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To frack, or not to frack?.....that is the question (with POLL)

Do you agree with fracking?

  • YES

    Votes: 13 16.7%

  • NO

    Votes: 53 67.9%

  • UNDECIDED

    Votes: 12 15.4%
  • Total voters
    78
France is working on an "Evolutionary Pressurized Water" reactor but they're way over budget and way past projected deadline. Two are being built in France and two in China. Based on that, they're working on a new design that aims to be much cheaper to build.

Like I said though, PWR is literally a design that dates back to the very first reactors (1950s). We know better designs exist that are incapable of melting down and capable of using a variety of metals. PWR is really the best choice for now but there needs to be a big push for alternate reactor designs that can be deployed globally without concerns of meltdown or enrichment for weaponization.


Kind of going off topic here though. The advantage/value of natural gas is that it can be used to power vehicles. Nuclear can't (unless you're talking really big ships). Change all of the grid over the nuclear and there's still a problem with moving people and goods around nations.

Sadly, natural gas is the best solution for that at the moment. It's more energy dense than gasoline and gasoline engines can be modified to run off of it. The problem is the safe extraction of it.
 
I voted yes because my family make money from fracking. And I like money. We have 85 acres of land in Pennsylvania. It sits over a huge natural gas pocket and there are 2 pads placed where the fracking is done. I own 8 of those acres myself but I don't have a pad on mine. But the money goes to an estate and most of the estate owners get a check here and there. I don't get any of the money though until my Mom passes away so ultimately I hope to never make any money off this!
 
How many miles is it from the fracking site to your house?
 
My view is we have fucked this planet up so much already. All comes down to greedy twats making money anyway possible.
Were there is money to be had, are dickhead world will suck it up........THE END....:toast:
 
CAPSLOCKSTUCK said:
How many miles is it from the fracking site to your house?
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Over 3000 miles away. I was born and raised in PA but I live in California. The owners of the land are the children of my Grandfather who passed away a few years ago. He has 4 kids. Besides his kids I'm the only grandson that owns part of the land. Only one relative lives next door to that land and the rest of us live either 4 hours away in PA or in another state.
 
i read this earlier and couldnt quite believe it

Prior 2009, Oklahoma had just two or three earthquakes a year of greater than 3.0 magnitude.

Last year it had 907.
 
CAPSLOCKSTUCK said:
i read this earlier and couldnt quite believe it

Prior 2009, Oklahoma had just two or three earthquakes a year of greater than 3.0 magnitude.

Last year it had 907.
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hmmmm.. 20 in the last 7 days...

yeah... everything's just fine :)

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the sad thing is, that we're dumber than the stormtroopers.....



edit*** I do apologize, 8 of those listed on that site in the last 7 days were under 3.0. I meant simply to speak to earthquakes total, but it may have appeared that I was trying to say 20 3.0 earthquakes. Clarity for the win :)
 
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Perhaps @yotano211 will have more info when he gets online.
 
All of the info that i get is from the interwebs and from talking to people around the oil industry. I just felt 2 small earthquakes in the 2.5-3.3 range just last week. Oklahoma has many people that work or used to work in the oil industry. Even many old timers that have lived in Tulsa their entire lives. They say that they never felt so many earthquakes up until just a few years ago. I have only lived in Tulsa 16 months.

I go on this website to check on earthquake stats.
http://www.newson6.com/category/225338/oklahoma-earthquakes

Wow I didnt know the one from yesterday was a 5.0, wow, I think the is the strongest one yet that I have felt.
 
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yotano211 said:
All of the info that i get is from the interwebs and from talking to people around the oil industry. I just felt 2 small earthquakes in the 2.5-3.3 range just last week. Oklahoma has many people that work or used to work in the oil industry. Even many old timers that have lived in Tulsa their entire lives. They say that they never felt so many earthquakes up until just a few years ago. I have only lived in Tulsa 16 months.

I go on this website to check on earthquake stats.
http://www.newson6.com/category/225338/oklahoma-earthquakes

Wow I didnt know the one from yesterday was a 5.0, wow, I think the is the strongest one yet that I have felt.
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Check out the link I posted
http://newsok.com/earthquakes

:)
 
A new geological survey has revealed the biggest continuous oil field ever discovered in the America hidden under west Texas.

The Midland Basin, of the Wolfcamp Shale area in the Permian Basin, has an estimated 20 billion barrels of oil - worth up to $900 billion - and 1.6 billion barrels of natural gas, according to the US Geological survey.

The discovery is nearly three times larger than the shale oil found in 2013 in the Bakken and Three Forks formations in the Dakotas and Montana,

The oil, which is contained within layers of shale, is worth around $900 billion based on the current market price of oil.

Yet, oil companies will have to pay for the extraction and processing of the oil. While experts predict that only 50 to 60 per cent of the oil will be recoverable, Forbes reports.

The Wolfcamp Shale is part of the sweeping and energy-rich Permian Basin, which encompasses the cities of Lubbock and Midland — 118 miles apart — and includes a series of basins and other geologic formations in West Texas and southern New Mexico. It's one of the most productive oil and gas regions in the U.S.


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In 2015, the United States consumed a total of 7.08 billion barrels of petroleum products, an average of about 19.4 million barrels per day,
 
earth is fracked & hacked nonstop; we all use oil&gas (even the green ones) and til the wells don't dry out nothing will change.

global economy is built on fossile fuel and no clean energy option is available now(if exist is not public and won't be...); current "green" solutions development&production create more waste&gases than using oil&gas.

we managed to change climate (not a hoax where i live in winter 20y ago we had -35°C and now -20....not to mention new summers...hoter every year...) and slowly killing all around...next generations will be in big shit
 
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