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Sony PlayStation 4 Codenamed "Orbis", Runs AMD x86-64 CPU, Southern Islands GPU

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#76
Doubt it. Last gen console was a NV "7800" series GPU. Why would sony of all companies cheap out? I am betting a full fledged chip with the core clock dropped to save power.
Vita is quite cheap as Sony products go. My money on Pitcairn silicon (7800 series), since that they should offer decent performance (comes within 10% of 7970) at a reasonable price point, on top of being simpler to mass produce. Also, their reworked API should boost even more processing power still. With Newegg selling 7850 at about $250, I think we will be seeing Orbis at about $400 starting price.
 
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#77
4k by 2k res and the fact that when console originally release they usually are actually pretty damn good, I would put money down on you being wrong. Doesn't mean I will buy a PS4 at release, I just think you hunch is off by a long shot.
I hope you're right.
 
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watch it cost $700
 
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i want to see an APU with integrated crossfire for PS4... i hope sony and AMD will do it, it will be the first console with dual GPU... hehehehe
 

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#80
who cares. sony treats their customers like shit.
 

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#81
Then why are most games single-threaded when the xbox has a six core cpu? (IIRC)
"Most games" on what platform? A lot of the PC games I play will use 4 cores but won't load the CPU to more than about 25% (they're GPU heavy).
 

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Maybe it will have that HSA feature AMD has been talking about in their next gen(next year) APUs.
 
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who cares. sony treats their customers like shit.
While this may be true I only care about the PC ports... lol. So, I kinda care.
 
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Don't care, i'm not backing down from people too lazy to google and thinking AMD in some consoles makes up for a pathetic server division.
I know you, you are the one who got banned from Fudzilla.com for trolling, keep up the good work.
 
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#87
Well either way this means one thing...the next console gen will be designed to get Sony/M$/Nintendo a return back on the hardware sooner. Xbox will have a midrange GPU, Wii U will have an older 4800 series based GPU, and the PS4 will now use AMD CPU + GPU which could possibly by a special APU design.

This is a huge change from the original reports of Sony looking to Intel for the PS4. Very glad that was changed. Intel still hasn't shown they can provide a competitive graphics option.

Using AMD x86 will also work better for porting. Could maybe see PC games scale better and become easier to port.

This is of course good in some ways but bad in others. Longevity of the console will be cut. Devs will likely try to ride out visuals even longer like they did with this current gen. No matter what I hear or read about people that say there is still more power to be tapped from these current gen, I don't believe it. I've seen more titles with borderline fps than I have not. It keeps getting worse the more they push the hardware. Can the hardware do it, yes. Can it do it and be playable? Now you are in the grey area.
 
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Performance-wise the HD7770 is about 3.5-4 times faster then PS3's GPU
You must be kidding.

The hd7770 is much more faster than that.
 
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#89
Well either way this means one thing...the next console gen will be designed to get Sony/M$/Nintendo a return back on the hardware sooner. Xbox will have a midrange GPU, Wii U will have an older 4800 series based GPU, and the PS4 will now use AMD CPU + GPU which could possibly by a special APU design.

This is a huge change from the original reports of Sony looking to Intel for the PS4. Very glad that was changed. Intel still hasn't shown they can provide a competitive graphics option.

Using AMD x86 will also work better for porting. Could maybe see PC games scale better and become easier to port.

This is of course good in some ways but bad in others. Longevity of the console will be cut. Devs will likely try to ride out visuals even longer like they did with this current gen. No matter what I hear or read about people that say there is still more power to be tapped from these current gen, I don't believe it. I've seen more titles with borderline fps than I have not. It keeps getting worse the more they push the hardware. Can the hardware do it, yes. Can it do it and be playable? Now you are in the grey area.
I'm also sure it will be an APU, so i don't expect a bad ass gpu like the 7970. A cape verde based gpu is more likely and a 8 core cpu (4 module).
 
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Just because it's based on southern islands doens't mean it's going to be high end. I bet they put a cheapo 70 dollar one in there.
I take that bet, and I raise you another 100. :toast:
 
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SecuROM D.R.M sony made this evil for us p.c. gamers E.A games use it for p.c. games
That's a lot of abbreviations.
 
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"Orbis" is very unoriginal.

360 is a full circle.

Orbis is a circle.

Yawn. How many years late copycat is that?
 

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#94
"Orbis" is very unoriginal.

360 is a full circle.

Orbis is a circle.

Yawn. How many years late copycat is that?
Xbox360 is reference to Sony's controllers. I fail to see your point.
 
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#97
They're both gaming consoles that you use a controller to use and that you connect to a TV. Sounds like two different products that do the same thing. Saying that one copied the other is most likely partially true, but when I actually used to play 360 games, I decided on the 360 over the PS3 because I liked the games for the platform better. As an end user, I don't really care if M$ and Sony copy each other, they can duke it out as much as they want. :p
 

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#98
They'll still be half-baked because most games are ported from Xbox, not PlayStation, because of the reliance on DirectX. Additionally, consoles always have limited resoures especially in terms of RAM and that severely limits environment size and the like. Can't forget the lack of mouse and keyboard too. Expect the same-old-same.
You are correct, however they port from the Xbox because it is the closest to the PC. If the PS4 becomes the closest thing to the PC, then they will start porting from that. The path of least resistance. Still doesn't mean the ports will be good, for various reasons, some of which you covered...
 
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#99
I'm willing to bet a dual thread CPU with around 500 GNC cores paired with either very high speed DDR3 or a rejigged memory controller using GDDR5.