an AM4 you should just drop everything and buy 13600K + mobo & DDR5 kit because in 10 (!) years it would be great in 4K lmfao

dirtyferret · Nov 4, 2022

@W1zzard do you sleep? Didn't you just finish a similar comparison a few days ago?

Fluffmeister · Nov 4, 2022

dirtyferret said:
@W1zzard do you sleep? Didn't you just finish a similar comparison a few days ago?

German efficiency my friend.

rusTORK · Nov 4, 2022

@W1zzard , typo in Test system:
Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 5800XD, Stock

W1zzard · Nov 4, 2022

Vecix6 said:
Nice article its curious to see that Halo Infinite who took 50% more performance thanks to 3DV cache from last article now still goes to the side of Intel Raptor Lake.

Still need to fix a typo in all graphs: "Says Ryzen 7 5800X vs Ryzen 7 5800X3D" I supose they are recicled from latest TPU-50.

As indicated, only the title is wrong. Benchmarks are correct. I noticed this just today, and can’t fix right now.. in the plane ready to take off

Count Shagula · Nov 4, 2022

The power usage should also be considered when both cpu's have similar performance. You'd be mad to move to raptor lake especially for gaming if your already on AM4 and have a decent motherboard and ram

ZeppMan217 · Nov 4, 2022

Count Shagula said:
The power usage should also be considered when both cpu's have similar performance. You'd be mad to move to raptor lake for gaming if your already on AM4 and have a decent motherboard and ram

Wtf.

jallenlabs · Nov 4, 2022

Thanks for this article, I was waiting for this one. Well done. Im guessing that AMDs 3D upgrade on this generation will crush Intel in gaming. Oh well, my gaming rig is still a 11700k.

Vario · Nov 4, 2022

Nice. Good showing by the 5800X3D and it is now around $330 at a few retailers, keeps falling in price. I think the 7x00X3D will be a long lasting performer.

Garrus · Nov 4, 2022

The most important subset of these 53 games to me, is the one of "low frame rate games". I would like to see the bottom 25 percent of games taken out of the group of 53 (the bottom 13 games in FPS for example), so we can see what difference the CPU is making in games that run slowly. I don't need a CPU upgrade to get from 400 to 600fps. I would like to bring 100 fps titles up to 150fps etc.

Very funny that out of all the games that have large differences at 4k, DMC5 and Civilization 6 are the only ones I play and they are both heavily AMD favored. Upgrading to Intel would slow me down. Intel has to get fixes for those 2 games out! The scheduler is still not working right?

Tek-Check · Nov 4, 2022

gffermari said:
Personally I can't decide between a 13600K, 13700K top all arounders and a 7700X with upgrade path to future 3Ds.
I might use a dice....

Never use a dice. Depends what you need CPU for. Long-term support, go AMD, one-off build for a few year, go i7.

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