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Hello all. I apologize ahead of time if this isn't the correct forum to post about a Lenovo ThinkPad.
So my Thinkpad (T14s, late 2022 model) has absurdly long boot times.
From the moment the Lenovo loading screen starts, it can take anywhere from 30seconds to 4 minutes to load to windows.
I have no idea why this is, I barely have any start up applications, no virus/malware that BitDefender/Malware Bytes can detect.
Once I'm finally inside windows, things seem fine. It's just the long bootup that has me wanting to pull my hair, especially when I'm trying
to fire up the laptop for work. There's no rhyme or reason to the wildly long boot times. Every once in a while its a faster 30 second boot, then sometimes
its 4 or even the longest that I've timed it, 5 minutes!

Any suggestions or advice would be appreciated. I'm so tired of this performance I may never buy another Thinkpad again :(
My system specs.
AMD 7 Pro 6850U
32gb DDR5 6000
2tb SSD (samsung)
Win 11 Pro . All up to date.
 
check your drive with crystaldiskinfo.
run memtest (OCCTs Free test is decent)
 
Check if there's a BIOS update for your laptop on the Lenovo website.
 
Make sure the desktop only has shortcuts or links on it. Had to troubleshoot a laptop once that had gigabytes of pictures in a folder on the desktop. Prefetching all that took forever and sometimes even ran out of resources while booting.
 
Perhaps a stupid idea but easy to test: the notebook may be looking for something on the network (a shared disk or printer), and gives up after a timeout period if that thing isn't found. Boot it up several times in a row in a place where no known wi-fi network is available and see if it behaves consistently.
 
Hi,
Well 2tb samsung ssd is not stock neither is Pro so how did you get win-11 pro installed ?
Which exact samsung 2tb are you using hopefully not the defective 870 evo.

Did you clear secure boot keys before clean installing or migrating to the new ssd if not it's still looking for the old original ssd.

Startup menu see what is listed there from task manager.
 
uber_m0j0 said:
Hello all. I apologize ahead of time if this isn't the correct forum to post about a Lenovo ThinkPad.
So my Thinkpad (T14s, late 2022 model) has absurdly long boot times.
From the moment the Lenovo loading screen starts, it can take anywhere from 30seconds to 4 minutes to load to windows.
I have no idea why this is, I barely have any start up applications, no virus/malware that BitDefender/Malware Bytes can detect.
Once I'm finally inside windows, things seem fine. It's just the long bootup that has me wanting to pull my hair, especially when I'm trying
to fire up the laptop for work. There's no rhyme or reason to the wildly long boot times. Every once in a while its a faster 30 second boot, then sometimes
its 4 or even the longest that I've timed it, 5 minutes!

Any suggestions or advice would be appreciated. I'm so tired of this performance I may never buy another Thinkpad again :(
My system specs.
AMD 7 Pro 6850U
32gb DDR5 6000
2tb SSD (samsung)
Win 11 Pro . All up to date.
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Is the memory based on LPDDR5? I have a L14 with 5875U which had huge delay and high temps with power management driver. I updated AMD chipset driver which updated DRTM and PSP drivers which sped up the boot speed. Also, I am using latest AMD adrenaline drivers instead of Lenovo and disabled firmware updates through windows update which messed up the EC firmware and BIOS flashback was enabled which saved the BIOS brick on just new laptop after a day I bought it.
 
ThrashZone said:
Hi,
Well 2tb samsung ssd is not stock neither is Pro so how did you get win-11 pro installed ?
Which exact samsung 2tb are you using hopefully not the defective 870 evo.

Did you clear secure boot keys before clean installing or migrating to the new ssd if not it's still looking for the old original ssd.

Startup menu see what is listed there from task manager.
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I chose the 2tb ssd option when they built the laptop for me from their website.
SAMSUNG MZVL22T0HBLB-00BL7 : 2048.4 GB . From crystaldisk
I haven't installed a new ssd or anything, this is all stock from the options that were available at the time when I ordered from Lenovo directly

Wirko said:
Perhaps a stupid idea but easy to test: the notebook may be looking for something on the network (a shared disk or printer), and gives up after a timeout period if that thing isn't found. Boot it up several times in a row in a place where no known wi-fi network is available and see if it behaves consistently.
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Good ideas, but I have had this issue in several different locations, hotels, etc around the country.
 
uber_m0j0 said:
I chose the 2tb ssd option when they built the laptop for me from their website.
SAMSUNG MZVL22T0HBLB-00BL7 : 2048.4 GB . From crystaldisk
I haven't installed a new ssd or anything, this is all stock from the options that were available at the time when I ordered from Lenovo directly


Good ideas, but I have had this issue in several different locations, hotels, etc around the country.
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Hi,
Go to task manager and startup section and post what is listed.
 
Hi,
Quite a list lol
 
is the delay before or after the windows boot sequence... like at the lenovo splash screen??

you might wanna disable network boot in the bios boot sequence options cuz sometimes they put that before windows and it introduces a delay...
 
remixedcat said:
is the delay before or after the windows boot sequence... like at the lenovo splash screen??

you might wanna disable network boot in the bios boot sequence options cuz sometimes they put that before windows and it introduces a delay...
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Network Boot is enabled on my L14 but only change is I disabled AMD Dash and lenovo cloud thing apart from updated drivers from AMD which fixed the slow boot 3-4 months ago.
 
Step 1 - if you look under the laptop you will find theres a little hole, inside that hole theres a botton, disconnect the charger but keep the laptop on, use a simtool to press botton, it should turn off, this resets the motherboard
Step 2 - Install Lenovo system update, update everything.
Step 3 - Test with any PD 3.0 or higher 20v 3.5A capable USB charger, would recommend you use a decent one as cheap ones dont have stable voltages.
Step 4 - go in to bios, make sure SSD is the first boot device, go to device access section, disable SD card reader.
Step 5 - get a windows PE disk like Sergey Strelec or Medicat and boot from those, see how long boot takes to see if its a hardware issue or a windows issue.
Step 6 - If you have another M2 laying around, test to see if your SSD is defective, reinstall windows on a new drive.
Step 7 - If all other fails, RMA.
 
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