Thermal testing two different size Gigabyte 5070 Ti cards - huge differences

[insanee420]

Just received mine! Almost half the weight of my current 4080 lol. Not sure if i'm installing it today but I'll update here later with my temperature results, quite happy being able to downsize (actual physical size) while maintaining performance and extending warranty without spending any money
EDIT: Tested very briefly at CP2077, ambient temp ~24c.
Case is Montech 903 with 2x A14x25 G2 front intake and 1x back exhaust all at ~40%/650rpm.
GPU fans set to a fixed 50% (~1550rpm), 3840x1080 custom settings with path-tracing, let it run for >10mins and it stabilized at ~70c while pulling ~290w
Quick undervolt to 870mv and clock at ~2715mhz (60/70mhz lower) put me at ~220w and 60c, roughly a 25% reduction (~70w in absolute numbers) in power draw and 10c drop in temperature
Definitely not the best/coldest model available but that's pretty obvious as it's a slim GPU at MSRP, must say I'm quite happy with it though, couldn't really hear the fan at all at 50% so could probably drop temp significantly if I wanted to, trends towards hot near 300w but under 250w seems pretty chill

Spoiler: Prints CP2077

With front panel removed and case fans (2x 140 mm intake, 1x 140 mm exhaust) set to Full Speed (1130 rpm) and room temperature 23.0-23.5°C with opened window (not much more than if I were using AC, maybe 1°C) I get:
300W, 1500 rpm - 67°C, VRAM 74°C

So both exactly 10°C less than before.
OK, so no RMA for me then.

Card also works fine with solid panel and case fans at 600 rpm. With a more sane power setting.
UV 900 mV, +400 +2000, Silent BIOS - 75°C, VRAM 84°C, 1475rpm, max 287.5W, avg. 273W
This is worst case anyway, I am using Quake II RTX instead of MSI Kombustor. I retested with Kombustor and got 68°C, VRAM 68°C. So not so hard on VRAM and I will continue using Quake II RTX.

Oh, as for the other cards, most of them were still in Corsair 600T with mesh front panel and 200 mm front intake fan.
Only Palit GameRock 4080 end of 2022 and Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090 in beginning of 2023 were in this be quiet 802 case.
So for 4080 it was December instead of April and I only have one Port Royal benchmark numbers and not 20 min Quake II RTX like now. It was 8°C less than 5070 Ti, so with same conditions probably pretty much similar.

Sorry to doubt everyone. Yes, my methodology needs some work. It's probably better for consistency to test GPU temperatures like I did now with open front panel than with closed.

Yeah quite a big difference and it's pretty common in cases with solid front, mesh will allow more dust inside but at the same time it might make the PC both quieter and cooler than solid front, 10c drop at same rpm means you could lower rpms and still run >5c cooler for example, though for those that want close to 0 dust and don't mind the slightly higher temperatures then the solid panel is still an options as long as it's not heavily throttling

 

[GrimReaper85]

Stress test 20min.

Case fans 520 rpm and solid front panel (be quiet 802, almost completely solid, only underneath there are air ducts):
220W, 1200 rpm - 67.8°C, VRAM 78°C
250W, 1500 rpm - 66.8°C, VRAM 76°C
270W, 1700 rpm - 66.9°C, VRAM 74°C
300W, 2000 rpm - 69.8°C, VRAM 76°C

Case fans 1130 rpm and front panel removed:
220W, 1200 rpm - 58.0°C, VRAM 68°C (9.8°C less, VRAM 10°C less)
250W, 1500 rpm - 59.6°C, VRAM 68°C (7.2°C less, VRAM 8°C less)
270W, 1700 rpm - 61.6°C, VRAM 70°C (5.3°C less, VRAM 4°C less)
300W, 2000 rpm - 64.0°C, VRAM 70°C (5.8°C less, VRAM 6°C less)

Room temperature was 25°C.
Temperatures look fine to me. Because 300W, 1500 rpm and 60°C in a 25°C room seems physically impossible to me with air cooling, I get 67°C. I'm glad I didn't go through the hassle of returning the card.

 

[lek2033]

at the bottom between PS and HDD bay is 12 cm place for 1st 12 cm FAN
if you remove HDD bay there is place for 2nd bottom 12cm FAN
cases with bottom fans are the best for cooling graphic cards
small, cheap and effficient design

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back FAN is blowing hot air out, while top fan (at the most back) is blowing out cold air - difference is noticable with hand
back FAN is the most important

when 4 fans at the top, bottom, front, back have 1200 rpm is the same = as if I have open case (without side window pannel) & All 4 case
fans OFF & active fans only on GPU and CPU - room temp 24°C
My 90W graphic (when gaming) cames to 72°C and 135W (when Kombustor2.5 and MSIA tdp 116%) to 84°C - when idle 33°C
12 cm fan with cooler 14x14 cm= 350 gram + graphic card 225 gram = 575 gram
https://www.arctic.de/en/Accelero-Mono-Plus/DCACO-V430001-BL I have only 500 rpm 33% fixed

