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Tech in schools proving useless

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The oceans are becoming emptified (just made that word up)
This ones not right though, with climate change, it will be the opposite.

Haha, got your point though, in the aftermath of the second world war, people were optimists, then the cloud of the iron curtain came and threw in doom, now its terrorists! I guess its what drives people forward. Fear.
 
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@Hoss : You brought kids into this world because they are the single most precious thing you will ever have. You will teach them life is not fair and they are going to have to work and fight for what they feel is right, and you are going to watch them grow-up and become self-sufficient.
When you watch them leave the home to follow thier own dreams, you will be more proud of them than anyone without children could ever imagine.
There is nothing else like it.
You are right and I love the way you put it, but I fear for their future.
 
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Hedonism is eating to western kids. Cut their facebook/smartphone/fancy-clothes BS. Reintroduce school uniform code, reintroduce corporal punishments, reintroduce mark/rank-based merit assessment system. Problem solved. What western educators are doing is the exact opposite. They think drenching kids into unregulated technology that can entertain more than educate and liberalising school life will somehow make kids smarter. No! It will make them hedonistic at a very young age. It will put them on path to an unsustainable life.
What the heck?

I understand bringing back some of the punishments to the school system. Having run through the US public school system myself, I know that often the only discipline is internal from the value system you've installed in yourself. In other words, the school didn't discipline me, I disciplined myself.

This said, you've gone a bit off the deep end. In India school is a priviledge, in the US it's basically cheap babysitting. We will have to pay for this idiocy sooner or later....


I think it's more a sign that US schools are failing than more tech not helping.
Agreed. No child left behind, then the litany of hate that followed, damaged the US. Our school systems have been on the decline for years, but parents are unwilling to allow teachers to met out punishment. Having no consequences, in the child's perception at least, breeds children that don't feel that education is a priviledge. This will be the downfall of the public education system in the long run.

Using presentation devices in a classroom as a teaching tool has been around for decades. For instance, showing a historical documentary (movie) and then initiating discourse to get the students thinking, or using overhead projectors.

Tech for the sake of making things easier for the students should not be used unless the student(s) can prove they can accomplish the same task without the device.

Just my opinion.
Dang skippy. I remember watching VHS tapes to understand WWII, human biology, and scince. Technology made a textbook fit into a couple of videos, and gave me a less dry way of learning.

On the other hand, I've experienced "movie days" whenever a teacher was too lazy, or didn't want to broach the next subject. Technology doesn't teach children.

Either a teacher makes the subject interesting enough for the student to want to teach themselves, or they ram the subject down a student's mouth to supress the gag reflex. Any other teaching methodology is going to fall flat, because the knowledge isn't interesting enough or ingrained deeply enough.

Some students fall into the self teaching category. You have gifted and talented programs for them. The students on the opposite end go to special classes and get attention from negative actions. Those students in the middle are without either attention, and flounder.

I guess this author (cited article for this thread, not those that comment) thought that tech would be the magical panacea that gave those in the middle the attention they actually deserved. Looking at this problem wholistically; unless the tech is the nannybot 9000, and allowed to deliver negative and positive reinforcement, it won't come anywhere close to solving the problem
 
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Id batter the teacher who hit my child (if i had one), its unregulated abuse, regulated abuse would be even worse as that's borderline fascism.

There is always a reason a child is a little shit, they don't just do things for no reason. You need to tackle a root problem not just beat a child, if you just hit them they don't learn its wrong to misbehave they learn not to get caught or they take out the abuse on other children in the playground or carry it into the home.

Ill batter your children see how you like it chances are you wont and i will be arrested for assault and child abuse. Cynical? no not really as to me that's the hard cold facts. If corporal punishment was so great in the first place why was it abolished? THINK ABOUT IT FOR A MOMENT. Also you act like most children are out of control when its a tiny percentage that could be dealt with in other manners.
 

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You are right and I love the way you put it, but I fear for their future.
You worry no more than any other good parent who has gone before you or will come after.

The purpose of a school is to educate your children in what they will need to be able to compete in the job market successfully and/or continue on to get an advanced degree is a specialized discipline.
It is not there to babysit kids because the parents have no interest in doing that themselves. Unfortunately, that is not the reality especially in many urban public schools.

Schools, especially elementary schools and high schools, should not be wasting time or money teaching social agendas and other BS. It is the parents job to raise the kids, not the school's.

If a child is neglected, undisciplined and left to run amock, no amount of tech in a school is going to make any difference.

Again, just my opinion. :)
 
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Hedonism is eating to western kids. Cut their facebook/smartphone/fancy-clothes BS. Reintroduce school uniform code, reintroduce corporal punishments, reintroduce mark/rank-based merit assessment system. Problem solved. What western educators are doing is the exact opposite. They think drenching kids into unregulated technology that can entertain more than educate and liberalising school life will somehow make kids smarter. No! It will make them hedonistic at a very young age. It will put them on path to an unsustainable life.
+1 Agreed
 
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I was told to never use my brain and only use my calculator, eventually i went from perfect math grades to mediocre grades. Since then I made it my mission to avoid educational establishments and try to learn everything by myself. That being said, google, and the internet as a whole has actually taught me more about this world and its history more than school has.
 
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The tech in my high school didn't help much. Computers all over the place and all they could do was browse the net... and for game websites that weren't blocked most of the time. I did all of the computer work at home, on a computer that wasn't locked down, was set up the way I was used to, and had all my files and such right there... not stuck at school and not able to take it back home with me cause everything was blocked, restricted and incompatable to the point where legitimately using the computers were next to useless. The best thing we had was the smart boards which were commonly seen in the math classrooms... and then the notes would then be posted online, where I could look at them at home if needed.