Shadow Of The Tomb Raider - CPU Performance and general game benchmark discussions

[WHDS]

how are you getting so much of a higher score than me?

Looks like your graphics settings are on custom instead of lowest mate

How's the difference between the benchmark and actual gameplay?

It's a good indication of in game performance, but some of the more populated areas can get a lot more taxing on the cpu than the built in benchmark

 

[Felix123BU]

how are you getting so much of a higher score than me?

Can you please rerun an post it with Lowest setting so we all have the same settings for comparison? Thx mate

Looks like your graphics settings are on custom instead of lowest mate


It's a good indication of in game performance, but some of the more populated areas can get a lot more taxing on the cpu than the built in benchmark

The biggest CPU hog as in areas is the big city at the end, but I am guessing its also more graphically taxing also since most areas are very small in comparison.

Another thing that is interesting for me about this game is how GPU architectures impacts CPU stats in the benchmark, I am not 100% certain, I noticed in some other threads that generally speaking, Nvidia GPU's tend to get better CPU scores with similar setups. I was hoping we get more Nvidia powered results to test this theory

how are you getting so much of a higher score than me?

Also, you might ask @Taraquin (see at the beginning of thread), he posted a result with a 5600X, and he gets a lot higher CPU score than most, actually excellent for a 5600X, he might have an answer

 

[Space Lynx]

Can you please rerun an post it with Lowest setting so we all have the same settings for comparison? Thx mate


The biggest CPU hog as in areas is the big city at the end, but I am guessing its also more graphically taxing also since most areas are very small in comparison.

Another thing that is interesting for me about this game is how GPU architectures impacts CPU stats in the benchmark, I am not 100% certain, I noticed in some other threads that generally speaking, Nvidia GPU's tend to get better CPU scores with similar setups. I was hoping we get more Nvidia powered results to test this theory


Also, you might ask @Taraquin (see at the beginning of thread), he posted a result with a 5600X, and he gets a lot higher CPU score than most, actually excellent for a 5600X, he might have an answer

 

[Cowboystrekk]

Most of the improvements are based on ram tuning. You can post a screenshot of zentimings and we can try to help you if you want?

 

[Space Lynx]

Most of the improvements are based on ram tuning. You can post a screenshot of zentimings and we can try to help you if you want?

I mean, I'm only 10 fps away from his mega overclocked xt edition, so I'm good... lol

 

[Cowboystrekk]

I mean, I'm only 10 fps away from his mega overclocked xt edition, so I'm good... lol

If you look at my score I get 29fps above you (and my ram has a poor bin and cooling), with some tweaking that is possible for you as well, but if you don't want an extra free 10-15% performance it's up to you

 

[Space Lynx]

If you look at my score I get 29fps above you (and my ram has a poor bin and cooling), with some tweaking that is possible for you as well, but if you don't want an extra free 10-15% performance it's up to you

I'm willing to give it a shot...

this is what i have now, stable. if you can take me to 4000 cas 16-17-17-17 it might be worth a try, i don't think these sticks can do 4000 16-16-16-16 though. they are b-die 2x16gb.

 

[jesdals]

Did not look good on my Eyefinity setup but heres my first try

 

[Space Lynx]

Did not look good on my Eyefinity setup but heres my first try
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I'm only 30 fps slower than you on the average fps score. and my PC was about half the cost of yours... assuming we both paid MSRP. not bad on my end, though if I could afford what you have I would have done so too lol

edit: do you have SAM on? I do

 

[jesdals]

I have SAM on but not any settings giving boost in the driver setup so this is baseline 6900XT - I am not going to tinker with it today but perhaps next week

 

[Space Lynx]

I have SAM on but not any settings giving boost in the driver setup so this is baseline 6900XT - I am not going to tinker with it today but perhaps next week
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I've tested with boost off and on, and it was only a 1-2 fps difference for this particular 'lowest settings' test in this thread. It may just be it doesn't work well in the bench as the bench is usually slow moving camera angles and boost really only helps in fast paced action stuff... not sure. But I find it useless so far... maybe it will help in actual in-action though that I have not tested yet.

 

[Cowboystrekk]

I'm willing to give it a shot...

this is what i have now, stable. if you can take me to 4000 cas 16-17-17-17 it might be worth a try, i don't think these sticks can do 4000 16-16-16-16 though. they are b-die 2x16gb.

How high is your infinity fabric stable? These are samsung B-die? Your tRFC is really lax. If you can do 2000 infinity fabric try the following: Just try copying my timings except use your current values on ProcODT and all below. Copy the voltage settings. I have a poor binned B-die kit som you might get it to work

 

[Space Lynx]

How high is your infinity fabric stable? These are samsung B-die? Your tRFC is really lax. If you can do 2000 infinity fabric try the following: Just try copying my timings except use your current values on ProcODT and all below. Copy the voltage settings. I have a poor binned B-die kit som you might get it to work
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i always get confused which soc voltage to use, chipset or cpu for ram overclocking. my mobo has both listed in the same area.

yeah 2000 flck works just fine on x570 tomahawk. its a great board.

 

[mrthanhnguyen]

 

[Space Lynx]

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those are some amazing system specs under your name there bud... wow lol 5.5 ghz, do you run that 24/7????

 

[mrthanhnguyen]

those are some amazing system specs under your name there bud... wow lol 5.5 ghz, do you run that 24/7????

