ThrottleStop not working whatsoever after upgrading to 20GB RAM?

[Koopatoad]

I've been using ThrottleStop since 2021, It's been working fine until now, I upgraded to 20GB (2400mhz) of ram (from 8GB), ever since I haven't been able to get anything to apply. (SpeedShift does apply however.)
I have everything to do with virtualisation turned off, I've quadruple checked at this point.

However, when I first turned my Laptop on after upgrading, Windows was configuring itself, I assume this would be the culprit.

If it helps my laptop is the Lenovo Ideapad 330s 15i-kb.

 

[unclewebb]

Windows was configuring itself

Sounds like a Windows Update issue. Post a screenshot of the ThrottleStop FIVR window. Check to see if Windows core isolation memory integrity is enabled or not. This often times gets randomly enabled when you are not paying attention.

Also post a screenshot of the Windows Features window. Something that you are not aware of might have got enabled.

 

[Koopatoad]

Check to see if Windows core isolation memory integrity is enabled or not.

Core Isolation isn't available.

 

[unclewebb]

ever since I haven't been able to get anything to apply

What is not applying? All of the voltages seem to be applying just fine. Not sure why you decided to set them all to the same value.

I would recommend setting IccMax to the max for both the core and the cache.

 

[Koopatoad]

All of the voltages seem to be applying just fine.

I assumed they weren't working since I recieved a huge drop in performance since the upgrade, thanks for the help anyway!

Edit: Even in simple games I can barely pass 50 fps most of the time and PL 1 (GPU) and EDP OTHER are almost always active, could this be a result of the rest of the system getting stressed out by the new RAM?

 

[unclewebb]

Turn on the ThrottleStop Log File option and go play a game for 15 minutes. When done testing, exit the game and exit ThrottleStop so it can finalize the log file. Attach a log to your next post. Also post some screenshots of ThrottleStop including the TPL window so I can see your settings.

How was your memory configured before? Did you have 2 x 4 GB and now you have 1 X 4 GB and 1 X 16 GB? If that is the case then your memory would no longer be running in dual channel mode. Using two different memory modules with different sizes and different specs can significantly reduce memory performance.

What CPU do you have? Does your computer have an AMD Radeon or Nvidia GPU or only the Intel GPU?

 

[Koopatoad]

Turn on the ThrottleStop Log File option and go play a game for 15 minutes. When done testing, exit the game and exit ThrottleStop so it can finalize the log file. Attach a log to your next post. Also post some screenshots of ThrottleStop including the TPL window so I can see your settings.

How was your memory configured before? Did you have 2 x 4 GB and now you have 1 X 4 GB and 1 X 16 GB? If that is the case then your memory would no longer be running in dual channel mode. Using two different memory modules with different sizes and different specs can significantly reduce memory performance.

What CPU do you have? Does your computer have an AMD Radeon or Nvidia GPU or only the Intel GPU?

Yes, it's 1 x 4 and 1 x 16, my cpu is the Intel i5 8250u, and there's only the Intel GPU.

One thing I noticed while playing is that every so often the screen will go choppy despite the game saying it's running at 60 fps.

Nevermind, I just put the original 4GB ram stick back in, I think I can deal with 8GB for the time being.

The RAM was only dual channel until it passed 8GB used, which was pretty much 90% of the time.

 

[unclewebb]

There is room for improvement with your settings.

In the TPL window check the MMIO Lock box. Clear Disable Controls and set PL1 and PL2 to 25 or 30.

It is important to check the Speed Shift box in the TPL window. Your computer is significantly throttling the CPU MHz.

Set the Intel GPU offset voltage equal to the iGPU Unslice offset voltage. These two voltages do not have to be set equal to any of the other voltages.

The CPU core offset should be set equal to or greater than the cache offset voltage. Many similar 8th Gen U series CPUs will lose stability if you set the cache offset greater than -70 mV. Most people do not undervolt the System Agent.

Run another log file so I can see if that fixes your throttling problem.

Try using ThrottleStop to access the Windows High Performance power plan when gaming. Check that box on the main TS window.

 

[Koopatoad]

I followed your settings and they worked great! I barely dropped below 50 fps during gameplay, even on the most demanding maps. And I never went past 80 degrees, thank you for showing me these settings!

There is room for improvement with your settings.

In the TPL window check the MMIO Lock box. Clear Disable Controls and set PL1 and PL2 to 25 or 30.

It is important to check the Speed Shift box in the TPL window. Your computer is significantly throttling the CPU MHz.

Set the Intel GPU offset voltage equal to the iGPU Unslice offset voltage. These two voltages do not have to be set equal to any of the other voltages.

The CPU core offset should be set equal to or greater than the cache offset voltage. Many similar 8th Gen U series CPUs will lose stability if you set the cache offset greater than -70 mV. Most people do not undervolt the System Agent.

Run another log file so I can see if that fixes your throttling problem.

Try using ThrottleStop to access the Windows High Performance power plan when gaming. Check that box on the main TS window.

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

Windows 11 does indeed seem to be sensitive to RAM instability.

 

[unclewebb]

I followed your settings and they worked great!

Your computer still has a significant throttling problem. The CPU multiplier should be steady at 34 but it is dropping down to 24 while playing a game. That reduces the CPU speed by 1000 MHz. Post some updated screenshots of the TPL and FIVR windows so I can see how you have ThrottleStop setup now. Something is still not right. Try setting Speed Shift Min and Speed Shift Max both to 34.

I know your computer is throttling but I do not know what method it is using or if ThrottleStop can be used to solve the problem.

 

[Koopatoad]

Your computer still has a significant throttling problem. The CPU multiplier should be steady at 34 but it is dropping down to 24 while playing a game. That reduces the CPU speed by 1000 MHz. Post some updated screenshots of the TPL and FIVR windows so I can see how you have ThrottleStop setup now. Something is still not right. Try setting Speed Shift Min and Speed Shift Max both to 34.

I know your computer is throttling but I do not know what method it is using or if ThrottleStop can be used to solve the problem.

Ah, I thought it was just me being paranoid when I noticed (slight) stuttering when I was testing the new settings.

on second thought i'd rather keep the speed shift at default...

 

[unclewebb]

i'd rather keep the speed shift at default...

Try setting both Speed Shift Min and Speed Shift Max to 34. Run another log file while playing a game.

I am curious why your CPU is throttling down to the 24 multiplier while in game. It should not be doing this.

Manufacturers are always dreaming up new and improved throttling schemes.

 

[Koopatoad]

Try setting both Speed Shift Min and Speed Shift Max to 34. Run another log file while playing a game.

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I am curious why your CPU is throttling down to the 24 multiplier while in game. It should not be doing this.

Manufacturers are always dreaming up new and improved throttling schemes.

I tried doing this earlier and it almost never went below 80 degrees ingame, even if it is faster I'd rather stick with my current config.