 

[lek2033]

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you can mount fans bottom and top

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PSU position front-top (upwards) - NOT lying down
Fully Perforated Chassis
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Fan Support - Top 2x 120/140mm
Fan Support - Rear 1x 120mm
Fan Support - Bottom 2x 120mm

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why to have closed case with FANs if you can have open case ? or even open bench

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[rusty caterpillar]

RTX 4090 Gigabyte Gaming OC in same case had 10°C less. At 250W and 1500 rpm it was 57°C.
Sure cooler was a little heavier, 2004 g instead of 1768 g. But that can't bring temperature down by 10°C.

300 Gr heavier cooler will have an impact, yes, maybe not 10 C less but still will have more endurance in keeping lower temps on long gaming session than a lighter cards.
Other things you have to take in consideration:

1. If 5070 Ti has thermal pads on the back of the card or not, is counting a lot if the back plate is linked properly or not to the PCB.
2. Quality of linkage of the heat pipes to the radiator fins(IMO impossible to check)
3. the number of heat pipes, maybe your 4090 had 8 heat pipes while your 5070 TI Gaming OC has maybe 5 only.
4. GPU Fan diameter and thickness.

Hope it helps

Stress test 20min.

Case fans 520 rpm and solid front panel (be quiet 802, almost completely solid, only underneath there are air ducts):

I believe that with solid front panel you don't have only underneath air ducts but also on both sides to .

 

[CheteriagalenTriagalnik]

Just received mine! Almost half the weight of my current 4080 lol. Not sure if i'm installing it today but I'll update here later with my temperature results, quite happy being able to downsize (actual physical size) while maintaining performance and extending warranty without spending any money
EDIT: Tested very briefly at CP2077, ambient temp ~24c.
Case is Montech 903 with 2x A14x25 G2 front intake and 1x back exhaust all at ~40%/650rpm.
GPU fans set to a fixed 50% (~1550rpm), 3840x1080 custom settings with path-tracing, let it run for >10mins and it stabilized at ~70c while pulling ~290w
Quick undervolt to 870mv and clock at ~2715mhz (60/70mhz lower) put me at ~220w and 60c, roughly a 25% reduction (~70w in absolute numbers) in power draw and 10c drop in temperature
Definitely not the best/coldest model available but that's pretty obvious as it's a slim GPU at MSRP, must say I'm quite happy with it though, couldn't really hear the fan at all at 50% so could probably drop temp significantly if I wanted to, trends towards hot near 300w but under 250w seems pretty chill

Spoiler: Prints CP2077

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Yeah quite a big difference and it's pretty common in cases with solid front, mesh will allow more dust inside but at the same time it might make the PC both quieter and cooler than solid front, 10c drop at same rpm means you could lower rpms and still run >5c cooler for example, though for those that want close to 0 dust and don't mind the slightly higher temperatures then the solid panel is still an options as long as it's not heavily throttling

This is a Windforce 5070Ti, correct? Looks pretty good. 1550 rpm ought to be relatively quiet, so I'm guessing that's why you're not hearing it much. I'm actually surprised an SFF card can maintain those RPMs at full load and still keep those temps. If it can maintain that profile at that temperature, it's actually not a bad cooler at all. For a base-spec card this seems to be a great value, doubly so that it's usually one of the cheapest, if not THE cheapest 70Tis out there.

I tend to disagree with the previous comments that Gigabytes are bad cards. I ran Gigabytes straight for over a decade and not had a single issue. Granted, small sample size, but still. Bought due to the value proposition at time of purchase, not brand fanboyism.

May I ask how much power that card draws at idle at desktop/web browsing, but no other load? And is there something about the card you find bothersome?

 

[insanee420]

This is a Windforce 5070Ti, correct? Looks pretty good. 1550 rpm ought to be relatively quiet, so I'm guessing that's why you're not hearing it much. I'm actually surprised an SFF card can maintain those RPMs at full load and still keep those temps. If it can maintain that profile at that temperature, it's actually not a bad cooler at all. For a base-spec card this seems to be a great value, doubly so that it's usually one of the cheapest, if not THE cheapest 70Tis out there.

I tend to disagree with the previous comments that Gigabytes are bad cards. I ran Gigabytes straight for over a decade and not had a single issue. Granted, small sample size, but still. Bought due to the value proposition at time of purchase, not brand fanboyism.

Yep 5070 Ti Windforce, case stays on the floor so noise isn't ever really a problem as the components aren't close to my ear, it's roughly ~10c hotter than the 4080 it replaced but it's way smaller and lighter so I'd say that's fair, can still handle ~300w just fine even if it requires running fans a bit higher, though since most people use speakers or headset I kinda wanna say noise during load is whatever

Only situation I could see the card "struggling" a bit is very high ambient temp (>35c) and/or high ambient temp combined with bad case airflow and/or GPU at really low fan speeds

May I ask how much power that card draws at idle at desktop/web browsing, but no other load? And is there something about the card you find bothersome?

