So what does the Ada release by Nvidia mean to you

[Vayra86]

It was literally hundreds less than the cheapest 7900XT..

Though those have come down now..

This is a huge thing people tend to forget... local pricing / the deal you can snag is everything in the end, screw brand

 

[Belfaborac]

If nvidia wants to make the DIY graphics cards segment a niche one, they are fine to go on and see where it leads to...

What and where do you imagine it would lead to? It's already very much a niche market in terms of Nvidias revenue stream. It's a bit sad I guess, but the simple fact is that gamers don't really mean a thing to their bottom line.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Are you a journalists or "think tank researcher" that get's payed by 3-rd party to check what is public opinion on stuff ?

"Ada" is just another series that I will buy one or two cards from for 1/3 or lower than MSRP in few years.
In other words : Just another day in future of computers.

No I'm a technology enthusiast.

And a forum user.

I am interested in others viewpoint because it Does effect mine, and I mostly come here to learn(Tpu) what's new and so on, have done for years now but not just here.

As for your opinion.
That's not an opinion, it's a statement.

Like Ada is a GPU series.

Shorter but same, IE not an opinion.

Might as well have not bothered, are you a consultant is your opinion expensive?!?.

 

[agent_x007]

As for your opinion.
That's not an opinion, it's a statement.

Like Ada is a GPU series.

Shorter but same, IE not an opinion.

Might as well have not bothered, are you a consultant is your opinion expensive?!?.

Not sure I understand the difference between "opinion" and "statement" in Your context ?
My statement was clearly not "Ada is a series", it was comment after it which is my opinion on the matter.
You should read it as : "I don't care, I'll buy it eventually when it get's cheaper in few years".
EDIT : Voted "Other" to make this more usable to you

I'm not a consultant, but seeing quite a few poll threads you made, seemed to me like you were/are collecting information for cash (it's quite materialistic of me, I know...).
Still, "cloud sourcing opinions", tends to end quite badly especially when you do it openly.
Trolling, or mass lies are a thing people with anonymity will do out of pure boredom after all.
Hope you will find what you are looking for.

 

[R-T-B]

I voted "other."

Pretty simple other though. Tech is there, pricing on all of them is highly questionable at best.

 

[Belfaborac]

.Main point of dissapointment is that nvidia pushes useless DLSS

In what way is DLSS useless and why, if that's the case, does AMD push FSR?

Short answer - Meh. Next gpu will be from RED.

My next card will be from whoever makes the best card, or the card which best fills my needs or wants. Red vs Green is of exactly zero interest to me.

 

[Dr. Dro]

I chose other. Now that I have an Ada card, I'll come clean:

My initial takes on it were all valid. The price/performance ratio just isn't there against Ampere or RDNA 2. The entire product line is seriously cut down and it could be so much better, or at least priced so much better. They've all been designed for yield over performance, and that shows.

However, the technology is indeed here and the experience on Ada GPUs is simply refined. There's no other way to explain it than Todd Howard's classic "It Just Works", because that's what Ada does. It does the things it proposes very well, while being relatively very power efficient and supporting almost every single graphics tech under the sun with a high degree of stability. To that end, it cannot be faulted.

I'd say if you have the money, it's a positive experience, but not enough for me to tell it's a winning generation. The hardware is acceptable, the software support is superb, but the prices are way too rotten. I would say that hopefully, Blackwell releases with a more senseful price target (eg. 5090 for $999 MSRP), but it's simply not gonna happen I'm afraid.

 

[A&P211]

I would love to build a desktop but I'm no way in hell going to send a week's paycheck on a 4090 to get good performance vs last generation. That money goes into my retirement account so I can retire at 55. A 4080 are good but still expensive nothing under that are still expensive, the 4060ti isnt any better than a 3060ti.

 

[ixi]

In what way is DLSS useless and why, if that's the case, does AMD push FSR?



My next card will be from whoever makes the best card, or the card which best fills my needs or wants. Red vs Green is of exactly zero interest to me.

In what way DLSS is good?

