System upgrade advice needed

[E-one]

I was wondering if it’s time to upgrade my CPU, motherboard and RAM and whether I get any meaningful benefits out of this. I’d like to be economical and practical about it but at the same time get better performance compared to my current system otherwise there’s no point in spending money and get the same result.

So I was thinking about combination of Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming motherboard with Ryzen 7 3700x CPU. There’s one thing I don’t like on this motherboard, which is how M.2 heatsinks are implemented that require removal of chipset shroud. I also consider Gigabyte X570 Aorus Ultra motherboard for it has 3 M.2 slots and better implementation of their heatsinks. But I have no idea about the quality of Gigabyte’s motherboards, UEFI and customer support as I’ve always used Asus motherboards and got accustomed to their products and ecosystem.

I’m not sure if my current RAM will work with these motherboards and CPU and if not, what speeds would you recommend, what capacity and how many modules should I get, two or four. Will 32GB be of any use for me and in the near future and should I get 4x8GB or 2x16GB modules?

Will my current CPU cooler be sufficient for Ryzen 7 3700x? If not, I still have my 3-years old Corsair H110i AIO cooler, which I actually consider selling while it lasts and get something like Noctua NH-D15 Chromax Black or NH-U12A if my current CPU cooler is insufficient.

If this whole idea of upgrading currently not worth it, I was wondering if the next generation of Ryzen CPUs get even better. The way I understand it, this new 7nm manufacturing process brings new challenges and to me it looks like the entire platform has too many ‘rough edges’ like CPUs not being able to hit higher clocks, for instance. I also don’t particularly like active cooling (fan) on chipset. It’s one more source of noise, one more thing to get broken over time. Most of these fans are close or directly under the graphics card expelling hot air. I wonder if already next generation of motherboards will do without active cooling and most importantly, be cheaper than current generation.

And I’m not sure if there’s anything better to expect from the next generation of Intel CPUs in terms of price/performance and platform innovation. Correct me if I’m wrong.

I’ve been able to achieve sustainable under any workload overclock for my CPU at 4,7GHz on all cores leaving all other settings including core voltage on ‘auto’. Temperatures under load (Cinebench R20, Asus RealBench, gaming) rarely get to 75 degrees Celsius max.

I game at 1440p resolution and in such titles as ‘Deus Ex: Mankind Divided’, ‘Shadow of the Tomb Raider’ my FPS hover around 90s with DX12 and around 70s with occasional dips to 60s with DX11 with all the graphics settings at max.

Occasionally I do some light photo editing/retouching after scanning my photo negatives from the past, I digitize my CDs, DVDs and some Blu-Rays, which sometimes require format conversion. Blu-Ray conversion actually takes hours with this CPU but I rarely do this.

So these are my thoughts. Any comments and suggestions are highly welcome!

Thank you in advance!

 

[PLSG08]

3700X is an amazing Proc for the price imo, and even if the new Zen Cpus come next year It'll only be a little improvement that isn't really noticeable for a lot of people.

For mobos I personally trust Asus even tho they're not the best of the best. I've heard of Good things from MSi's mobos but I personally never had any experience with them. Gigabyte is kinda hit or miss sometimes and i don't really like their Bios compared to the others. ASrock is another good choice and so far I love my B450M steel legend.

For RAM the sweet spot for ryzen 3rd gen is C16 3600 iirc (correct me if I'm wrong). Your stick would work fine but Ryzen benefits a lot from memory speed and since you are upgrading might as well get a new set of sticks to go with them. I'd suggest G.Skill sticks as from most people I know they work generally out of the box with no hiccups.

H110i is ok for the CPU, and you might get a good OC from it, but since its 3 yrs old I'd just get that NH-D15 for peace of mind since its new and its an air cooler ( I trust air coolers more than AIOs lmao)

IMO its kinda hard to suggest intel atm as their products are pretty underwhelming compared to AMD. At least AMD now has Gen4 support and cores that are more than enough for everyone. Whats good about AMD is they age like "Fine Wine" My 2600 is pretty amazing since I got it for a steal and I wouldn't upgrade in the foreseeable future.

