Thoughts on this Laptop

[Gilletter]

http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/ho...02164?HP-ENVY-17t-j100-Leap-Motion-Best-Value

What are your thoughts on this laptop?

My current 3 year old Toshiba satellite L755d is on its last legs, and I'm looking for something that I can let the wife use for basic internet and word processing, excel, etc. While I can use it for gaming and media. Trying to talk her into a 17 inch with a dedicated card vs. integrated. Any other options in the price range that you would suggest and why. Thanks!

 

[krusha03]

http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/ho...02164?HP-ENVY-17t-j100-Leap-Motion-Best-Value

What are your thoughts on this laptop?

My current 3 year old Toshiba satellite L755d is on its last legs, and I'm looking for something that I can let the wife use for basic internet and word processing, excel, etc. While I can use it for gaming and media. Trying to talk her into a 17 inch with a dedicated card vs. integrated. Any other options in the price range that you would suggest and why. Thanks!

I don't know how much looks and portability is important but this has much better specs for almost the same price. Also what is the reason you wanna buy laptop and not a desktop? If a 17" laptop means it will spend 99% of the lifetime on the desk and you might as well get a ITX build that will have much better performance for the same price

 

[TeslaK20]

Looks great. As said above, it does not have the best specs for the price, but the Leap Motion is one of the coolest things on the planet. I bought it as a peripheral, but you would get it built in. Basically, it brings the swipe-your-fingers-in-thin-air of Iron Man to your PC. However, if you don't care for the Leap, there are better options.

 

[LaytonJnr]

In terms of graphics performance, I would expect medium-high settings maximum at 1080p resolution. Could crank up the settings a little bit if playing at 1600x900, but some people prefer the higher resolution. But you can expect to play all current gaming titles, but of course not at high settings.

Layton

 

[TeslaK20]

Of course, Leap Motion makes it great for playing games such as Fruit Ninja and Cut the Rope in addition to hardcore titles such as Bioshock Infinite.

 

[Gilletter]

I don't care about leap motion, just looking for a decent computer that is portable. My desktop I do most of my gaming on, but if I'm stuck being upstairs or have to be out of town I wanted something to game on. I've also been looking at the Lenovo y510p with a bluray player http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/lenovo/y-series/y510p/

15.6 inch screen, but from reviews seems to be a nice laptop, and I can get it for $999.

The HP I can get for 1087

 

[LaytonJnr]

I don't care about leap motion, just looking for a decent computer that is portable. My desktop I do most of my gaming on, but if I'm stuck being upstairs or have to be out of town I wanted something to game on. I've also been looking at the Lenovo y510p with a bluray player http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/lenovo/y-series/y510p/

15.6 inch screen, but from reviews seems to be a nice laptop, and I can get it for $999.

The HP I can get for 1087

The GPU in the HP has more VRAM, which can be very useful for gaming on a laptop. But the GPU on the Lenovo is marginally better - I'm struggling to find a proper comparison, as most only compare the 2GB GT 750M model (from the HP). Battery life is another thing to look out for - better performance often means less battery life, so check whether Optimus is available so that the integrated GPU is used when not gaming.

If the Lenovo has better battery life, definitely go for it.

Layton

 

[TeslaK20]

There's also the Lenovo Y50 with a GTX 870m.

 

[pigulici]

I have Y510p (single 755m), I usually work in Photoshop CC, gaming it is light at me(Torchlight, Sacred 2 Gold, Mass Efect 3 mp,...),it is ok, but for serious gaming, allways remain the desktop...

 

[Gilletter]

Ok well wife shot down that idea, lol. Too expensive for her. Besides the HP went back up to full price. I can get a cheaper hp envy from either samsclub or from HP direct. I'll link both, give me your thoughts on both.
http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/ho...ENVY/902171?ENVY-15z-j100-Notebook-Best-Value

http://www.samsclub.com/sams/envy-1...aign=rr&sn=ClickCP&campaign_data=prod13720037

 

[pigulici]

It look good on paper but, from my past experience, amd cpu are more hungry,hot and low performer than intel(although I like the raw power of amd cpu in linux), and amd mobile vga cards, for me, have a lot of problems with drivers, so for mobile/laptop I think it will be better if you go with intel cpu + nvidia vga...

