Should I disable my Hdd in order to intall my windows media into my ssd??

[Marioo]

I think there may be some misunderstood details of your situation.
Ok so to be clear you are upgrading your laptop/notebook?
Does the laptop/notebook currently have one or two drives?
What is the make and model of your laptop/notebook?

I put a ssd and tryed to clone my system to my ssd with macrium but unfortunetaly did not work! Then I have two partitions now one with the system I cloned and the other one is empety!! And now I have a creation media in my pendrive to reinstall from the bios !! Is it well answered! My note is Vaio positivo and the model is vjf155f11xBO211B

I put a ssd and tryed to clone my system to my ssd with macrium but unfortunetaly did not work! Then I have two partitions now one with the system I cloned and the other one is empety!! And now I have a creation media in my pendrive to reinstall from the bios !! Is it well answered! My note is Vaio positivo and the model is vjf155f11xBO211B Then what happens to HDD after a fresh installing system on my ssd? How can I use that for keeping my files ???

 

[DaemonForce]

I have been advised to disable or take off my Hdd in order to intall my windwos data creation

Why would you need to do any of this?
Is it now difficult to manually setup the EFI/boot partition or something?
This whole Win11 timeline has been nonstop whiplash from day 1 and the drama looks SO foreign to me, it's actually insane.

I put a ssd and tryed to clone my system to my ssd with macrium but unfortunetaly did not work!

That's some popular software in this era. Did you use the Macrium boot kit? It seems to be superior to my last PE build in some way which is from....Sept 2017. Is this going to be an image backup of your current system or is it going to replace it entirely?

 

[A Computer Guy]

I put a ssd and tryed to clone my system to my ssd with macrium but unfortunetaly did not work! Then I have two partitions now one with the system I cloned and the other one is empety!! And now I have a creation media in my pendrive to reinstall from the bios !! Is it well answered! My note is Vaio positivo and the model is vjf155f11xBO211B

Ok so it sounds like you were trying to do a laptop storage upgrade and clone your old disk to your new disk before replacing disk into your laptop and something may have went wrong with the clone.

First I think it's best that you get some additional local help as there is no way for me to give you exact steps as to what you need to do as you have already started a process that may or may not have been successful so far. Perhaps a PC repair shop is your best choice.

Is the new disk larger than the old disk - to clarify - does the new disk have more capacity? It is possible you did the clone properly (if you did not get an error message during the clone) and all you need to do is replace the disk into your laptop.

You may have two partitions because the clone software did not use all the available space on the new disk. If this is the case then you should be able to simply replace the old disk with the new disk into your Laptop. There is probably an access panel on the bottom of the laptop you need to unscrew to access the old disk and remove it. Then put the new disk in, replace the access panel, and screw it back in. Then see if the laptop will boot.

 

[Marioo]

Ok so it sounds like you were trying to do a laptop storage upgrade and clone your old disk to your new disk before replacing disk into your laptop and something may have went wrong with the clone.

First I think it's best that you get some additional local help as there is no way for me to give you exact steps as to what you need to do as you have already started a process that may or may not have been successful so far. Perhaps a PC repair shop is your best choice.

Is the new disk larger than the old disk - to clarify - does the new disk have more capacity? It is possible you did the clone properly (if you did not get an error message during the clone) and all you need to do is replace the disk into your laptop.

You may have two partitions because the clone software did not use all the available space on the new disk. If this is the case then you should be able to simply replace the old disk with the new disk into your Laptop. There is probably an access panel on the bottom of the laptop you need to unscrew to access the old disk and remove it. Then put the new disk in, replace the access panel, and screw it back in. Then see if the laptop will boot.

Well that is exactally what happened! The partion with system cloned on my ssd is protected by the computer and I can not see whatever there is in it! But it says is healthy!! But the computer keeps starting the same way ! Someone said to me to enter bios and choose the partion with the system cloned and try to replace it witn the option "new" for downloading the windows creation tool I have already downloades in my pendrive and it is pluged on my computer!!

Well that is exactally what happened! The partion with system cloned on my ssd is protected by the computer and I can not see whatever there is in it! But it says is healthy!! But the computer keeps starting the same way ! Someone said to me to enter bios and choose the partion with the system cloned and try to replace it witn the option "new" for downloading the windows creation tool I have already downloades in my pendrive and it is pluged on my computer!! Should it be the next step for me to follow???

