Thermal paste applied on your GPU / CPU, survey!

[peche]

within the past year I've had trouble finding my trusty ShinEtsu locally in Atlanta. So I switched to ThermalGrizzly Kryo and will never sway from it now, sure it's pricey but from what I've noticed it's been a big improvement in my temps on my GPU and CPU.
I do agree the small syringe tubes are in the end a waste of money if you plan on multiple applications too. i tend to look for at least a larger syringe if I can.

TG has been a premium choice for several people, the price is the itchy point for me, the money you pay for the amount you get, but is a high end one, for me the results dont justify the overpriced compared to MX 2 /4 for example,

Regards

 

[vMax65]

I have just switched to the cooler Master Gel Maker over MX4 which was my long time go to TIM....Quiet impressed with the Master Gel Maker . It has a good consistancy making it easy to apply and in terms of temps, my 8700K overclocked to 4.9GHz non delided idles at 29 to 32 Degrees and thats with this hot British weather at the moment and at load in Prime95 v26.6 it tops out at 70 Degrees...okay so I have a tripple AIO setup in the H150i pro from Corsair..

 

[Dinnercore]

I use Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut on new builds only, but when I play around with older hardware for random fun MX4 is my choice since it´s a lot cheaper and the small difference is not worth it on a 7800GT

 

[peche]

I have just switched to the cooler Master Gel Maker over MX4 which was my long time go to TIM....Quiet impressed with the Master Gel Maker . It has a good consistancy making it easy to apply and in terms of temps, my 8700K overclocked to 4.9GHz non delided idles at 29 to 32 Degrees and thats with this hot British weather at the moment and at load in Prime95 v26.6 it tops out at 70 Degrees...okay so I have a tripple AIO setup in the H150i pro from Corsair..

With these numbers i guess you dont have to Delid your chip, great numbers,

 

[Durvelle27]

Last TIM is used was IC Diamond 7 and it performed great. Only problem I found is that it was a pain to apply as it’s very thick. Warming in hot water helped a lot with application but now I’m thinking of trying thermal grizzly or kronuant

 

[vMax65]

With these numbers i guess you dont have to Delid your chip, great numbers,

I just can't seem to go the delid route as I am too much of a scardy cat!!! and yes the temps are good but when I push it to 5ghz things just go pear shaped as it requires a hell of a lot of vcore at 1.365v with spikes to to 1.41v even with LLC set to turbo (maybe I am not the greatest overclocker) and temps rocket to high 80's which I cannot live with but I am happy with 4.9GHz at 1.295v and occasional spikes to 1.304v under load with Prime95, Aida etc.

 

[peche]

I just can't seem to go the delid route as I am too much of a scardy cat!!! and yes the temps are good but when I push it to 5ghz things just go pear shaped as it requires a hell of a lot of vcore at 1.365v with spikes to to 1.41v even with LLC set to turbo (maybe I am not the greatest overclocker) and temps rocket to high 80's which I cannot live with but I am happy with 4.9GHz at 1.295v and occasional spikes to 1.304v under load with Prime95, Aida etc.

delid wont make that much changes there, maybe 1.29-1.32 and 5GHZ with lower temps, i have done several delids, nothing have gone worse than expected, thankfully , cuz i dont wanna endup frying a cpu i might have to pay

Regards,

 

[Vayra86]

I just can't seem to go the delid route as I am too much of a scardy cat!!! and yes the temps are good but when I push it to 5ghz things just go pear shaped as it requires a hell of a lot of vcore at 1.365v with spikes to to 1.41v even with LLC set to turbo (maybe I am not the greatest overclocker) and temps rocket to high 80's which I cannot live with but I am happy with 4.9GHz at 1.295v and occasional spikes to 1.304v under load with Prime95, Aida etc.

Sounds similar to what I am seeing with my 8700K and that is on air.

You however have a much better chip than I do, 4.9 at 1.3v is nice. Stick with that and count your blessings! I had to back down further...

 

[vMax65]

Yep you are both right and 4.9 is not too bad at all and I can more than live with that.

 

[Space Lynx]

I use the IC graphite pad for my cooling, no paste. will last me a lifetime and no mess, and equal or better temps than any paste. except for liquid metal obviously.

 

[DR4G00N]

I use the IC graphite pad for my cooling, no paste. will last me a lifetime and no mess, and equal or better temps than any paste. except for liquid metal obviously.

I received a couple of those a few days ago, very convenient for swapping out cpu's all the time without having to repaste.

 

[Durvelle27]

I received a couple of those a few days ago, very convenient for swapping out cpu's all the time without having to repaste.

I may need to try this as well. Simple usage and numbers seem decent

 

[MrGenius]

I use the IC graphite pad for my cooling, no paste. will last me a lifetime and no mess, and equal or better temps than any paste. except for liquid metal obviously.

I haven't seen them even match a low/mid grade paste. And most certainly NOWHERE NEAR any LM.

Bottom Line: Got beat by "mid-grade" MX-4 8.5 W/m-K. Got beat by "low-grade" IC Diamond 4.5 W/m-K. They're crap. Convenient maybe. But crap as far as thermal performance.

PS, "High-grade" paste these days is at least 11-12+ W/m-K. Such as Kryonaut, MasterGel Maker Nano, Cool Silver G4, Phobya NanoGrease Extreme, etc...