 

[Gilletter]

I would go Intel but the wife has cut my budget on replacing it. I can get the one from hp for $735. Sam's Club one listed is $699. Lower processor and GPU and has a touch screen interface. I'm leaning towards the direct link, but would like some input on it.

 

[pigulici]

Usually , the non-touch screen are cheaper.What it is your budget and from what place/website you can buy? maybe we can help you with some suggestions...

 

[Gilletter]

Budget is $750. I can shop anywhere in the us. The best I've found so far was a configurable hp envy 15z. It was $909 for a 1920x1080 15.6 inch non touch, 1tb hdd, 12gb ram, 2gb discrete video card, back lit keyboard, am a 10 processor. I have a $175 off coupon that expires today making it $735. I can also get $40 cash back through shop at home. So essential $695 for it when all is said and done. I will only be doing light gaming (starcraft, d3, maybe some newer titles yet to be determined) the wife will be using it for ms office for school and work purposes. I would also stream to my ps3 from it.

 

[pigulici]

That laptop with Intel I7 4th gen look better than that with Amd A10; in Est Europe(where I live), Lenovo and Toshiba have the best quality laptops, so when I bought mine, I look for those brands, after that I looked what can I buy in my budget, with Intel cpu and nvidia vga, with cpu to be more important than vga, so in the end I get Lenovo Y510p (i7+single 755m), at my girlfriend I bought a Lenovo g510 (I7+amd 8570), not happy with amd card but it is for almost no gaming...so my advise, look what brand have best quality for you, and in your budget, what it is most important, cpu,vga,battery...; in the end the laptop give portability,low electricity bill and a lot of compromise(cpu power, vga power, lan speed, hdd/ssd speed,display size/quality..), so the choice of laptop it is like the choice of mobile phone or car, a almost very personal choice, different people, different needs; also if you have in the same budget multiple choices, you can google for reviews(notebookreview.com it is a good start); on this forum we can help you with some guidance, but what I need and like maybe it is not what you need and like...at us HP brand it is mediocre(not good but not bad either)...

 

[GhostRyder]

Budget is $750. I can shop anywhere in the us. The best I've found so far was a configurable hp envy 15z. It was $909 for a 1920x1080 15.6 inch non touch, 1tb hdd, 12gb ram, 2gb discrete video card, back lit keyboard, am a 10 processor. I have a $175 off coupon that expires today making it $735. I can also get $40 cash back through shop at home. So essential $695 for it when all is said and done. I will only be doing light gaming (starcraft, d3, maybe some newer titles yet to be determined) the wife will be using it for ms office for school and work purposes. I would also stream to my ps3 from it.

$750? Let me see what I can find

Well first is a Toshiba Satellite which fits in the budget and contains and i7 4510U and an R7 m260. Its got decent specs for the price but run a 1366x768p screen which will allow some light gaming and decent media center performance.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834216800

Second is an HP with an 8780m and an I5 3230m, this is a refurb and the graphics should be similar to the R7 m260 which will be decent on a 720p screen.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834258974
Note: This is a refurb

Refurb Asus with i7 4200U & GT 745m, comes with a full HD 1080p screen.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834231446

This Acer maybe the best choice for you, its got an i5 4210U, an 15 inch touch screen, and a new GT 840m graphics card which should deliver on most of the thigns you want while staying in your budget
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834314574

I would put my money on the Acer being your best buy because it will offer a touch screen and a decent (Probably the best in your budget I see right now, there are not other refurb deals).

 

[pigulici]

I will not advise for Acer brand, high specs/low quality, and also ga with cpu with U in name only if you need long battery life and light laptop(under 1.5kg), those cpu are for web browse, light multimedia, the target it is for people who want more than a tablet and less than laptop...

