second pump in loop?

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
If in the EU or UK you might also look at techN blocks
They are inexpensive and actually pretty good

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Sometimes rubber leaches so yeah that could be the black stuff.

 

[FoulOnWhite]

Even if there was stuff in the water, how did it get passed the filter, which I have to say traps pretty small stuff

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Likely just the rubber leaching
Rubber for a water jet is just cheap and weird way to do it.

 

[Vya Domus]

I don't understand how it could have gotten clogged either, very bizarre, some coating from somewhere must have came off.

Yeah the faster the fluid goes through radiators they actually are less efficient at removing the heat from the fluid unless you increase the fan speed and of course you add noise

That's not really how that works, there have been plenty of tests, the faster the flow usually the better the temperatures.

 

[FoulOnWhite]

flow is 139.5L/PH now. Still think i might look at another block. theis core 1 was worth a try, but not a fan of the seal setup with the flat piece of rubber.

Pardon the dust

Think i am going to buy myself a good aircooler as a back up, D15 still pretty good?

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Yeah photo op dust it happens lol
Did it the other day with my laptop but it wasn't dust it was oily hands.. prints

I'm down to single d5 vario on my most complex build x299
It's in storage now and I use mostly my z490 also single d5 but it's only on my gpu with a single rad.

Found my ek gpu water block images to wasn't it you that showed an old ek block ?

 

[FoulOnWhite]

@EddyAlphacool

Is this ok? is it possible to get a new one? Had to clean it, the rubber seal has stretched? was tricky getting it back in correctly

 

[Kapone33]

This is why I use Alphacool Quick connects and only Copper parts at all times. I don't even like to use nickel plated blocks either.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Ouch alphacool did that
Stainless steal that expensive

 

[FoulOnWhite]

This is why I use Alphacool Quick connects and only Copper parts at all times. I don't even like to use nickel plated blocks either.

To be fair, my EK GPU block has been in the loop for nearly 2 years and was a little dirty that's all, the nickel coating was fine. As you can see, my CPU block is copper.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Yeah I prefer copper as well
Think people exaggerate copper aging effects a lot
Lots said it would turn black with plexi on it = yeah right

 

[FoulOnWhite]

I do have a tested fail safe on my loop connected to the high flow next, if the flow goes to zero, or water temp goes over 60c it activats the power switch and turns it off.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
D5's are sensitive to fluid heat think 45c is the limit ?

Oops nope 60c limit
- Maximum liquid temperature: 60°C

 

[A Computer Guy]

Yeah that happens if fluid isn't clean I've been there lol
Use coffee filters to filter your fluid before using it.

Optimus cpu blocks are pretty damn good for US.

Amazon.com

I found when using a disposable filter prewashing the coffee filter in distilled water is good to remove stray fibers before using the filter.

 

[ThrashZone]

I found when using a disposable filter prewashing the coffee filter in distilled water is good to remove stray fibers before using the filter.

Hi,
They work great on premix fluids to

 

[EddyAlphacool]

@FoulOnWhite
Support can certainly send you a new one. But as the seal is very thin, it will generally be difficult to insert it cleanly.

Hi,
Ouch alphacool did that
Stainless steal that expensive

What do you mean? I don't understand the statement, or do you mean that the rubber piece should have been made of stainless steel? That is intentional, this rubber insert ensures that 100% of the water is channelled through the centre. It should seal everything around it at this point. With stainless steel, you have leakage currents around the jetplate, which reduces the cooling performance somewhat. We will switch to this technology for all coolers because it simply delivers more performance.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Nice to know I'll pass on those products

 

[FoulOnWhite]

@FoulOnWhite
Support can certainly send you a new one. But as the seal is very thin, it will generally be difficult to insert it cleanly.




What do you mean? I don't understand the statement, or do you mean that the rubber piece should have been made of stainless steel? That is intentional, this rubber insert ensures that 100% of the water is channelled through the centre. It should seal everything around it at this point. With stainless steel, you have leakage currents around the jetplate, which reduces the cooling performance somewhat. We will switch to this technology for all coolers because it simply delivers more performance.

I understand the reason but it is pretty fiddly keeping it in place while trying to get the block together. It does seem like it streched or expanded a bit so seems a bit bigger than the position it fits into. Maybe a thin metal strip with a fixed on rubber piece might work better, dunno?

Thanks anyway, I'll be interested to see what a new seal is like. DM me for details, thx

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Nice block but I don't like the use of so much rubber
As the op said, clogged with black stuff
Ek also has issues with leaching rubber o-rings on gpu blocks Plexi tops make it easy to spot so just an added frustration with flow issues arise.

Get QDC's so you don't have to drain your system to do maintenance on the cpu block.

