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Shuttle Debuts AMD Radeon Graphics in New Slim PC Solutions

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Shuttle Computer Handels GmbH, the European subsidiary of Shuttle Inc., one of the leading developers and manufacturers of compact PC solutions such as the world-renowned XPC Mini-PC Barebones, today announces the launch of the third generation of its award-winning and completely fanless XS35 model from their slim PC series.

"Even our dealers keep telling us how impressed they are with the quietness of this model," says Tom Seiffert, Head of Marketing & PR at Shuttle Computer Handels GmbH. "It's very rare that the elimination of a particular component has been greeted with such positive comments. However, we've certainly achieved this by doing away with the use of fans."

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Why am i the only one who thinks that these things look ridiculous? I mean who thought of this stupid butt ugly design of a thin box on a stand?! They all look like something casual worker designed during his lunch time...
 

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stand is not a good idea, the weight of the cables will unbalance it.

all those small holes are going to fill up with dust and hair too, and be near impossible to clean out once they do.
 
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stand is not a good idea, the weight of the cables will unbalance it.
You don't think they've haven't already thought about that?

And do you guy think when you say this? USB cables, ethernet, and hdmi cables they don't weigh much and have tons of give/flex. how would this possibly become unbalanced?

all those small holes are going to fill up with dust and hair too, and be near impossible to clean out once they do.
It's fanless, the only dust that will aggregate will be from gravity. $5 can of air is all it takes.
 
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It's retarded design. Such tiny boxes should have wall mounts or bottom side of the table mounts. What's the point of having such tiny thingie if you still have it on your desk!? And even if you do, give it quality silicone feet and place it horizontally on the far edge corner of the desk.
Apparently no one is thinking out of the box, they just expect everything to be on the desk.

I was ranting the same way over Linksys E4200 router. It's high performance, looks nice but they haven't given it wall mount holes. WHY THE HELL NOT!? It would look nice on the wall and away from cluttering my desk space. I have monitor and speakers already mounted on the wall, only thing that i still have on the desk is printer which obviously cannot be wall mounted and the before mentioned E4200 router.
 

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You don't think they've haven't already thought about that?

And do you guy think when you say this? USB cables, ethernet, and hdmi cables they don't weigh much and have tons of give/flex. how would this possibly become unbalanced?



It's fanless, the only dust that will aggregate will be from gravity. $5 can of air is all it takes.

i deal with systems on stands at work. those cables weigh a lot, especially in office or business environments where the cables are tied/locked in place. you end up with a rainbow arc of all your cables, and it looks stupid.

small PC's like this are meant to look clean and tidy, and it doesnt work when the cables are at the top of the unit. it just looks messy.
 
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stand is not a good idea, the weight of the cables will unbalance it.

all those small holes are going to fill up with dust and hair too, and be near impossible to clean out once they do.
I'm not here to defend them, and I also agree that the stand design is indeed a bad idea because as soon as you move one of the cables the thing will turn/move/fall down to the side, but I think the dust thing is not really an issue since it's fanless. I have a similar modem (a thin thing with holes on both sides) and it's pretty easy to keep it clean, just like how it is with all the other fanless hardware I have.
 
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It would be better to make a tiny cube out of it. It would take the same amount of space but it would have better cooling and it would be also way more stable. I mean Shuttle makes tiny box cases, why haven't they thought about it is beyond me.
 

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I'm not here to defend them, and I also agree that the stand design is indeed a bad idea because as soon as you move one of the cables the thing will turn/move/fall down to the side, but I think the dust thing is not really an issue since it's fanless. I have a similar modem (a thin thing with holes on both sides) and it's pretty easy to keep it clean, just like how it is with all the other fanless hardware I have.
my point wasnt about how fast dust and debris was going to gather - its just that if you look closely at it, its going to be extremely difficult to clean if and when it DOES gather.


i have to set up systems to withstand kitchen environments (PoS systems) that need to handle heat, oil, grease, flour, etc as well as living in a house with cats and dogs - and this PC would be suitable in neither situation.
 
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The Dell Optiplex 160 was nice. VESA mounted to your monitor and no external power brick. Unfortunately it was discontinued and not replaced by a newer model.

Oh well... I have a drill. Will make any ITX case VESA mountable ;)
 

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The Dell Optiplex 160 was nice. VESA mounted to your monitor and no external power brick. Unfortunately it was discontinued and not replaced by a newer model.

Oh well... I have a drill. Will make any ITX case VESA mountable ;)
Hehe... wanted to say the same thing, only about this Shuttle. It comes with a VESA stand, plus for all the rainbow haters, there are black cables sleeves. Do the work instead of complaining.
 
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Sorry, inflection lost from mind to post.

"VESA mounted to your monitor and no external power brick"

This Shuttle and other cases come close with their VESA mounts, but haven't grabbed me like the 160. Not even Lian-Li -- and I'm gay for Lian-Li! (it's too bulky).

I know exactly what I'm complaining about even if I don't articulate well :D
 
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I'm all for bashing bad designs. +1. I sometimes wonder if these Asian design teams operate in a HK or Taiwan windowless office trying to make something to fit a $5 budget... only for it to be sold as a premium product in the West.

What's needed is a nice stylish metal box that also acts as a heatsink. Apple can do it, tranquil PC can do it, hush can do it, but shuttle cant.
 

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Sorry, inflection lost from mind to post.

"VESA mounted to your monitor and no external power brick"

Picky... the thing is you can't have it all in one small box. A brick will offer you the benefit of moving a big heat source away from your desk, attach to it an extension cord and for all you care put it on the roof. Then there's its size and the thickness of a 220V/110V power cord. Nah, power brick on the floor...

Lian-Li? To cold for my taste.
 
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Except that the Optiplex 160 proves otherwise, as the heat of such a unit is negligible.

Dual headed power cables makes for a clean installation, powering both the monitor and the computer from a single cable
 
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Frankly, you don't need a 3x1,5 square cable for these tiny toys. A 3x0,75 square (hell, even 3x0,5 would probably be just fine) main power cable would do just fine. What is the power draw of these devices? Sub 50W ? Easily. And these cables are flexible and light enough not to be annoying.
But they always have to stick some oversized cables. These don't draw 1kW like high end PC's so i don't get it why such cables are needed.

It's like the netbook that i had. Adapter and cable from it to the netbook was tiny. But the part from adapter to the wall socket was so freakin massive it was twice the size of the whole thing. It looked ridiculous and clumsy carrying it around. And the power draw of that weak Atom powered netbook was 20W total under heavy load. I just don't understand why it was needed to attach a 3,2kW rated cable on a 20W netbook adapter. Stupid and pointless.
 
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Looks.....impractical
 

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i have to set up systems to withstand kitchen environments (PoS systems) that need to handle heat, oil, grease, flour, etc as well as living in a house with cats and dogs - and this PC would be suitable in neither situation.
I bet you those are more expensive than these are. Under €200 for the cheaper one is a very good price imo.

I'm all for bashing bad designs. +1. I sometimes wonder if these Asian design teams operate in a HK or Taiwan windowless office trying to make something to fit a $5 budget... only for it to be sold as a premium product in the West.

What's needed is a nice stylish metal box that also acts as a heatsink. Apple can do it, tranquil PC can do it, hush can do it, but shuttle cant.
This is not a premium product. I'm sure they could though if they put their minds to it.

It should be VESA compatible though without having to buy that mount kit.
 

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stand is not a good idea, the weight of the cables will unbalance it.

all those small holes are going to fill up with dust and hair too, and be near impossible to clean out once they do.
Yea, you would need to velcro this then to the desk... :toast: