Some tutorials needed

[thetarget]

So whats the lock frequency of my PCI bus? 35? I've set it to 4:5.

 

[Frogger]

Hey target just finished the days work can you post the list of of numbers you see on the pulldown from the cpu/memory ratio if you are currenttly at 139/35 try moving up the CPU/PCI frequency to ???/ 36 F10 and reboot see if ???/35 is still there or did move to ???/36 & post results

 

[thetarget]

Auto
1:1
4:3
4:5
4:6
i changed to 142/36 which is the first in the ???/36
and no 139/35 remains the same

 

[Frogger]

ok the cpu is now running at 2.5 with this setting 139/35 and the ratio at 4.5 right ... and when you moved it up to 142/36 you F10ed and rebooted... it remained at 139/35.... move ratio to 1:1 and the fsb to 124/36 repost with results and cpu speed F

 

[thetarget]

No change.... still 133/33 139/35 142/36... cannot find 124/??

 

[thetarget]

Ok for more info about my CPU/settings:

Pentium 4 2.4Ghz
Codename northwood
the CPU multiple is 18x
CPU:mem freq = 133/166

 

[Frogger]

Sometimes my mind works faster than my fingers
ment 142not 124

 

[Frogger]

move ratio to 1:1 and the fsb to 142/36 repost with results and cpu speed F..... I thought the core on your cpu was a Prescot not northwood...... Is the multiple locked at 18x or can you ajust it???.. If you can't change it keep moving the FSB up and rebooting till you reach 146/??....post new cpu speed & CPU/MEM ratio

 

[thetarget]

Err... OK you mean change my CPU/MEM ratio to 1:1 and move FSB up till 146/?? right?
I'll do it in a moment... and no i can't change the x18.

 

[thetarget]

I realised somthing.... I'm overclocking my Powercolor Ati Radeon 9550 @ 256mb/128bits
to 445/230 from 250/200... When the CPU/MEM ratio is 1:1... it simply hangs as I wouldn't go pass 270/200. Now I changed back to 4:5 with FSB running at 144/36, it works again... with CPU core speed now at 2.592Ghz.

Going to try for games.

 

[Frogger]

THE SLEEPER HAS AWAKEND I see that your getting the the concept I have been looking at your other posts I would suggest that you set the vid card to 1/2 of the highest clocks...... until you find a stable cpu / mem clock ... then set the cpu/mem clock down 1 or 2... then try to run up the vid card .... that way you won't have conflicts between and you will have a better idea of what clocks work and what causes the rig to hang[freeze]

 

[thetarget]

yeah ok.. done that.. now with 145/36 CPU going at 2.610 Ghz... going to put it to 1:1 146/37 later... wish me luck with the stability

 

[thetarget]

em... there is a problem now... I cannot put it to 1:1... it will crash my comp... even when starting windows... everything halts, even cursor won't respond. Last combination was 145/36... I am gogin for 146/37 without the 1:1 is this ok?

 

[thetarget]

146/37 gave me the BSOD the moment i boot up... Guess this is the max

 

[Frogger]

if you lock the ratio you might get it up to 2.7 with your current ram

like i said ..... so 2.6 is tops. the crash happens because the memory can't handle the /37 speed. can you access the memory speed through the "chip configuration " menu and slow down the memory speed...or try setting the ratio to 4:3 post results

 

[thetarget]

the CPU/MEM freq settings are set to 133/166 in the jumpers i think... do you think that will work?

 

[Frogger]

Been a couple months that i'v seen one of those MBs... been work from what i can recall but you should be able to to that in bios you would have to read the manual to see abuot onboard jumpers

 

[thetarget]

That would be the worst scenerio Lol... I hate messing with those 'sticks'... I'll give BIOS a try and see what's next

 

[thetarget]

Just moved up to 146/37... did what you told me... CPU/MEM 4:3... think it worked...

I'm wondering... is it everytime you moved up ur FSB... you have need to think about the CPU/MEM ratio... like now it's FSB 146.... my RAM is 133 or 166. If set to 4:3, is it related to 146/133? Lol...

 

[Frogger]

I'm wondering... is it everytime you moved up ur FSB... you have need to think about the CPU/MEM ratio... like now it's FSB 146.... my RAM is 133 or 166. If set to 4:3, is it related to 146/133? Lol... That's it dude in the 4:3 for every clock count on the cpu[4] the memory only records[3]clocks so you can run the cpu higher without crashing the ram ... if you could get a ratio of 5:3 you can continue to move higher mabe ???/ 39or 40 that's why i said to enter the 'chip config' menu to see if you can acess the memory SPD and turn it of to 'manually configure the ram settings os open that menu and post what you see there ... like i said i'm doing this for my memory and at my age it don't work so good [to many bottles of jack daniels & other stuff]

 

[thetarget]

Ok this is what I see in the page

CAS 2T 2.5T
RAS to CAS Delay 3T 2T 4T
RAS Prechange 3T 2T 4T
RAS Active 6T 7T 5T 4T
Command lead-off Auto 1T 2T

underline ones are the current configuration

 

[Frogger]

nothing there you can use ....see how high you can push the fsb/pci at 4:3 when you reach the max[rig crashes on boot] set down 1 level and try setting ratio to 5:4 if it boots check if stable ... if stable move fsb/pci up again and see if it will boot post new cpu speed

 

[thetarget]

btw i don't have 5:4

 

[Frogger]

my f'in fingers again 4:5 sorry

 

[thetarget]

Lol... it's ok... Em... i think i have to say this... Just now... i've been playing X3 and lord of the rings... My Gfx card is at default settings... Halfway through the games.. it hanged....

Restart and retry and it appears the same...