Stutters in every game i play

[wheresmycar]

I have, I downloaded the adrenaline software off the manufacturers site then downloaded the latest drivers from the software itself. And yes my bios was successfully updated, sorry I should have specified.

I edited the previous post with the addition:

If you had a different graphics card before, use Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU) to wipe out any old drivers. Leftover drivers can mess with your current setup and cause FPS drops. Boot into Safe Mode, run DDU to clean the old drivers, then restart and install fresh ones for your Radeon 6650XT from AMD’s website. If, any this should help fix any conflicts.

 

[ShrimpBrime]

Going by the screenshots from HWmontior, it looks like your running your ram at 4800MT/s cause' those voltages don't match ram at 6400Mt/s, no way a system will boot with 1.110v VDDQ for that speed!
You need to reconfigure your ram for the speed its built for otherwise your wasting performance.

I would want to confirm that by using HWInfo64 instead.
Setting XMP would automatically set the DRAM VDD/Q.
And perhaps just to be sure, ask if the memory is installed in slots A2 and B2.

 

[c2DDragon]

Link state power management was off I will try moderate and maximum and where could I find C1E in bios? Also what is that pl1 and pl2 representing?


I’ve tried changing the frequency in bios but my cpu can only support so many mhz so put it back to default bc I noticed no improvement with stuttering when the ram was set to it’s advertised speed

PL1 = The maximum power in Watts your CPU can draw in the long run and PL2 = The maximum your CPU can draw in the short time in Watts.
The easiest and safest way to check what are your CPU PL1 & PL2 default settings is to check the Intel website : https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...600kf-processor-20m-cache-up-to-4-90-ghz.html

Those are the PL1 & PL2 default, safe, settings. If you don't plan to overclock, you better use those numbers.

If your power plan got the link state to OFF I guess it's not that. It should be on moderate by default I think if you just use the default power plan and not the hidden one.

C1E is somewhere in the advanced CPU settings, where you can find C-State.
It's about making cores sleep in a aggressivly way so you get more latency when Windows wake them up, it should be OFF by default but who knows.

If you didn't try, you could disable the Windows core parking but this shouldn't be messing with your games.

EDIT : I failed with the CPU screen & link

 

[bmeeke]

I edited the previous post with the addition:

If you had a different graphics card before, use Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU) to wipe out any old drivers. Leftover drivers can mess with your current setup and cause FPS drops. Boot into Safe Mode, run DDU to clean the old drivers, then restart and install fresh ones for your Radeon 6650XT from AMD’s website. If, any this should help fix any conflicts.

I just used ddu to wipe any existing nvidia files should I wipe the amd ones as well and just do a fresh install entirely.

PL1 = The maximum power in Watts your CPU can draw in the long run and PL2 = The maximum your CPU can draw in the short time in Watts.
The easiest and safest way to check what are your CPU PL1 & PL2 default settings is to check the Intel website : https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...600kf-processor-20m-cache-up-to-4-90-ghz.html

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Those are the PL1 & PL2 default, safe, settings. If you don't plan to overclock, you better use those numbers.

If your power plan got the link state to OFF I guess it's not that. It should be on moderate by default I think if you just use the default power plan and not the hidden one.

C1E is somewhere in the advanced CPU settings, where you can find C-State.
It's about making cores sleep in a aggressivly way so you get more latency when Windows wake them up, it should be OFF by default but who knows.

If you didn't try, you could disable the Windows core parking but this shouldn't be messing with your games.

EDIT : I failed with the CPU screen & link

okay I’ll head into the bios and let you know what I see. I’ll use that last suggestion as a final resort)

I would want to confirm that by using HWInfo64 instead.
Setting XMP would automatically set the DRAM VDD/Q.
And perhaps just to be sure, ask if the memory is installed in slots A2 and B2.

slots are in A2 and B2 and could you elaborate on what exactly it is you would want to confirm with HWinfo

 

[c2DDragon]

I just used ddu to wipe any existing nvidia files should I wipe the amd ones as well and just do a fresh install entirely.


okay I’ll head into the bios and let you know what I see. I’ll use that last suggestion as a final resort)

You could try to use DDU but it's a meh thing for real.
Just grab the AMD Cleanup utility and clean your drivers : https://drivers.amd.com/drivers/amdcleanuputility.exe (source : https://www.amd.com/en/resources/support-articles/faqs/GPU-601.html)
Then install yours or the new ones :

Latest AMD Radeon Graphics Drivers 25.6.3 Beta Download

Download the latest AMD Radeon drivers for best game performance, compatibility and to fix driver issues. Radeon Adrenalin comes with a completely

www.techpowerup.com

 

[Launcestonian]

I would want to confirm that by using HWInfo64 instead.
Setting XMP would automatically set the DRAM VDD/Q.
And perhaps just to be sure, ask if the memory is installed in slots A2 and B2.

Yep, but the data is what we have atm. There's a reason why HWiNFO is so popular with enthusiasts & even big tech companies.

 

[Carlyle2020hs]

Thanks for the HWMonitor screenshots.
The minimum and maximum values often help with diagnostics.
But you have to run a stresstest before you make the screenshot next time please.

And just to be on the safe side: are you sure your ssd makes good contact to the thermal pad (all along its length) and doesen´t bow?

 

[ShrimpBrime]

I just used ddu to wipe any existing nvidia files should I wipe the amd ones as well and just do a fresh install entirely.


okay I’ll head into the bios and let you know what I see. I’ll use that last suggestion as a final resort)


slots are in A2 and B2 and could you elaborate on what exactly it is you would want to confirm with HWinfo

The actual physical memory sticks that are installed into the motherboard. They must be in slots A2 and B2. That's the 2nd and 4th furthest from the CPU/Heatsink area.