 

[Space Lynx]

I haven't seen them even match a low/mid grade paste. And most certainly NOWHERE NEAR any LM.

Bottom Line: Got beat by "mid-grade" MX-4 8.5 W/m-K. Got beat by "low-grade" IC Diamond 4.5 W/m-K. They're crap. Convenient maybe. But crap as far as thermal performance.

PS, "High-grade" paste these days is at least 11-12+ W/m-K. Such as Kryonaut, MasterGel Maker Nano, Cool Silver G4, Phobya NanoGrease Extreme, etc...

the graphite pads are 35 W/m-k - and my temps are plenty fine... linustechtips also confirmed temps are fine on his end he made a video testing it comparing it to name brand pastes. its like 1-2 degrees lower i think, but thats within margin error as far as im concerned.

 

[DR4G00N]

I haven't seen them even match a low/mid grade paste. And most certainly NOWHERE NEAR any LM.

Bottom Line: Got beat by "mid-grade" MX-4 8.5 W/m-K. Got beat by "low-grade" IC Diamond 4.5 W/m-K. They're crap. Convenient maybe. But crap as far as thermal performance.

PS, "High-grade" paste these days is at least 11-12+ W/m-K. Such as Kryonaut, MasterGel Maker Nano, Cool Silver G4, Phobya NanoGrease Extreme, etc...

I think your confusing these for the 3M 5519 thermal pad which is sold by Innovation Cooling as well. I'm using one of the 30x30mm graphite pads right now on my 8700K @ 5.1GHz 1.325V and it's working just as well if not better than the MX-2 I have.

 

[Enterprise24]

CLP for 980 Ti ref / 8700K under IHS.
CM Nanogel maker on 8700K IHS.

 

[John Naylor]

Blasphemy! 2 surfaces at most. GPU die and HBM die(s). Anything else is an act of pure desecration. That's what thermal pads are for.

You're fired.

Please explain your ... I hate to even use the word "Logic".

1. OK I have 8 memory Chips ... so your logic is to apply TIM only to the GPU and 1 memory chip ? Brilliant !

2. I have 12 VRMs, leave them w/o TIM ? Brilliant ! Guess ya haven't heard about EVGA's recall ?

3. What about the back side of the PCB where in contact w/ backpate ?

4. Why is it that you feel you know more than the component manufacturers ?

Let me see ....

Option A - Follow manufacturers written instructions.

Option B - Follow some random uninformed person on internet

I think most folks going to go w/ Option A

https://www.ekwb.com/shop/EK-IM/EK-IM-3831109868522.pdf
Make sure ya read the part about using the TIM on the thermal pads.

Let's count.

Water Block
1 GPU
8 Memory Chips
12 VRM / MOFSETS

Backplate
12 VRM / MOFSETS

Do the math

delid wont make that much changes there, maybe 1.29-1.32 and 5GHZ with lower temps, i have done several delids, nothing have gone worse than expected, thankfully , cuz i dont wanna endup frying a cpu i might have to pay. Regards,

More than that, your OC will either be limited by the "thermal wall' or the "voltage wall" ... What values you set for that wall be be user specific depending on how you use ya machine; if you make a living with it, best to be a bit mor conservative. Waiting for partts, taking down the loop, rebuilding puts me outta business for a week, meaning replacement costs are irrelevant.

Using RoG Real Bench, I have not hit the thermal wall (for me 78C) on any OC going back to Haswell. I'm usually hitt the voltage (measured) wall. That amounts to (for me) a measured value of 1.41 (1.38ish in BIOS) which will pop up to 1.50 / 1.51 when AVX is present. May adjust those.... have a Haswell box here that was running at 4.7 Ghz mid 50s while working / mid 60s in some games / mid 70s in stress test and my son is beta testing a game which crashes. I was seeing a crash about every 4-5 months after 4 years so I recently dropped down to 4.6 about 6 months ago. He still experiencing crashes, I haven't seen one yet.

 

[peche]

More than that, your OC will either be limited by the "thermal wall' or the "voltage wall" ... What values you set for that wall be be user specific depending on how you use ya machine; if you make a living with it, best to be a bit mor conservative. Waiting for partts, taking down the loop, rebuilding puts me outta business for a week, meaning replacement costs are irrelevant.

Using RoG Real Bench, I have not hit the thermal wall (for me 78C) on any OC going back to Haswell. I'm usually hitt the voltage (measured) wall. That amounts to (for me) a measured value of 1.41 (1.38ish in BIOS) which will pop up to 1.50 / 1.51 when AVX is present. May adjust those.... have a Haswell box here that was running at 4.7 Ghz mid 50s while working / mid 60s in some games / mid 70s in stress test and my son is beta testing a game which crashes. I was seeing a crash about every 4-5 months after 4 years so I recently dropped down to 4.6 about 6 months ago. He still experiencing crashes, I haven't seen one yet.

totally on the point, but delid helps a lot processor that are suffering high temps, when you delid, you improve cooling, thermal wall related to temps will be decreased or improved when delid but when the wall is related to voltage delid is not that magic to help, i know that AVX might came with a big charge and power hungry state but again, so if delid was necessary user will have a decent temp drop, and possible better numbers regarding OC or freqs, if not, numbers will be the same,
my two cents,