 

[Kapone33]

This is really not true. If you install any modern version of Windows, from 7 forward, and there is an additional drive in the system, Windows writes additional, boot-required, data to the "extra" drive. Also, many BIOS/UEFI settings do not allow for disabling of individual drives, or they're buried deep in the options, which increases the potential of mic-clicking a setting. It is best to disconnect any extra hard drives when doing a fresh install.

An unformatted drive with Windows installed is actually 3 partitions/drives. C, recovery and settings

 

[DaemonForce]

An unformatted drive with Windows installed is actually 3 partitions/drives. C, recovery and settings

Unformatted....Windows installed...Pick one. :/

I don't disconnect my data drives when installing Windows. Haven't formatted this device in over 2 years and I'm starting to think about it.
It's either a manually commanded or GUI assisted installation as I prefer to have full control over the install process with an answer file.
When setting up Windows on a UEFI enabled system, it's preferred to do GPT and create three partitions in preferred order: EFI, MSR, Windows.
There are some very weird people that keep recovery partitions on the same physical volume used to boot Windows, including Microsoft.
I don't remember how to setup the recovery partition locally but I believe Windows Setup does it automatically on clean unformatted disks.
So if you're doing byte for byte disk/partition cloning, none of this information applies.

 

[A Computer Guy]

Well that is exactally what happened! The partion with system cloned on my ssd is protected by the computer and I can not see whatever there is in it! But it says is healthy!!

But the computer keeps starting the same way ! Someone said to me to enter bios and choose the partion with the system cloned and try to replace it witn the option "new" for downloading the windows creation tool I have already downloades in my pendrive and it is pluged on my computer!!

Sorry, what you are saying here makes no sense to me. You should consult with a PC repair shop if you are continuing to have issues.

 

[SPDIF]

Well that changes everything... If you told from the beginning it was a laptop, you would have gotten the right info... But as it appears now, better go to a shop or get someone that knows what he's doing.

 

[Marioo]

Unformatted....Windows installed...Pick one. :/

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I don't disconnect my data drives when installing Windows. Haven't formatted this device in over 2 years and I'm starting to think about it.
It's either a manually commanded or GUI assisted installation as I prefer to have full control over the install process with an answer file.
When setting up Windows on a UEFI enabled system, it's preferred to do GPT and create three partitions in preferred order: EFI, MSR, Windows.
There are some very weird people that keep recovery partitions on the same physical volume used to boot Windows, including Microsoft.
I don't remember how to setup the recovery partition locally but I believe Windows Setup does it automatically on clean unformatted disks.
So if you're doing byte for byte disk/partition cloning, none of this information applies.

Unformatted....Windows installed...Pick one. :/

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I don't disconnect my data drives when installing Windows. Haven't formatted this device in over 2 years and I'm starting to think about it.
It's either a manually commanded or GUI assisted installation as I prefer to have full control over the install process with an answer file.
When setting up Windows on a UEFI enabled system, it's preferred to do GPT and create three partitions in preferred order: EFI, MSR, Windows.
There are some very weird people that keep recovery partitions on the same physical volume used to boot Windows, including Microsoft.
I don't remember how to setup the recovery partition locally but I believe Windows Setup does it automatically on clean unformatted disks.
So if you're doing byte for byte disk/partition cloning, none of this information applies.

 

[Kapone33]

Unformatted....Windows installed...Pick one. :/

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I don't disconnect my data drives when installing Windows. Haven't formatted this device in over 2 years and I'm starting to think about it.
It's either a manually commanded or GUI assisted installation as I prefer to have full control over the install process with an answer file.
When setting up Windows on a UEFI enabled system, it's preferred to do GPT and create three partitions in preferred order: EFI, MSR, Windows.
There are some very weird people that keep recovery partitions on the same physical volume used to boot Windows, including Microsoft.
I don't remember how to setup the recovery partition locally but I believe Windows Setup does it automatically on clean unformatted disks.
So if you're doing byte for byte disk/partition cloning, none of this information applies.

