Should I disable fast startup in power management in windows 10

[YungTeq]

I heard that if you had fast start up enable in power management that it doesn’t fully shut down your pc when you click shutdown in windows.

Should I disable it because I don’t really need fast start up anyways I have a NVMe ssd so that is already fast enough to boot into my window Os.

 

[sam_86314]

I think "fast startup" is the new name for hybrid sleep, though I may be wrong, where the contents of memory are saved to storage when you shut down.

I'd turn it off.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Not many systems are compatible with it and it can only cause issues more than solving
I would and hibernation with CMD as admin and powercfg -h off and the option in power options is grayed out.

 

[YungTeq]

Yes I can disable it in power management it because when I shut down my pc and then click my mouse it lights up because the pc is probably not fully shutdown and sometimes it turn on the pc when I click the mouse after a shutdown

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Not only that but it suspends hdd's as well instead of shutting them down.

 

[YungTeq]

Hi,
Not only that but it suspends hdd's as well instead of shutting them down.

So if fast startup is enable if does not shut down the hdd

 

[ThrashZone]

So if fast startup is enable if does not shut down the hdd

Hi,
No.
Disconnect one and you'll likely cause check disk when you reconnect it later and possibly have corrupt files.

 

[YungTeq]

Hi,
No.
Disconnect one and you'll likely cause check disk when you reconnect it later and possibly have corrupt files.

Do you recommend to disable fast startup

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Not many systems are compatible with it and it can only cause issues more than solving
I would and hibernation with CMD as admin and powercfg -h off and the option in power options is grayed out.

Yes.

 

[crypto7]

What it does is quits all apps and writes the entire contents of the kernel and RAM to a multi-GB (up to the size of your RAM) hiberfil.sys file at the root of C:
Then when it has to "boot" (wake up) it just reloads the entire contents, which makes it much faster.
However there are a litany of reasons to disable it:

Search results for 'how Fast Startup works in Windows 10' - Microsoft Support

support.microsoft.com

...but for me running Windows 10 Enterprise the main one is this:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4011287/windows-updates-not-install-with-fast-startup (even though I have Features Updates deferred 365 days and Quality Updates by 30 days. Ha)

I second ThrashZone above; go to Windows menu --> cmd --> Ctrl+Shift+Enter (Run as admin) --> type
powercfg -h off
Press Enter.
You can google how to disable only Hybrid Boot/Fast Startup instead of disabling hibernation entirely, as this command does, but hibernation conflicts with Symantec Endpoint Encryption and potentially BitLocker in rare circumstance. No good reason for it IMHO

 

[Rock N Roll Rebel]

fast-start is in the bios in the boot area you can disable it there

 

[heky]

fast-start is in the bios in the boot area you can disable it there

Has nothing to do with Windows fast start...

 

[ereko]

Has nothing to do with Windows fast start...

Why?

 

[lexluthermiester]

I heard that if you had fast start up enable in power management that it doesn’t fully shut down your pc when you click shutdown in windows.

Should I disable it because I don’t really need fast start up anyways I have a NVMe ssd so that is already fast enough to boot into my window Os.

Turn it off. Not worth the hassle.

 

[newtekie1]

I think "fast startup" is the new name for hybrid sleep, though I may be wrong, where the contents of memory are saved to storage when you shut down.

They are two different things. Hybrid Sleep makes the system write the contents of RAM to the hiberfil.sys when the computer goes to sleep. It kind of hibernates and sleeps the system at the same time. So if the system completely loses power when it is in sleep mode, it will resume from hibernation instead of sleep.

Not many systems are compatible with it and it can only cause issues more than solving

Any PC from the past several years should be compatible with it. It's just using the hibernation function that's been in use for decades now.

The main issue with Fast Startup in Windows is that it never fully shuts down Windows. Which Windows doesn't like after long periods of time. Windows just like to be shut down from time to time. I see a lot of systems now that people complain about problems that are solved simply by turning off Fast Startup and then shutting the system down and turning it back on. Windows sometimes just needs a kick in the ass.

Hi,
No.
Disconnect one and you'll likely cause check disk when you reconnect it later and possibly have corrupt files.

That's not true at all. Fast Startup shuts down the hard drives just like hibernation(because it is hibernation), and you can disconnect them without any issues.

Do you recommend to disable fast startup

Yes, it helps Windows stay running smoothly to turn it off.

Why?

Because they are two different things. Fast Start in the BIOS just makes the motherboard skip certain POST functions. Fast Startup in Windows changes the Windows Shutdown function to instead just log the user off and then hibernate the computer instead of actually shutting down.

 

[Assimilator]

The main issue with Fast Startup in Windows is that it never fully shuts down Windows. Which Windows doesn't like after long periods of time. Windows just like to be shut down from time to time. I see a lot of systems now that people complain about problems that are solved simply by turning off Fast Startup and then shutting the system down and turning it back on. Windows sometimes just needs a kick in the ass.

Which isn't an issue since you reboot at least once a month to install Windows Updates anyway.

 

[Bill_Bright]

If not causing problems - and it rarely does, there is no reason to turn it off!

For most users, the worst problem is Windows Updates may not be applied right away. NO BIG DEAL. This is remedied by a simple reboot. But Windows already knows how to deal with this so you don't need to worry about it. No extra action is required of the user.