Idle/browsing sits at ~26w for me which is significantly higher than any other GPU I've had (3060, 3070, 3080, 4070 Ti, 4080), all of those used to report around 8-12w most of the time IIRC, at 10h/day those extra ~15w amount to like $0.80/month so even though I'd like to see it lower it's whatever to me

No real complaints other than the fucky Nvidia drivers, been using the card roughly a month now and had 4 or 5 black screens so far, always happened during browsing (Firefox), basically the cursor freezes for like 2-3s, display loses signal and then I have to restart the PC

Something to note which is a complaint for some is that the GPU fans make some noise when they go from "on to off", say they're at 30% and then drop to 0%/fan-stop, they rattle for like 0.5s and that's it, noticeable on mine as well but it's whatever to me, only happens when fans go from spinning to off and it's so subtle and fast that I don't really care

 

[CheteriagalenTriagalnik]

Yep 5070 Ti Windforce, case stays on the floor so noise isn't ever really a problem as the components aren't close to my ear, it's roughly ~10c hotter than the 4080 it replaced but it's way smaller and lighter so I'd say that's fair, can still handle ~300w just fine even if it requires running fans a bit higher, though since most people use speakers or headset I kinda wanna say noise during load is whatever

Only situation I could see the card "struggling" a bit is very high ambient temp (>35c) and/or high ambient temp combined with bad case airflow and/or GPU at really low fan speeds


Idle/browsing sits at ~26w for me which is significantly higher than any other GPU I've had (3060, 3070, 3080, 4070 Ti, 4080), all of those used to report around 8-12w most of the time IIRC, at 10h/day those extra ~15w amount to like $0.80/month so even though I'd like to see it lower it's whatever to me

No real complaints other than the fucky Nvidia drivers, been using the card roughly a month now and had 4 or 5 black screens so far, always happened during browsing (Firefox), basically the cursor freezes for like 2-3s, display loses signal and then I have to restart the PC

Something to note which is a complaint for some is that the GPU fans make some noise when they go from "on to off", say they're at 30% and then drop to 0%/fan-stop, they rattle for like 0.5s and that's it, noticeable on mine as well but it's whatever to me, only happens when fans go from spinning to off and it's so subtle and fast that I don't really care

Probably those that prefer speakers over a headset are more likely to be bothered by sound. But even then, it's subjective. I think there's a definite difference between audible and annoying. Playing at over 35C ambient would be an extreme niche use case, and I doubt even higher-end cooling solutions would fare well with such a bad temperature base.

26W is definitely quite high for such a card, but also tracks with what I've heard from other Gigabyte 70Ti owners. I really don't understand why this card draws this much power. The 70ti seems to have a slightly higher power draw than normal per se, but Gigabyte cards easily take over 10W more than similar base-tier 70Tis from other brands. Idk if this can be fixed with some form of update.

How many monitors did you have connected?

Fans shouldn't really rattle, though. The 0-30% speed up is normal on blackwell cards, but I don't think they should rattle.

 

[insanee420]

Probably those that prefer speakers over a headset are more likely to be bothered by sound. But even then, it's subjective. I think there's a definite difference between audible and annoying. Playing at over 35C ambient would be an extreme niche use case, and I doubt even higher-end cooling solutions would fare well with such a bad temperature base.

Definitely, though those ridiculously high ambient temps are quite common in some countries so people do need to consider every variable involved and find a balance if that's their case

26W is definitely quite high for such a card, but also tracks with what I've heard from other Gigabyte 70Ti owners. I really don't understand why this card draws this much power. The 70ti seems to have a slightly higher power draw than normal per se, but Gigabyte cards easily take over 10W more than similar base-tier 70Tis from other brands. Idk if this can be fixed with some form of update.

How many monitors did you have connected?

Haven't looked into other cards idle power draw, a bit sad if that's the case for Gigabyte cards but 10-15w shouldn't make much of a difference for most people, just 1 display for me which is a 55" S90C running at 3840x1080 144hz

Fans shouldn't really rattle, though. The 0-30% speed up is normal on blackwell cards, but I don't think they should rattle.

They do rattle briefly but it's when going from 30% (or whatever %) to 0%, not from 0% to 30%, whenever the fans stop they make a rattling noise for 1s or so, maybe they stop spinning too fast and then shake a bit cause of that? No idea but there are many posts about it, here for example you can hear it at 0:04, some people are extremely bothered by it but to me its w/e, it's not like the fans are going from 30% to 0% non-stop all day, basically happens once or twice a day which is after finishing a gaming session and going back to idle/browsing