RX 480/470/460 Owners Club

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Oculus for the better lenses and the hope they release touch this year lol

I think I'm going to try psvr this year just because of affordability but favoured the vice to be honest has your experience with Oculus been good ie are you happy you went Oculus instead of vice?
Sounds better and more gangster how my phone corrects it but
Vice = Vive

 

[Athlon2K15]

Yes very happy with Oculus. I got a good deal on the setup so i didnt pay retail, It does need more game variety.

 

[dyonoctis]

French/maybe E.U price for the RX 470 are here :
It's basically the same price as the lower cost RX 480 available. Guess we won't get any sub 200 rx 470 for a while...
http://www.materiel.net/carte-graphique/sapphire-radeon-rx-470-nitro-oc-4-go-133264.html
http://www.materiel.net/carte-graphique/sapphire-radeon-rx-470-nitro-oc-8-go-133263.html

 

[AlienIsGOD]

RX 470 pricing in canada, well Canada Computers pricing:
http://www.canadacomputers.com/sear...ords=&manu=0&search=1&ccid=1200&cPath=43_1200

RX 480 pricing:
http://www.canadacomputers.com/sear...ords=&manu=0&search=1&ccid=1200&cPath=43_1200

WTF?!? $10 difference between the 8gb 470 and 8gb 480?!? 470 doesnt make sense at that price. the 4gb model is a bit better priced but im still pissed off at US to CAN $$$ conversion....

 

[uuuaaaaaa]

Well, I planned to get a rx480 nitro+, it just happens that i found a Fury Strix cheaper than a 480 nitro, so yea, It looks like that I won't be on this club afterall!

 

[dyonoctis]

1st review of the 460 are out and I'm confused. At Guru 3d it can beat a gtx 960 on another website it's between a 750ti and a 950 @_@.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_radeon_rx_460_strix_gaming_4gb_review,1.html
http://www.comptoir-hardware.com/articles/cartes-graphiques/32164-test-radeon-rx-460.html?start=4

 

[AlienIsGOD]

1st review of the 460 are out and I'm confused. At Guru 3d it's beating a gtx 960 on another website it's between a 750ti and a 950 @_@.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_radeon_rx_460_strix_gaming_4gb_review,1.html
http://www.comptoir-hardware.com/articles/cartes-graphiques/32164-test-radeon-rx-460.html?start=4

toms has its performance around a R9 270X/370X. not too bad, but for its price thats good performance

 

[dyonoctis]

toms has its performance around a R9 270X/370X. not too bad, but for its price thats good performance

Yhea, my R9 270x does feels really old now. I'm just waiting a few month before buying anything. I might find a good deal once the "new product "effect will be over.

 

[AlienIsGOD]

Yhea, my R9 270x does feels really old now. I'm just waiting a few month before buying anything. I might find a good deal once the "new product "effect will be over.

my r9 270 died and atm my kid is using a 6870. This doesnt make me want to run out and purchase a 460 for his pc considering the performance increase is very limited from a 270. hoping something comes out between a 460 and 470...maybe a 465? or something like a 1050 or 50 Ti.

 

[AlienIsGOD]

noticing a 15-20 FPS improvement in Overwatch on ultra settings with 16.8.1 compared to 16.7.2

 

[AlienIsGOD]

looking into a RX 460 for my kids PC, currently it has a 6870 1GB as the R9 270 died would it be worth it to get the 4GB version? or is 4GB a bit overkill for this card?

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

I've been having a look at saphire trixx and overclocking my Rx480's in crossfire now that I've got Ek full cover blocks on them.
Saphire trixx is quite good with save profiles and ulps disabling are my personal high points.
I've come across a few points worth mentioning since many of guides I've seen for this card are apparently wrong.
Ie don't go straight to max gpu core volts stepping is the way ,I initially maxed core V and power play and hit max clocks of 1360core 8200mem ,any more and 3d apps crashed but with just .60mv added and max power play still I got my gpu cores up to 1400mHz ,it doesn't appear to want to go higher but I am still trying atm ,well I would be if I hadn't got Os corruption somehow while adding another 120 rad.
Ill post some timespy benches when I can in the timespy thread but I've got about 6900 so far max

 

[HD64G]

I've been having a look at saphire trixx and overclocking my Rx480's in crossfire now that I've got Ek full cover blocks on them.
Saphire trixx is quite good with save profiles and ulps disabling are my personal high points.
I've come across a few points worth mentioning since many of guides I've seen for this card are apparently wrong.
Ie don't go straight to max gpu core volts stepping is the way ,I initially maxed core V and power play and hit max clocks of 1360core 8200mem ,any more and 3d apps crashed but with just .60mv added and max power play still I got my gpu cores up to 1400mHz ,it doesn't appear to want to go higher but I am still trying atm ,well I would be if I hadn't got Os corruption somehow while adding another 120 rad.
Ill post some timespy benches when I can in the timespy thread but I've got about 6900 so far max

Nice report, ty! So, your limit is probably the power limit of the board with a 6-pin only from the PSU allowing max 225W. Using a custom bios a guy managed to run a watercooled 480 up to 1470MHz fully stable and bench games on it.