Yes

 

[Space Lynx]

Yes

Please do me a favor? Trash that monitor, buy a bigger desk, and get a LG CX 48" OLED or the new 48" C1 OLED also just came out a few weeks ago, either one.

You can obviously afford it. Space it so its just right for your eyes with a bigger desk, if you have room for a bigger desk anyway...

that would truly be the ultimate gaming setup then lol

edit: don't trash it... lol keep as backup

 

[toilet pepper]

Here's mine with a heavily gimped 5800x. RAM at 3600CL16.

For some reason I cranked everything up and the difference ain't that big.

 

[Cowboystrekk]

i always get confused which soc voltage to use, chipset or cpu for ram overclocking. my mobo has both listed in the same area.

yeah 2000 flck works just fine on x570 tomahawk. its a great board.

Not sure, only got one soc voltage at mye setup.

Here's mine with a heavily gimped 5800x. RAM at 3600CL16.

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For some reason I cranked everything up and the difference ain't that big.

Done any ram tuning? 250fps+ should be doable with a bit of tuning

 

[Felix123BU]

Not sure, only got one soc voltage at mye setup.

Done any ram tuning? 250fps+ should be doable with a bit of tuning

It depends on how much tuning your ram kit can take, I speak from experience, my ram kit is natively 3333Mhz CL16 (very loose default timings), I tuned it to 3733 Mhz 1:1:1 CL16 as tight as I could get timings (Dram Calculator Fast, then manually tightening some more). That got me an extra 30-35 fps in this game at 1080, so from 230fps, for the next 20fps to 250fps I need better ram, no extra tuning will give me that since the ram is at its max already

But yeah, if the ram kit is capable, tuning it can give you a looot of extra performance

 

[Cowboystrekk]

It depends on how much tuning your ram kit can take, I speak from experience, my ram kit is natively 3333Mhz CL16 (very loose default timings), I tuned it to 3733 Mhz 1:1:1 CL16 as tight as I could get timings (Dram Calculator Fast, then manually tightening some more). That got me an extra 30-35 fps in this game at 1080, so from 230fps, for the next 20fps to 250fps I need better ram, no extra tuning will give me that since the ram is at its max already

But yeah, if the ram kit is capable, tuning it can give you a looot of extra performance

Don't know what ram you got, but 3600cl16 usually means B-die or high binned Micron E/B or Hynix C/D. All those could do a lot more, but his infinity fabric might not support more than 3800 if he's unlucky. Even my Micron rev E 3000cl15 does 3733cl15 with much tighter timings than fast at dram calc. That got me 30fps. The B-die was better and got me over 40fps after tuning

 

[Felix123BU]

Don't know what ram you got, but 3600cl16 usually means B-die or high binned Micron E/B or Hynix C/D. All those could do a lot more, but his infinity fabric might not support more than 3800 if he's unlucky. Even my Micron rev E 3000cl15 does 3733cl15 with much tighter timings than fast at dram calc. That got me 30fps. The B-die was better and got me over 40fps after tuning

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In theory its Samsung B-die, dual rank, at least that's what Tayphoon reports. I did a lot of testing to find its limits, tried combos of max frequency and min latencies, the best I can get it either 3266 CL14 tuned, or 3733 CL16 tuned (ram frequency might go higher, but anything about IF 1866 results in no boot) . My motherboard is excellent for ram oc, I am 95% sure the sticks for whatever reason can not go higher than what they do now, even though I could be very wrong

The difference in Shadow Of The Tomb Raider between 3266 CL14 and 3733 CL16 is around 17 FPS at 1080 Lowest.

 

[bxcounter]

(9900k 5.0/4.6 - HT Off) + 1080Ti stock/OC + DDR4 3800 c14/4100 c17

 

[Cowboystrekk]

This: Corsair Vengeance RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4 3333 MHz C16 XMP 2.0 Enthusiast RGB LED Illuminated Memory Kit - Black: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

In theory its Samsung B-die, dual rank, at least that's what Tayphoon reports. I did a lot of testing to find its limits, tried combos of max frequency and min latencies, the best I can get it either 3266 CL14 tuned, or 3733 CL16 tuned (ram frequency might go higher, but anything about IF 1866 results in no boot) . My motherboard is excellent for ram oc, I am 95% sure the sticks for whatever reason can not go higher than what they do now, even though I could be very wrong

The difference in Shadow Of The Tomb Raider between 3266 CL14 and 3733 CL16 is around 17 FPS at 1080 Lowest.

What are the primary timings xmp? 16-16-16 tends to be B-die, but if timing 2 and 3 are 18 they are very rarely B-die. Thaiphoon sometimes reads wrong, I have heard of rev E being read as B-die.

Edit: Googled a bit and found a similar kit with 3333cl16-18-18-35. If that is what you have I bet they are Micron rev B SR or rev E DR. They are both okay, but they struggle with low tRCDRD which can explain why getting below 17 is difficult.

 

[Felix123BU]

What are the primary timings xmp? 16-16-16 tends to be B-die, but if timing 2 and 3 are 18 they are very rarely B-die. Thaiphoon sometimes reads wrong, I have heard of rev E being read as B-die.

16-17-16, I can put 16-16-16, but its not really 100% stable. If you got some advice on how to tighten even more, I am ready to listen