Another problem that might occasionally affect you, with some motherboards, you cannot access the BIOS/UEFI after a shutdown. But again, a simple reboot remedies this. And really, how often do must users need to access their BIOS/UEFI? But to that, I currently have 5 computers here, 3 with Gigabyte boards, 1 ASUS and one Toshiba notebook. All have Fast Startup enabled (the default setting, BTW) and I have never been locked out of the BIOS/UEFI Setup Menu.

Some, but not all users with 3rd party encryption running on their drives have reported some problems. But BitLocker works fine.

If you are not experiencing any of these problems, there is no reason to disable it. For the vast majority of users, it works perfectly - letting your computer boot much faster than with Fast Startup disabled. And who doesn't like faster boot times?

See The Pros and Cons of Windows 10's "Fast Startup" Mode.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
I shut down nightly and mostly if I leave so fast start in os/ hibernation or fast start in bios is useless to me.

 

[Bill_Bright]

I shut down nightly and mostly if I leave so fast start in os/ hibernation or fast start in bios is useless to me.

But Fast Start has nothing to do with your shut down or end of day "habits".

It is all about starting up the next time you wish to use it.

And what do you mean by "shut down". If you mean you go through the Start Menu and select "Shut down" then you really are just putting your computer to sleep. A real shutdown requires the user to totally remove power from the computer by unplugging from the wall, or flipping the power supply's master power switch on back (if it has one) to Off (0).

Just because someone does not see the advantages of a particular feature, that does not mean it should be disabled. Fast Startup does NOT degrade performance in any way. It does not present a security risk. And for the vast majority of users, it causes no problems at all. So for those users, there's no reason to disable it.

 

[ThrashZone]

But Fast Start has nothing to do with your shut down or end of day "habits".

It is all about starting up the next time you wish to use it.

And what do you mean by "shut down". If you mean you go through the Start Menu and select "Shut down" then you really are just putting your computer to sleep. A real shutdown requires the user to totally remove power from the computer by unplugging from the wall, or flipping the power supply's master power switch on back (if it has one) to Off (0).

Just because someone does not see the advantages of a particular feature, that does not mean it should be disabled. Fast Startup does NOT degrade performance in any way. It does not present a security risk. And for the vast majority of users, it causes no problems at all. So for those users, there's no reason to disable it.

Hi,
That is your opinion.
When I want to shut down that is exactly want I want done. winkey+uu or right click other ways that state shut down
I don't want to hibernate or sleep in any hybrid or older way.

Disabling fast start in bios just gives an extra couple seconds to get into bios with delete or what ever bios flash screen options are.

 

[Bill_Bright]

It is my opinion to just leave it alone if not causing problem.

But it is technical fact that when you use the WinKey, the Start Menu or whatever method to "Shut down", the computer is NOT totally "off". It is in one of several "Standby" modes. Again, that is just a fact - not my opinion.

I don't want to hibernate or sleep in any hybrid or older way.

Well, you say you don't want sleep - but you are still putting your computer to sleep!

So if you don't want "hibernate or sleep in any hybrid or older way", you need to Shut down the computer and then pull the plug from the wall, or flip the PSU's master power switch. Again, not opinion, just fact.

 

[Rei]

Just to make sure that I am on the same page, the "fast startup" option is the one on the "Power Options" page of the control panel that says "Turn on fast startup (recommended)" on Win10, right?
If so, I have tried & tested that function repeatedly on & off with a stopwatch for nearly 2 hours straight just for that & found negligible performance difference. I got a 12 seconds improvement at best & -4 seconds at worst, which is not an improvement. A number of other factors can also play a difference in startup speed such what type of hard drive the OS is installed in, is the hard drive optimized, trimmed/defragmented, what startup programs runs after Windows boot, what device such as USB are connected to the system during boot (e.g. External USB HDD slows down startup), etc.

 

[newtekie1]

Which isn't an issue since you reboot at least once a month to install Windows Updates anyway.

Tell that to the Win10 machines I see all the time with uptimes well over 100 Days.

 

[lexluthermiester]

But it is a possibility that when you use the WinKey, the Start Menu or whatever method to "Shut down", the computer is NOT totally "off". It is in one of several "Standby" modes. Again, that is just a possibility

That behaviour from Windows depends on the configuration it is set to. Not all configs are the same. Therefore, your statement needs correction(see above). Context is important.

When I want to shut down that is exactly want I want done.

Disable hibernation, disable sleep. Doing so is easily done and will provide the desired result.

 

[Bill_Bright]

That behaviour from Windows depends on the configuration it is set to. Not all configs are the same. Therefore, your statement needs correction(see above). Context is important.

We've been through this before, Lex. Please do your homework before posting. And do NOT change my words! You have now misquoted me and that is NOT cool.

FACT: The ATX Form Factor standard dictates whenever an ATX PSU is plugged in, and "if equipped", the master power switch on the PSU is set to "On" or "1", +5Vsb standby voltage is applied to several points on the motherboard. That is a fact! Not an opinion!

And that +5Vsb standby voltage is used to keep several circuits alive, including the case's front panel power button - which is a "remote" button. A remote button that can only function when the motherboard is in one of its "Standby modes"!

So I say again,

But it is technical fact that when you use the WinKey, the Start Menu or whatever method to "Shut down", the computer is NOT totally "off". It is in one of several "Standby" modes. Again, that is just a fact - not my opinion.