Why I don't see DLSS as a good thing? We get lower raw performance of new cards while you get lower quality image against native view when using DLSS and additional to that you pay nvidia tax just for dlss option. Ohh, wait, it works only on nvidia, ohh, waaait again. It has already proven that 3xxx series are capable of using dlss 3.0 or what ever version is latest now, but they are limited to 2.0. I wonder why , to make 4xxx more appealing and get again from customer $.

About FSR - it works on all three brends, so clear winner is obvious.

 

[R-T-B]

In what way DLSS is good?

Why I don't see DLSS as a good thing? We get lower raw performance of new cards while you get lower quality image against native view when using DLSS and additional to that you pay nvidia tax just for dlss option. Ohh, wait, it works only on nvidia, ohh, waaait again. It has already proven that 3xxx series are capable of using dlss 3.0 or what ever version is latest now, but they are limited to 2.0. I wonder why , to make 4xxx more appealing and get again from customer $.

About FSR - it works on all three brends, so clear winner is obvious.

There are so many citations needed here, but this is the biggest.

 

[freeagent]

I would have loved to buy a 4080.. almost did. But it was hella cash after tax.. like 1800 Canadian Pesos. Saved 800 by buying the 4070 Ti

Do I regret it? Maybe just for the benchmarks.. but we got to go on a weeks vacation in the mountains instead

And.. I still dont trust AMD after my last experience with their GPUs. These guys talked sense into me by buying AM4 when I was ready to build a couple years ago.

And even now, AMD is doing great with GPU performance.. but it isnt all sunshine and lollipops with them for even just daily stuff.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

I would have loved to buy a 4080.. almost did. But it was hella cash after tax.. like 1800 Canadian Pesos. Saved 800 by buying the 4070 Ti

Imagine how disruptive the 4080 would have been this generation had they priced it like the 3080 or even 4070ti really.... It would have been interesting. I'm sure when AMD seen the actual price they where like thank god a 900 usd 7900XT isn't so bad lol.


I think the bottom line is as consumers we really got screwed this generation there are a bunch of cards that perform similarly with different strengths and weaknesses. Anyone who thinks either lineup is all that consumer friendly drinks too much Red/Green Koolaid but that's just me. It just doesn't seem as bad because the last 3+ years have been crap just different levels depending on when.

 

[Fluffmeister]

Ada means nothing to me, beyond confirming Nvidia are dominate in the dGPU market. On Steams hardware stats, the 4090/4080/4070/4060 are all above their competition.

Don't care really, just facts.

 

[AusWolf]

In what way is DLSS useless and why, if that's the case, does AMD push FSR?

In a way that if games were properly optimised and/or there was a proper performance uplift in current gen GPUs, then we wouldn't need it. Nvidia is pushing a technology that reduces visual quality instead of offering decent enough performance at a decent enough price and AMD is following the trend.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

In a way that if games were properly optimised and/or there was a proper performance uplift in current gen GPUs, then we wouldn't need it. Nvidia is pushing a technology that reduces visual quality instead of offering decent enough performance at a decent enough price and AMD is following the trend.

While I applaud Nvidia for the improvements they've made from DLSS 1 to now 3.5 to the point I actually prefer it in a lot of games over Native TAA the premium they make you pay is unfortunate. Unfortunately as time goes on I think these technologies will be mandatory in any game that pushes visuals beyond 15 year old techniques at the same time I do hope we don't get more Starfield scenarios where upscaling is almost required but with no noticeable visual improvements to go along with it.

 

[Belfaborac]

In what way DLSS is good?

It gives you moar frames when or if you need them.

Why I don't see DLSS as a good thing? We get lower raw performance of new cards while you get lower quality image against native view when using DLSS and additional to that you pay nvidia tax just for dlss option.

That's merely fanboi-talk and exactly nothing whatsoever to do with the technology. I didn't ask what you think about that horrid Green Monster's money-grabbing, I asked why DLSS is useless. Not the same thing.

About FSR - it works on all three brends, so clear winner is obvious.

Indeed it is, just as long as that particular aspect is all you care about.