I was talking about taking a blank drive and installing Windows on it. What you see is exactly that. I meant the System when I said settings.

 

[Marioo]

I was talking about taking a blank drive and installing Windows on it. What you see is exactly that. I meant the System when I said settings.

Should I erase all data in drive 1 in order to install another creation media! It was said to me that If I do that thoughout bios I will have the option NEW to reinstall again the system! Is it right??

 

[SPDIF]

Not really the creation media itself will give you the option to delete everything when booting from it. But for an NVMe drive, the best thing is to Secure Erase the drive first, to prepare it for new installation.

 

[DaemonForce]

Looks like you successfully cloned the disk. I have no idea why there's THREE recovery partitions but that can't be good for this system.

 

[Marioo]

how can I merge ssd drives in order to intall a new fresh windows creation tool alredy in my pendrive?? Thanks anyway!!

 

[DaemonForce]

Merge SSDs....Are you trying to create a RAID? That's typically done by pairing identical disks. Same type, same size, usually the same model too. What exactly are you trying to do? Boot WinPE and install Windows? I don't know if I can write a tutorial for that on here plus it's been like 15-20 years since others have tried to come up with good tutorials about it too. I have tools from Bootland but you don't have access to those. RebootPro also had tools but the site is stagnant and full of broken code. You might be better off taking a Windows ISO and imaging a MicroSD using Rufus or something. I'm not sure if I can help with that.

 

[SPDIF]

I would not recommend to merge drives together as one, if one fails you have a risk to loose all of your data. Better take an external USB-NVMe drive for data storage.
And merge drives in a laptop, then you need many connectors for that. Most laptops has space or connectors for 1 or 2 drives and that's it. Not much merge you can do in this case.

Better take one as boot drive, the other for games and data storage. And optionally and external usb drive also. More then enough to do what you want, even take backups.

You jump a bit from one topic to another.

 

[Marioo]

Merge SSDs....Are you trying to create a RAID? That's typically done by pairing identical disks. Same type, same size, usually the same model too. What exactly are you trying to do? Boot WinPE and install Windows? I don't know if I can write a tutorial for that on here plus it's been like 15-20 years since others have tried to come up with good tutorials about it too. I have tools from Bootland but you don't have access to those. RebootPro also had tools but the site is stagnant and full of broken code. You might be better off taking a Windows ISO and imaging a MicroSD using Rufus or something. I'm not sure if I can help with that.

I think I did a mistake I mean merge partions from the same drive!!

 

[SPDIF]

But then why not make one big partition instead of making it so difficult?

 

[DaemonForce]

Okay, that's not going to work for a few reasons.
A GPT volume of this nature is going to have the boot partition, MSR partition and data (Windows) partition.
They are each separate types and formats: Fat16, Undefined, NTFS.

If your volume is MBR, it will work as one big active bootable partition but nothing here suggests that is what is going on here.

 

[c2DDragon]

Okay, that's not going to work for a few reasons.
A GPT volume of this nature is going to have the boot partition, MSR partition and data (Windows) partition.
They are each separate types and formats: Fat16, Undefined, NTFS.

If your volume is MBR, it will work as one big active bootable partition but nothing here suggests that is what is going on here.

As you stated before, it's not difficult, everything is written xD
To be noted : If a volume is MBR and you got your BIOS setup for UEFI it's not hard, people just have to delete (yeah, delete it, easy thing) the partition(s) and create one, it will become a GPT one.

Few notes from Microsoft https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/w...he-mbr-or-gpt-partition-style?view=windows-11

To answer quickly : THERE IS NO NEED TO UNPLUG ANY DRIVES TO INSTALL WINDOWS.
BUT YOU WILL HAVE TO READ WHAT IS WRITTEN ON YOUR SCREEN WHEN YOU INSTALL IT. (The hard part).

EDIT : Now if people cannot understand how to make their BIOS using UEFI because the hardware is old, they must read their motherboard manual &/or doing a BIOS update (if any update states it brings the UEFI option).

 

[SPDIF]

I guess the best option is that the OP seeks some help for this. Clearly does not know exactly what he is doing.

 

[Ahhzz]

Yeah, I do believe this is beyond the scope of the forums. Someone whose IT skills are at this level are really not going to benefit from the advice here.