 

[FoulOnWhite]

Hi,
Nice block but I don't like the use of so much rubber
As the op said, clogged with black stuff
Ek also has issues with leaching rubber o-rings on gpu blocks Plexi tops make it easy to spot so just an added frustration with flow issues arise.

Get QDC's so you don't have to drain your system to do maintenance on the cpu block.

I think i might well get some. I'm guessing it's not the first time i will have to do this.

Basically, my process was
Isolate the GPU block, so pump/res-GPU block-pump/res, looked at flow, was fine.
Isolate CPU block, so pump/res-CPU block-pump/res, water flow was a trickle.

I do look after my loop so do not know wher the black stuff came from, and as my parts apart from the CPU block are all a fiar age now, couldn't figure out where the black stuff came from. Well i will keep an eye on the flow rate now, and as soon as it starts to drastically drop, i will investigate what is going on. If it had dropped to zero my PC would have shut down. Makes sense to have some safety if you run a loop.

 

[ShrimpBrime]

CPU was clogged, anyway the rubber seal in this new alphacool core 1 that was £120 is a bloody awful fit. Not even sure if I will be able to get it back together properly
View attachment 323420

I think I might be buying another block.

I'll be really annoyed if this leaks.

Curious the swelling of the rubber sheet in there.

I would be interested to know the composition.

Is it PTFE, EPDM, or perhaps something like fuel hose rubber such as CRP or NBR.

All these different types of rubbers are less prone to leech and swelling.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Get a couple more pairs of qdc's for your pump/ reservoir
This is so you can prime your cpu block after you disconnect it and clean it
Helps to limit how much air goes into the system otherwise you still need to get the added air out.

Save time bottom line.
I love qdc's I use the black koolance qd3 but alphacool has some to as mentioned

QD3 Male Quick Disconnect No-Spill Coupling, Compression for 10mm x 16mm (3/8in x 5/8in) *Black*

Koolance patented quick disconnect no-spill coupling with automatic shutoff. 10mm (3/8in) ID, 16mm (5/8in) OD male straight connection with compression fitti

koolance.com

QD3 Female Quick Disconnect No-Spill Coupling, Compression for 10mm x 16mm (3/8in x 5/8in) *Black*

Koolance patented quick disconnect no-spill coupling with automatic shutoff. 10mm (3/8in) ID, 16mm (5/8in) OD female straight connection with compression fit

koolance.com

 

[Bobaganoosh]

The Koolance QD3's are fantastic. I use them at home and on several more industrial-level work projects. I also use Koolance 702 clear coolant for a lot of stuff. It easily goes 2-3 years without even so much as a concern. I had some bad luck with EK Cryofuel gumming things up in my home rig, but cleaned out my system and swapped to the 702 stuff I had been using at work and it's been great.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Yeah ek fluid wow brings bad nightmares of that crap for myself I fell for that crap when they first put it out ouch biggest single mistake in my life was using that stuff lost a lot of hair over clogging cpu blocks and even gpu blocks acid green especially was bad
EK reps disappeared on OCN after reports started coming in lol didn't see ek reps reappear until the magnitude released that's a couple years

 

[FoulOnWhite]

Curious the swelling of the rubber sheet in there.

I would be interested to know the composition.

Is it PTFE, EPDM, or perhaps something like fuel hose rubber such as CRP or NBR.

All these different types of rubbers are less prone to leech and swelling.

It was very difficult to get it back in the right place, then how do you know if it is once it is together. It was longer than the place it fits into, so what, does it just squash into place. Imo it is not the best bit about the good block. It kinda feels like the stuff cycle inner tubes are made from.

Hi,
Get a couple more pairs of qdc's for your pump/ reservoir
This is so you can prime your cpu block after you disconnect it and clean it
Helps to limit how much air goes into the system otherwise you still need to get the added air out.

Save time bottom line.
I love qdc's I use the black koolance qd3 but alphacool has some to as mentioned

QD3 Male Quick Disconnect No-Spill Coupling, Compression for 10mm x 16mm (3/8in x 5/8in) *Black*

Koolance patented quick disconnect no-spill coupling with automatic shutoff. 10mm (3/8in) ID, 16mm (5/8in) OD male straight connection with compression fitti

koolance.com

QD3 Female Quick Disconnect No-Spill Coupling, Compression for 10mm x 16mm (3/8in x 5/8in) *Black*

Koolance patented quick disconnect no-spill coupling with automatic shutoff. 10mm (3/8in) ID, 16mm (5/8in) OD female straight connection with compression fit

koolance.com

So do i have to buy a male and a female? EDIT just saw the different links

So what do i need from here, sorry never bought these before
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/?query=Koolance%20QD3