 

[AlienIsGOD]

used Trixx to disable ULPS, it was causing my card not to hit 3d clocks in OverWatch and other games. Disabling put clocks back to 1266 also using the 16.8.2 hotfix as they were the offending driver until the ULPS fix came about

 

[Durvelle27]

Ordered a XFX RX 480 GTR which should be here Wednesday

Stock clocks are 1338MHz/2000MHz

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Nice report, ty! So, your limit is probably the power limit of the board with a 6-pin only from the PSU allowing max 225W. Using a custom bios a guy managed to run a watercooled 480 up to 1470MHz fully stable and bench games on it.

it is looking that way after some further messing i got 7300 timespy score at 1400 clocks , i can push upto but never beyond 1420 so anyone about with the bios mentioned above pls pm me that bios im desperate for moar and would appreciate the messing headroom.

about the timespy score,, these cards at 1400 core and 8800 mem dependant on what i set core volts at (powersliders fixed at 50) gets between 6500 and 7300 due largely to being on the edge of its defined power limit so if you hone the voltage ,it stays at top clocks more, my temps are not exceeding 50 on the cores and 75 on the cards Vrms so im sure temp is not getting involved with my downclocking.

all using saphire trixx which does not push every core frequency step to max like some do with wattman, ie it still does drop clocks , i could have tried forcing 1400 8800 in wattman but my guestimation is that if i stop it downclocking and it hits its power limit but cant scale down it will just error more and C2d and ive completed more high clock benches usint trixx then wattman.

 

[buildzoid]

You can get high power/voltage BIOSs for the 480 here: http://forum.hwbot.org/showpost.php?p=453534&postcount=11

The LN2 BIOS is really only for LN2 use as it disable power states and temperature sensing. It also screws with the RX 480's current sense to get you a 300-450W power limit. Which the card should be able to handle but it's certainly not safe for daily use.

The Air BIOS raises the stock power limit from 110W to 150W and with +50% you can get 225W to the GPU core. With GPU tweak II you will be able to set up to 1.4V on the core with that BIOS however above 1.3V you will be constantly hitting the power limit.

It is possible to make your own custom BIOSs for RX 480s without too much difficulty however you will need a modded driver to get the BIOS to work.



I have an 8GB RX 480 ref card and I might be getting a chance to play with the ASUS Strix as well as the XFX GTR in a month or two.
Here's my card in my system:

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The EKWB supremacy universal VGA block fits with the base plate still on the card so you don't have to worry about cooling the RAM and VRMs:

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The best OC I got with this cooling that was actually pretty stable was 1480/8900mhz but it wasn't 100%. I haven't tried stabilizing the card since because it took some damage during an LN2 session. Here's a screenshot of the 1480 core clock:

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I also had the card on LN2:

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I was not very successful with my LN2 session because the card has a black screen issues at LN2 temps. However I am working on a fix for that and once I have LN2 available I will try again. This time hopefully hitting 1800mhz on the core.

 

[Durvelle27]

You can get high power/voltage BIOSs for the 480 here: http://forum.hwbot.org/showpost.php?p=453534&postcount=11

The LN2 BIOS is really only for LN2 use as it disable power states and temperature sensing. It also screws with the RX 480's current sense to get you a 300-450W power limit. Which the card should be able to handle but it's certainly not safe for daily use.

The Air BIOS raises the stock power limit from 110W to 150W and with +50% you can get 225W to the GPU core. With GPU tweak II you will be able to set up to 1.4V on the core with that BIOS however above 1.3V you will be constantly hitting the power limit.

It is possible to make your own custom BIOSs for RX 480s without too much difficulty however you will need a modded driver to get the BIOS to work.



I have an 8GB RX 480 ref card and I might be getting a chance to play with the ASUS Strix as well as the XFX GTR in a month or two.
Here's my card in my system:

Spoiler

The EKWB supremacy universal VGA block fits with the base plate still on the card so you don't have to worry about cooling the RAM and VRMs:

Spoiler

The best OC I got with this cooling that was actually pretty stable was 1480/8900mhz but it wasn't 100%. I haven't tried stabilizing the card since because it took some damage during an LN2 session. Here's a screenshot of the 1480 core clock:

Spoiler

I also had the card on LN2:

Spoiler

I was not very successful with my LN2 session because the card has a black screen issues at LN2 temps. However I am working on a fix for that and once I have LN2 available I will try again. This time hopefully hitting 1800mhz on the core.

So does the cards with 8 Pin connectors have power limitations

 

[buildzoid]

So does the cards with 8 Pin connectors have power limitations

Is that a question or a statement?

 

[Durvelle27]

Is that a question or a statement?

Sorry i was asking

 

[buildzoid]

Sorry i was asking

I haven't used any of the 8 pin cards. So I have no idea.

 

[Durvelle27]

I haven't used any of the 8 pin cards. So I have no idea.

I'm hoping i can get above 1400 on Air. Stock is 1338 so i guess that's a good sign

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

I'm hoping i can get above 1400 on Air. Stock is 1338 so i guess that's a good sign

They will all have limits set in bios with regards to power draw limit it will naturally be higher (or should be) on a Aib 8 pin card ,these are complex chips and power temp and tdp are all set limits to work within or flex.

 

[Durvelle27]

They will all have limits set in bios with regards to power draw limit it will naturally be higher (or should be) on a Aib 8 pin card ,these are complex chips and power temp and tdp are all set limits to work within or flex.

I was looking at flashing with the unlocked BIOs i saw to increase the power limit

 

[buildzoid]

I was looking at flashing with the unlocked BIOs i saw to increase the power limit

I suspect that the high power BIOS I linked will work on most if not all RX 480s. The ref card only has software control over the IR3567B and all the custom cards also use this chip and shouldn't be using any smart for the minor voltages so in theory Elmor's air and LN2 BIOS should work on everything.