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SSD and unsafe shutdowns

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Unlike HDDs how can this harm SSD's ?.

Reason i ask is that i used 2 Intel x25's for about 2 weeks now and intels program is reporting unsafe shutdowns and i only know of one which was due to a game screwing up.

Whats a bit more odd but could be explained by the SSD being turned of due to not being idle is one says it's had 20 unsafe shutdowns and the other 23.

It's bothering me due to what it's going be saying as after 2 years for example, and maybe effect the warranty ?.

Just noticed another thing

SSD 1(OS) has been on for 243 hours
SSD 2 (Games) has been on for 106 hours

SSD 1(OS) Power cycle count 120
SSD 2 (Games) Power cycle count 123

The unsafe and other numbers dont make such sense as both drives were brought and installed at the same time.
 

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I didn't think unsafe shutdowns affected SSD's at all. It could be intel just covering their ass. I'm scared my SSD will wear out after the warrenty as well and I've had alot of unsafe restarts.
 

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I didn't think unsafe shutdowns affected SSD's at all. It could be intel just covering their ass. I'm scared my SSD will wear out after the warrenty as well and I've had alot of unsafe restarts.
Maybe MS are to blame for them ?.

What worry's me maybe they can say the drives been misused. Actually thinking of turning smart off lol.
 

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Maybe MS are to blame for them ?.

What worry's me maybe they can say the drives been misused. Actually thinking of turning smart off lol.
Unlikely they could reject them on that basis.
 

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It's not like shutting down your machine will kill your HD, it may mess up your filesystem though. Which applies to any media, if the cache isn't written and you turn the machine off data is lost. Modern filesystems don't get corrupted that way though. FAT, for instance, can.
 

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Unlikely they could reject them on that basis.
I hope not.

It's not like shutting down your machine will kill your HD, it may mess up your filesystem though. Which applies to any media, if the cache isn't written and you turn the machine off data is lost. Modern filesystems don't get corrupted that way though. FAT, for instance, can.
Yeah i know that. But why is it recording unsafe shutdowns when they should not be. Who or what is to blame here intel or MS or the user ?. But i can in my case at least say it's not my fault.

Maybe there is a way to solve it ?.