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sapphire x800se help!!!

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Dudes can ya flash this card to a x800pro or xt, and unlock all pipes!!!!
 

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I have been asking this same question on this forum, no real reply yet, I was gonna try it once I get a better cooling solution(somtime next week) I will let you know how I get on.

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From what I know, all Se cards can get softmodded or flashed to to Pro. Correct me if i'm wrong, but your card can only be flashed if it has the right type of core as the version you want to flash your card to. I.e 9800Pro (R350) cannot be flashed to 9800XT (R360) because they use different cores. Sorry, I don't have much knowledge about X800 cards.
 

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I think(im a little short on the knowledge front as well) that the X800 series, with the exception of the XTPE X850, are R420 I know for sure the SE and Pro versions are but after that ?????

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I have both bios's. I will try it once I have adiquite cooling!!!!.
 
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I don't think u will unlock the extra pipes..especially on the newer x800pros. Ive tried...but no luck :mad:
 
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you have to hradware-mord the pros.

I think the SE will unlcok 1 set op pipes (4 extra to 12) and then you'll have to hardware-mod for the extra 4.
 
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Nergal said:
you have to hradware-mord the pros.

I think the SE will unlcok 1 set op pipes (4 extra to 12) and then you'll have to hardware-mod for the extra 4.

Umm...ive done that, but still no luck. The new revisions come with another from of protection.
 

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hi there got the same card and the same thoughts, overclocking is never enough i got had my sapphire x800se up to 564.55 core and 537 mem, but all i can think about is getting those piplines open, got crossed fingers for ya gerrynicol, i got this little baby in pc world and the nets a little dry on success stories for it.
 
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hm just do it? nothing can happen u can flash it back always in cause it didnt work look for some laser cuts and so on
 

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I got a new card now so sorry folks, went for a 6800GT, I read up as much as I could and it seems like this is a no go anyway, Some stories say the card just dies after a flash.
 
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hm :D or take a x800xl | 6800gt are same speed
 
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soo.....END OF STORY..????
I hope not.....I too have a x800se ( MSI ).......
found some stuff on a german website on hard-modding a x800 PRO....but not a x800se...!!!
Correct me if I am wrong : the X800se has a R420 core and the PRO allso have a R420 core....
So why is´nt it possible to unlock the extra pipes ????
 

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Both the pro and se have 420, I checked on my card and it never had any laser cuts either. I have read some articles, when they have tried to mod the se but it just dies, I dunno, never wanted to try just in case.
 
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just oc the card is also good but the flash cant work someone from inside telled me that the card is a 8 pp and the 12 arent reachable trough flashing
 

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I to hope this is not the end, how much more performance wise would we achieve opening these pipes. i already feel like im missing out, with my massive lack of knoledge on flashing, and that it seems you need shit proof undies to have a go, is making me feel that i had better offically buy myself out of the 8 pipe trap im in. x800 xt or x800 pe what can i pick these up for and where do you sugest i look for a good deal.
 
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No1 has tried it with success.Try it and tell your results.If it will not unlock the 12 or 16 pipes ill go to X800XL...
 
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OKAY....I´ll give it a shot......Try it tonight.....
I will post results tonight or tomorrow ....hopefully.....If my graphic card survive
If no posts tonight/tomorrow....well you then know why.....
 

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Ive Got All My Lucky Charms Out For You Vulkan Bros, My, You Must Have Some Shit Proof Cacks. If It Does Work Then Surely You Would Have Found The Cheapest Way Of Getting To The Xt Pe Performance Level. Fortune Favors The Brave. If By Any Chance Someone Knows That This Is Deffently Gonna Harm Vulkan Card Could They Please Get A Message In, Instead Of Watching Him Fry His Card, Know Theres A Good Comunity. By The By Has Anyone Been Keeping Up On The Latest Mame Developments This Little Program Makes Well Happy Just Like To Know If There Are Any New Roms In Town ... Chow
 
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Thanx for the your concern steelmind......:)

Well....I did manage to flash my MSI x800se card.......but....
Nothing happend....ATITool tells me, that I am running with "only" 8 pipelines....
and my core and memory speeds are the same as before ( 400/400 )
The card is now identified as a X800 XT card ( nothing about PE ?? )

FACTS :
Card : MSI RX800SE-TD256 256MB GDDR3 2 ns ( NO LASERCUT )( AGP )
Flashtool used : Modified flashrom
BIOS used : MSI X800 XT PE (AGP) 256 MB
The flashing went well without errors....

Question : Has it anything to do with the fact that my memory is 2.0 ns and the XT PE original is 1.6 ns ??
Should I try another BIOS ? ATI or GIGABYTE ??
 

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Try to enable the xtra pipes using AtiTool.You can also open XT PE bios with rabit and save it to a new one with 2ns and try flashing again.
 

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Did you try any benches?it also may seem to be 8 piped but in benches may be some differences.
 
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I have bench´ed it with HL2 Bench and 3DMark....no or very very little gain.....
ATITool do not give me the possibility to enable any extra pipelines....
I will try edit the BIOS file with ( ? rabit ? ) a BIOS-file-editor, to see if its possible
to alter the speed of the memory....
I will be back......
 
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