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Shutting Out Windows - China releases openKylin 0.7 today

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On July 22, openKylin 0.7, the first experience version of the desktop operating system root community openKylin (Open Kylin), was released.
openKylin 0.7 is built on the Linux 5.15 kernel and other open source components, striving towards the goal of "independent innovation in every line of code". At the same time, this version is equipped with the UKUI3.1 desktop environment by default, comes with two system themes of "Heyin" and "Xunguang", provides wayland support and tablet mode support, and integrates a series of stable versions of basic libraries and graphics development libraries. and SDK to bring users a good experience.


Microsoft Windows has long enjoyed dominance in the desktop operating system market in China — and Beijing has long wanted that to change. Now after years of attempting to develop an alternative, the Chinese government is shifting tack. Its latest effort to come up with a viable indigenous rival to Windows — announced officially in June and known as the openKylin project — is looking to draw on expertise from a so-called “root community” of both state and non-state backed companies, individual developers, and research institutions. By encouraging an open-source development approach for the Kylin operating system and soliciting help from a wide range of participants, the Chinese authorities are hoping to improve their homegrown product, and to foster the sort of ecosystem around it that makes Windows such an attractive and essential system for companies and individuals around the world.
 

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Interesting, I for some reason didn’t expect it to be on something as new as 5.15.
 
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Isn't it a bit far to call it ""independent innovation in every line of code".

when your basing it on thousands of hours of open source work.
 
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Making me wonder if "Kylin" isn't Chinese for "Door" or even a term for "Drawers"....

Nah - I'll pass everytime on this one.
 

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Making me wonder if "Kylin" isn't Chinese for "Door" or even a term for "Drawers"....

Nah - I'll pass everytime on this one.
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Interesting, I for some reason didn’t expect it to be on something as new as 5.15.
Wayland also seems surprising to me. It's getting to a point where it's mostly finished and reliable, but I'd say it's mature enough only on Fedora and a very limited number of other systems.
Isn't it a bit far to call it ""independent innovation in every line of code".

when your basing it on thousands of hours of open source work.
That is indeed an exaggeration, but it is a Linux distro that is not based on any other system. There are numerous systems based on Debian, Arch, FreeBSD, Ubuntu, etc. But openKylin have more or less built their own system based on major tech like the Linux kernel, Qt, Wayland, standard libraries, etc.
 
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Interesting, I for some reason didn’t expect it to be on something as new as 5.15.
Probably because North Koreas home grown linux was laughably obsolete.
 

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Probably because North Koreas home grown linux was laughably obsolete.
A lot of business in North Korea is a bit different from how business is in the West.

But did you know that South Korea also switched to Linux two years ago: https://www.fosslinux.com/29117/south-korea-switching-their-3-3-million-pcs-to-linux.htm

The Japanese government has also considered switching to Linux, but has ultimately not done so: https://www.informationweek.com/software/japan-mulls-switch-to-linux-for-public-servants-data

As far as I know, Taiwan requires everything to be compatible with Linux, but they don't require Linux: https://www.zdnet.com/article/taiwan-mandates-linux-ready-pcs/

Russia has Astra Linux and a few other Linux systems that it uses frequently. In Germany, Norway, Spain, France, Italy, Romania, India, Turkey and many other countries, there are many major cities/government/schools/national broadcasters/police that use Linux for their desktop systems.

Linux also seems a logical choice in Africa, because the people there are already poor it is not nice to make them pay for proprietary software when there is equivalent or superior open source software available: https://www.infoworld.com/article/2681685/south-africa--nigeria-move-on-linux-adoption.html

The organizations have provided 35 Nigerian high schools with Internet access and other educational technologies built on Linux. Aside from that, they are helping to incorporate the study of Linux in the curriculum of those 35 high schools, Otokhine told the IDG News Service. Like South Africa the government is pursuing Linux because it finds it a cheaper alternative to Windows, according to Otokhine.
 
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Whats wrong with FreeBSD??
 
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Whats wrong with FreeBSD??
There is nothing wrong with FreeBSD. In most areas where Linux is used on servers/supercomputers/ARM/powerpc/RISCV/IoT, you can usually just as easily use FreeBSD or NetBSD.

It is understandable why Linux is more popular. Ubuntu, Manjaro, Fedora, Mint are among the most popular Linux systems because they are easy to install. FreeBSD is comparable or slightly more difficult than Arch Linux to install and configure. However, once you have FreeBSD installed and configured, it is probably more maintenance-friendly than any Linux system. But many people get stuck in that first step. So before FreeBSD can become popular it needs a user-friendly installer (and pre-installed desktop environment). For example, you have helloSystem, but that needs to be polished a bit further. You also have more companies working on Linux, which isn't necessarily a positive thing, but it does explain why Linux is more popular.

