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Impressive but this goes to show that the Patriot Viper 4000 CL16 kit is a much better bin than the 4400 C19. I also have seen the 4000 CL16 selling cheaper than 4400 C19 kits on both Amazon and on Newegg.


I would grab one of those 4000 CL16 if it was available locally but no surprise its not! Probably would cost more than the C19 kit here anyway.
I will be using two dual channel kits of those in my X99 platform from now on (main PC upgrade in progress...).
Here's a quick test on open bench before putting all of this into my new case :

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Just a quick bench with XMP timings, will tweak them later:

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Just a quick bench with XMP timings, will tweak them later:

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As a starting point it look ok, but I struggle to find your RAM in the G.Skill home page. It’s a B-die for sure and as such should/could have the potential for a Cl12 @ 4000 If 4000/14 is out of the box. MSI isn’t a bad choice for pushing RAM.

I know this is about how far and with what effect you can push a 5800X3D. Wish you luck.

Edit: Royal Elite …., I might try 1.55V just before I retire one of my machines .
 
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As a starting point it look ok, but I struggle to find your RAM in the G.Skill home page. It’s a B-die for sure and as such should/could have the potential for a Cl12 @ 4000 If 4000/14 is out of the box. MSI isn’t a bad choice for pushing RAM.

I know this is about how far and with what effect you can push a 5800X3D. Wish you luck.

Edit: Royal Elite …., I might try 1.55V just before I retire one of my machines .
Thanks for the tips! They are G.SKILL Ripjaws V. I'll try to stabilize the IF first, as I'm getting random Bus/Interconnect Errors. Need to play with the voltages - currently all on auto and CLDO VDDP seems too high.
 
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Thanks for the tips! They are G.SKILL Ripjaws V. I'll try to stabilize the IF first, as I'm getting random Bus/Interconnect Errors. Need to play with the voltages - currently all on auto and CLDO VDDP seems too high.
I read on another forum that low VSOC set by XMP or your BIOS can cause these errors.
Something else to try if you not using your LAN or any other onboard devices serial or parallel ports disable them in all the BIOS.
 

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Thanks for the tips! They are G.SKILL Ripjaws V. I'll try to stabilize the IF first, as I'm getting random Bus/Interconnect Errors. Need to play with the voltages - currently all on auto and CLDO VDDP seems too high.

VDDP is obscenely high and VDDGs not set properly can cause problems, but tbh the majority of Bus/Interconnect problems still comes back to not enough VSOC. 1.10v I'd feel comfortable running only on APU at 4000

Feel like it's not the first time I've seen some completely wack auto CLDOs for the new CPU. Like come on board vendors, it's fundamentally not that different
 
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Just used the settings DRAM Calculator suggested for B-die chips. I hope it is stable and will not need any more voltage for SoC or VDIMM. As for the AIDA blanks and info lacking it's because of the old version not supporting Zen3.
 
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Just used the settings DRAM Calculator suggested for B-die chips. I hope it is stable and will not need any more voltage for SoC or VDIMM. As for the AIDA blanks and info lacking it's because of the old version not supporting Zen3.
Have your tried running the XMP @4000 C19? Over on OCN 4000-4200 is not hard to get with setups similar to yours. You should be running AGESA 1.2.0.6 or later for that 5600.
 
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I read on another forum that low VSOC set by XMP or your BIOS can cause these errors.

VDDP is obscenely high and VDDGs not set properly can cause problems, but tbh the majority of Bus/Interconnect problems still comes back to not enough VSOC. 1.10v I'd feel comfortable running only on APU at 4000

Feel like it's not the first time I've seen some completely wack auto CLDOs for the new CPU. Like come on board vendors, it's fundamentally not that different

VDDP is derived from VDIMM, which in my case is 1.55v stock. That would probably explain why it was so high. Lowering it didn't get rid of WHEAs however, and even with 1.20v on VSOC + max LLC I can't get the IF stable at 2000 MHz. I tried different combinations of VDDG CCD/IO but to no avail. It looks like 2K isn't gonna happen on this sample.

Meanwhile I got 1900 error-free with default voltages, here's the tweaked results:

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Have your tried running the XMP @4000 C19? Over on OCN 4000-4200 is not hard to get with setups similar to yours. You should be running AGESA 1.2.0.6 or later for that 5600.
Thanks, will try just for fun as I need stability over peak performance (+2-3%). As for the AGESA, I use 1.2.0.6c already as AIDA shows.
 
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Technically Unlimited on EDC/TDC/PPT fixed the cache. Need to work on it for normal use :D


EDIT: Technically 16-12-16-24-30-44 with TRFC of 264-196-121 should be doable as it can run 4000 fine. I wonder if it will be better on the latency
 
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Tried the XMP settings at 4000 with IF 2000 (1:1) but it was unstable. Might need more voltage for SoC and VDIMM but I won't bother since my 3600c15 and TRFC@302 performance is great and system is stable with SoC@1,12V and VDIMM@1,4V.
 
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Post your zen timings as they are, we can help as 3800 should be very easy on that 5600. Dont bother with xmp as auto voltage is ridiculous :)
 
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Post your zen timings as they are, we can help as 3800 should be very easy on that 5600. Dont bother with xmp as auto voltage is ridiculous :)
Thanks a lot for the help! :toast:
I have already posted my zentimings screenshot at the #2042 post of the thread in this page.
 
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