HWInfo64 is typically much more accurate than HWMonitor, often times many people confuse the two.

After you install it, just tick "sensors only" and you will have accurate readout of everything. Not just some things that aren't accurate

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www.hwinfo.com

 

[bmeeke]

The actual physical memory sticks that are installed into the motherboard. They must be in slots A2 and B2. That's the 2nd and 4th furthest from the CPU/Heatsink area.

HWInfo64 is typically much more accurate than HWMonitor, often times many people confuse the two.

After you install it, just tick "sensors only" and you will have accurate readout of everything. Not just some things that aren't accurate

Free Download HWiNFO Sofware | Installer & Portable for Windows, DOS

Start to analyze your hardware right now! HWiNFO has available as an Installer and Portable version for Windows (32/64-bit) and Portable version for DOS.

www.hwinfo.com

I will post HWinfo ss when I get a second to sit down

Thanks for the HWMonitor screenshots.
The minimum and maximum values often help with diagnostics.
But you have to run a stresstest before you make the screenshot next time please.

And just to be on the safe side: are you sure your ssd makes good contact to the thermal pad (all along its length) and doesen´t bow?

have not gone as far to check internal components other than if my ram is seated properly

You could try to use DDU but it's a meh thing for real.
Just grab the AMD Cleanup utility and clean your drivers : https://drivers.amd.com/drivers/amdcleanuputility.exe (source : https://www.amd.com/en/resources/support-articles/faqs/GPU-601.html)
Then install yours or the new ones :

Latest AMD Radeon Graphics Drivers 25.6.3 Beta Download

Download the latest AMD Radeon drivers for best game performance, compatibility and to fix driver issues. Radeon Adrenalin comes with a completely

www.techpowerup.com

just used the cleanup utility and reinstalled drivers will update you if anything has changed

The actual physical memory sticks that are installed into the motherboard. They must be in slots A2 and B2. That's the 2nd and 4th furthest from the CPU/Heatsink area.

HWInfo64 is typically much more accurate than HWMonitor, often times many people confuse the two.

After you install it, just tick "sensors only" and you will have accurate readout of everything. Not just some things that aren't accurate

Free Download HWiNFO Sofware | Installer & Portable for Windows, DOS

Start to analyze your hardware right now! HWiNFO has available as an Installer and Portable version for Windows (32/64-bit) and Portable version for DOS.

www.hwinfo.com

 

[ShrimpBrime]

I will post HWinfo ss when I get a second to sit down


have not gone as far to check internal components other than if my ram is seated properly


just used the cleanup utility and reinstalled drivers will update you if anything has changed


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Thanks for that. Is in Correct slots.
XMP is not enabled from the looks of it.

I re-read your original post and statements. My recommendation would be a new fresh windows install. It will update without being registered. You can DL all the latest drivers from the motherboard's website, which you mentioned you get an error, I assume through windows update. If windows update errors, that makes me believe the Operating system is old, hot swapped from a different rig, or there's other software anomalies we can't see.

But so far, it seems your hardware is just fine.
But, some people report turning of HT gets rid of stutters, and other people report turning off e-cores gets rid of stutters. If neither do the trick, I would do a fresh windows install for sure.

 

[eidairaman1]

Hpet is high performance evaluation timer

 

[Apocalypsee]

Can't hurt to try this, it helps me with random stutter on my laptop

revisiting hpet bcdedit tweaks: what are your timer bench results and settings?

only for advanced users: be aware that once settings are defined by bcdedit these can cause irreversible changes and damage to your system such as low fps and stuttering until windows is reinstalled! currently im in the process of revisiting some supposed tweaks for hpet and their implications...

www.techpowerup.com

 

[tommesfps]

Troubleshooting can be a time consuming task, if you don't exactly have a clue where to start, this has to be considered.
So, a fresh install of Windows is something that's common and most of the time required. But it is not only the fresh OS install, make sure you do driver installations step by step to check whether the system is corrupted by a bad driver. For example, if the installed audio driver is bad and the 3D application is waiting for the audio part the GPU is slowed down with it. Same with the network driver. I would say compared to other troubles that driver issues cant be seen that often, but the strange behavior of your system points towards it.
Sure, if the hardware controller of let's say the SSD or DRAM is defective in some way it could present the same kind of behavior.

The reason no one gave you advice on Reddit and why you won't get much advice here is because you're description of the problem gives exactly one lead and it sounds like you know what to do about it.

I strongly believe that you have no idea what you are even talking about...

 

[agent_x007]

not to sure what I’m looking for when it comes to scores, kept HWmonitor up whilst running the tests, GPU saw a max of 89celcius and the CPU saw a max of 65celcius.

How high did "Hot spot" went ?

 

[Laurijan]

could it be as simple as using to high settings for that GPU? with my rtx 4070 12gb when i run our of vram the games literally disintegrate to unplayable.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

@bmeeke You should check your latency with LatencyMon maybe you have the issue with audio or network drivers or something else is the issue that causing latency on your PC it's worth a try because the symptoms you described are also very similar with people that experienced latency problems...GL

 

[wheresmycar]

I just used ddu to wipe any existing nvidia files should I wipe the amd ones as well and just do a fresh install entirely.

So you did have existing Nvidia drivers installed. There is a good chance the problem you're having is possibly a driver conflict.

Yes. Get rid of all existing graphics drivers. Use DDU in windows safe mode. Once done, restart to Windows (normal mode) and then download the AMD driver again > https://www.amd.com/en/support/download/drivers.html

If this doesn’t solve the issue, I would recommend doing a fresh install of Windows. This will eliminate potential causes such as driver issues, software conflicts, incorrect settings, corrupted OS files, malware, or registry errors. If the problem persists after a clean install, you can then focus on hardware or hardware initialization settings