FreeBSD is better than macOS, windows, and Linux in the basics:
- file system: The only thing Linux has that competes with ZFS is Btrfs. Although Linux engineers always pretend that Btrfs is much faster than ZFS, unfortunately ZFS on FreeBSD is a lot faster than Btrfs on Linux in 90% of the situations. Linux engineers always say that Btrfs is much more advanced than ZFS, but that is not true. ZFS can compress certain data at 50% and gain speed. Btrfs loses significant performance in this situation. ZFS is a 128-bit system, and Btrfs is only a 64-bit system, meaning ZFS systems can hold countless times more data. ZFS is the only option if you want maximum reliability, in 2022. Btrfs still has many bugs and glitches. What about ZFS on Linux? It's +- 2.5 times slower (less IOPS) than running it on FreeBSD, and if you update your Linux system with a ZFS installation, it's not uncommon to encounter unexpected problems. Windows and macOS don't have file systems similar to ZFS currently, so they're simply no competition at all.
- networking: In general, in most situations, FreeBSD has the fastest network performance, Linux simply cannot follow in some situations.
- firewalls: The Linux firewalls are less easy to configure and have lower performance than PF on FreeBSD.
- the default shell: FreeBSD's Almquist shell has mostly the same syntax as Bash (Linux), but it's on average 4 times faster in performance.
- package manager: pkg is one of the best package managers out there, very reliable and lightning fast. Not all Linux package managers are equally good.
- stability: FreeBSD's overall stability is unbeatable, I haven't gotten into a complete system crash after five years of use. So you can always do Ctrl + Alt + F4 and you'll be able to continue working in FreeBSD. Even Debian can't always guarantee that.
- security: BSD systems are usually more secure than Linux/windows/macOS. Because it has so few users, very few hackers develop malware for BSD systems. Furthermore, BSD is often more secure than Linux, because security is one of the basic principles of BSD systems. FreeBSD also keeps its users better informed about potential security issues: https://unixsheikh.com/articles/the-delusions-of-debian.html
- open source: Many popular Linux systems have moved away from their open source roots, making it easy and popular to install proprietary software. FreeBSD does not participate in this. And as a result you learn to work with software that you will also be able to use on Linux/macOS/windows, so that what you learn always remains relevant.
 
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I trust their government OS as much as I trust Google to no longer be evil.
 
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A lot of business in North Korea is a bit different from how business is in the West.

But did you know that South Korea also switched to Linux two years ago: https://www.fosslinux.com/29117/south-korea-switching-their-3-3-million-pcs-to-linux.htm

The Japanese government has also considered switching to Linux, but has ultimately not done so: https://www.informationweek.com/software/japan-mulls-switch-to-linux-for-public-servants-data

As far as I know, Taiwan requires everything to be compatible with Linux, but they don't require Linux: https://www.zdnet.com/article/taiwan-mandates-linux-ready-pcs/

Russia has Astra Linux and a few other Linux systems that it uses frequently. In Germany, Norway, Spain, France, Italy, Romania, India, Turkey and many other countries, there are many major cities/government/schools/national broadcasters/police that use Linux for their desktop systems.

Linux also seems a logical choice in Africa, because the people there are already poor it is not nice to make them pay for proprietary software when there is equivalent or superior open source software available: https://www.infoworld.com/article/2681685/south-africa--nigeria-move-on-linux-adoption.html

The organizations have provided 35 Nigerian high schools with Internet access and other educational technologies built on Linux. Aside from that, they are helping to incorporate the study of Linux in the curriculum of those 35 high schools, Otokhine told the IDG News Service. Like South Africa the government is pursuing Linux because it finds it a cheaper alternative to Windows, according to Otokhine.
Linux itself is not a bad idea. Just obsolete, ill maintained forks of it are.

This gives me major Red Star OS vibes, surveillance included

You weren't the first.
 
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I wonder how much surveillance is built-in. I also wonder how long until the CCP rewrites history to claim that it invented this OS instead of basing it on something the West created.
 
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They wont add "telemetry" to this until after its developed substantially so as to not draw much attention to its "open source" data collection. :nutkick:
 
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I wonder how much surveillance is built-in. I also wonder how long until the CCP rewrites history to claim that it invented this OS instead of basing it on something the West created.
Is there much difference between Europe, US and China in that regard? I would say China is similar.
 
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