In a way that if games were properly optimised and/or there was a proper performance uplift in current gen GPUs, then we wouldn't need it.

Again, that has nothing whatsoever to do with the technology in itself. All extraneous factors excepted, is DLSS a good thing or a bad thing?

 

[80251]

Peeps complain about Ada pricing but things were so bad w/ampere and the cryptocurrency mining shortage that even the pricing for the 4090 looks cheap by comparison.

 

[Belfaborac]

Yeah. I did pay less for my 6800 XT, but not by a whole hell of a lot.....

 

[freeagent]

Peeps complain about Ada pricing but things were so bad w/ampere and the cryptocurrency mining shortage that even the pricing for the 4090 looks cheap by comparison.

Lol yup, I paid like 1350CAD for my 3070Ti and 750w PSU bundle back when they were super rare.. I paid 1026 all in for my 4070 Ti. It isnt a stellar deal, but has been the new normal for a bit..

 

[Bobaganoosh]

Peeps complain about Ada pricing but things were so bad w/ampere and the cryptocurrency mining shortage that even the pricing for the 4090 looks cheap by comparison.

True, but two wrongs don't make a right lol. They took the shortage prices and just said "oh, you'll pay this much forever? Cool!" then they acted surprised when sales were below expectations. They seemed to also not understand that Ampere and AMD 6000 series were still good cards and that with the pandemic tons of people bought computers they spent good money on and thus wanted to last. So they launched overpriced cards into a saturated market of people not interested in getting bamboozled.

 

[Belfaborac]

So they launched overpriced cards into a saturated market of people not interested in getting bamboozled.

Not so sure about the last part, sadly. I'm sure they're not selling nearly as well as either Red or Green would like, but even though people rightly grumble and sling shit, they're still selling.

 

[JustBenching]

In what way DLSS is good?

Why I don't see DLSS as a good thing? We get lower raw performance of new cards while you get lower quality image against native view when using DLSS and additional to that you pay nvidia tax just for dlss option. Ohh, wait, it works only on nvidia, ohh, waaait again. It has already proven that 3xxx series are capable of using dlss 3.0 or what ever version is latest now, but they are limited to 2.0. I wonder why , to make 4xxx more appealing and get again from customer $.

About FSR - it works on all three brends, so clear winner is obvious.

So wrong, not even funny.

4k dlss quality has better image quality than 1440p native and offers similar framerate. End of story, if you are playing on native you have a subpar experience.

 

[AusWolf]

While I applaud Nvidia for the improvements they've made from DLSS 1 to now 3.5 to the point I actually prefer it in a lot of games over Native TAA the premium they make you pay is unfortunate. Unfortunately as time goes on I think these technologies will be mandatory in any game that pushes visuals beyond 15 year old techniques at the same time I do hope we don't get more Starfield scenarios where upscaling is almost required but with no noticeable visual improvements to go along with it.

Sure, but what about scrapping the Tensor cores, and using the now freed up die real estate for more traditional shaders and/or RT cores? Then we wouldn't need DLSS in the first place, and could have decent enough performance for native resolutions.

DLSS is like buying a car with square wheels, then redesigning the world's road infrastructure to fit cars with square wheels - a solution to a problem that shouldn't even exist.

 

[JustBenching]

Sure, but what about scrapping the Tensor cores, and using the now freed up die real estate for more traditional shaders and/or RT cores? Then we wouldn't need DLSS in the first place, and could have decent enough performance for native resolutions.

DLSS is like buying a car with square wheels, then redesigning the world's road infrastructure to fit cars with square wheels - a solution to a problem that shouldn't even exist.

As ive said before, I have a 27" 1440p screen and a 4k 27" screen (the dell ips black). I can tell you dlss q 4k looks so much better than 1440p native, I have no idea what you are saying. That's crazy talk.

 

[AusWolf]

Again, that has nothing whatsoever to do with the technology in itself. All extraneous factors excepted, is DLSS a good thing or a bad thing?

It is a bad thing because it lowers your image quality and promotes developer laziness.