 

[Gilletter]

HP I'm looking at due to the fact that I can get more specs for less with the coupon I have. I can do a 4th generation Intel® Core™ i5-4210U Dual Core Processor + 2GB NVIDIA GeForce 840M Graphics. For roughly the same price as the a10 with the 2 gb 8750m. Will the Dual core compare to the quad?

 

[GhostRyder]

HP I'm looking at due to the fact that I can get more specs for less with the coupon I have. I can do a 4th generation Intel® Core™ i5-4210U Dual Core Processor + 2GB NVIDIA GeForce 840M Graphics. For roughly the same price as the a10 with the 2 gb 8750m. Will the Dual core compare to the quad?

Thats similar to the Acer I suggested, you will be fine in the end with that processor (I have a device with it) and its pretty darn good. You will be able to do at least medium gaming on that machine.

 

[Gilletter]

Well the ever revolving doors swing again. I finally got a budget of up to $1200 after showing her how much more we can get for the money. So I'm thinking between an MSI ge60 Apache Pro- 003 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ..._re=MSI_GE_Series_GE60-_-34-152-560-_-Product

or a Lenovo y50 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...17538&cm_re=Lenovo_y50-_-34-317-538-_-Product

This I like specs for the $ Any other additions to throw in for comparison?

edit: for a 3rd option AMD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152571

 

[GhostRyder]

Well the ever revolving doors swing again. I finally got a budget of up to $1200 after showing her how much more we can get for the money. So I'm thinking between an MSI ge60 Apache Pro- 003 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ..._re=MSI_GE_Series_GE60-_-34-152-560-_-Product

or a Lenovo y50 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...17538&cm_re=Lenovo_y50-_-34-317-538-_-Product

This I like specs for the $ Any other additions to throw in for comparison?

edit: for a 3rd option AMD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152571

Skip the last one, that price is a bit high to mix with that processor sadly.

Of the choices you have, I would go for the GE60 overall unless you really want that small for factor on the Y50.
I can find some others if you want alternatives, but both options seem to be very nice you have there.

 

[Gilletter]

Skip the last one, that price is a bit high to mix with that processor sadly.

Of the choices you have, I would go for the GE60 overall unless you really want that small for factor on the Y50.
I can find some others if you want alternatives, but both options seem to be very nice you have there.

I'm open to suggestions. I threw in the gx70 due to the 17 inch with blu-ray, and higher ram for price.

 

[GhostRyder]

I'm open to suggestions. I threw in the gx70 due to the 17 inch with blu-ray, and higher ram for price.

The problem is that processor is decent but it actually holds back the R9 M290X from the benchmarks ive seen sadly to the point where the price to performance actually drops quite a bit. If it was 899, I would say its an excellent deal but that does not seem to be the case.

This just caught my eye and its in stock so long as you do not mind open box

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...2554R&cm_re=MSI_GT_70-_-34-152-554R-_-Product

Or its smaller sibling

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...52557R&cm_re=MSI_GT60-_-34-152-557R-_-Product

Edit, odd they are listed as in stock until you put them in cart...Darn

 

[Gilletter]

The problem is that processor is decent but it actually holds back the R9 M290X from the benchmarks ive seen sadly to the point where the price to performance actually drops quite a bit. If it was 899, I would say its an excellent deal but that does not seem to be the case.

This just caught my eye and its in stock so long as you do not mind open box

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...2554R&cm_re=MSI_GT_70-_-34-152-554R-_-Product

Or its smaller sibling

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...52557R&cm_re=MSI_GT60-_-34-152-557R-_-Product

Edit, odd they are listed as in stock until you put them in cart...Darn

I guess I don't mind open box, do you know if they still have full manufacturers warranty with an open box? Can't find any information on the website regarding it.

 

[GhostRyder]

I guess I don't mind open box, do you know if they still have full manufacturers warranty with an open box? Can't find any information on the website regarding it.

They do, the only downsides to Open box products normally (Because the places like newegg test them) is that they maybe missing some instructions, cords, or the likes but the device itself still has all the regular manufacturer warranties.