 

[ne6togadno]

buy decent 16gb 3600mhz ram kit and 1tb nvm-e ssd as they are cheap now.
leave cpu upgrade for earliest mid next year.
you wont see much better fps from what you have atm

check the table from latest vga test. 2070s - 94.3 fps with 9900k. 3700x will offer you almost the same performance

 

[E-one]

I decided to make an upgrade. For the motherboard I chose MSI MEG X570 UNIFY, which is practically a barebone MSI MEG X570 ACE. And this Black Friday I was able to buy Ryzen 7 3800x for the price of 3700x. Now I have another dilemma.

I’m looking for compatible memory modules. I’d like to fill all 4 memory slots mostly from aesthetical point of view. But I was wondering if it will have some negative effect as opposed to using only 2 memory slots especially after reading warnings about using all 4 slots instead of 2 on X570 motherboards as well as seeing ASRock recommendations here: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-3000-cpus-memory-recommendations-asrock,39756.html . I’d like to buy DDR4-3200 memory kit consisting of 4 memory sticks 8GB each. Will it also matter whether memory sticks are single-rank or dual-rank? I’m not planning to manually overclock the memory and will only apply XMP memory profile. It’s also likely that I won’t see much benefit from manually overclocking the CPU.

I narrowed my search down to the following kit, which is in MSI’s QVL and marked as suitable for filling all 4 memory slots on this motherboard or at least that’s how I interpret their QVL:

Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3200MHz C16 (SKU: CMK32GX4M4B3200C16W).

Can I be sure I won’t have any problems with motherboard or CPU accepting this memory kit? Will it have any negative impact on performance when using XMP memory profile as opposed to using memory of the same capacity consisting of 2 memory modules with exactly the same timings (Corsair, SKU: CMK32GX4M2B3200C16W)? Which one is better from performance and stability point of view or are they equally good? So far MSI didn’t give me a straight answer.

 

[Deleted member 185158]

Generally speaking more DIMMs the harder it is on the IMC>

3200mhz is too slow. Look for 3600mhz so you can get that performance.

 

[A Computer Guy]

I decided to make an upgrade. For the motherboard I chose MSI MEG X570 UNIFY, which is practically a barebone MSI MEG X570 ACE. And this Black Friday I was able to buy Ryzen 7 3800x for the price of 3700x. Now I have another dilemma.

I’m looking for compatible memory modules. I’d like to fill all 4 memory slots mostly from aesthetical point of view. But I was wondering if it will have some negative effect as opposed to using only 2 memory slots especially after reading warnings about using all 4 slots instead of 2 on X570 motherboards as well as seeing ASRock recommendations here: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-3000-cpus-memory-recommendations-asrock,39756.html . I’d like to buy DDR4-3200 memory kit consisting of 4 memory sticks 8GB each. Will it also matter whether memory sticks are single-rank or dual-rank? I’m not planning to manually overclock the memory and will only apply XMP memory profile. It’s also likely that I won’t see much benefit from manually overclocking the CPU.

I narrowed my search down to the following kit, which is in MSI’s QVL and marked as suitable for filling all 4 memory slots on this motherboard or at least that’s how I interpret their QVL:

Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3200MHz C16 (SKU: CMK32GX4M4B3200C16W).

Can I be sure I won’t have any problems with motherboard or CPU accepting this memory kit? Will it have any negative impact on performance when using XMP memory profile as opposed to using memory of the same capacity consisting of 2 memory modules with exactly the same timings (Corsair, SKU: CMK32GX4M2B3200C16W)? Which one is better from performance and stability point of view or are they equally good? So far MSI didn’t give me a straight answer.

Just FYI there seems to be issues with ver 4.32 kits with similar SKU's to the ones you listed. There is no way to know what version kit you will get if you can't physically inspect the package and see the model and version displayed though the window on the package. If you do get a Corsair ver 4.32 kit you may need to bump tRC between +2 and +6 to get it to work properly with Ryzen. I had to do this with my CMW32GX4M2C3200C16 (ver 4.32) kit and then it worked fine and others on Corsair forums reported similar success.