Totally lost on the best path from/with current hardware for gaming

[dgianstefani]

At a bare minimum for platform upgrade 5800X3D/13600K.

Otherwise just keep saving. There's no use buying new entry level parts to replace old mid range parts, doing a single generation upgrade, or buying a six core in 2023.

You've kept your system for seven years, if you want another seven year system that will hold it's own, don't fall for the budget meme.

People will tell you "buy a cheap processor to get onto the platform, you can always upgrade later." Complete waste of money and hassle, buy what you need when you build the platform.

Since you're looking at mid range, waiting for Meteor Lake is also a good option.

 

[Eskimonster]

i use an ancient setup, i just swapped TEMP file from my windows ssd to my nvme , my reason was too see if my stuttering on videos/tubes whilst i start games would stop and it did

 

[nomdeplume]

huh?
i've always been under the impression that skylake's dependent on at least uh semi-decent memory; preferrably 3200 or 3600 (w/ useful cas latencies like, 16 or 18 at most) (2933 on the 10700 is fine-ish but that's about it); it simply does not have the cache to be able to do well w/o that good, fast memory

which in turn made non-z boards until the b560 age like milk, basically since you're locked to piss-poor 2666 pre 10700/10900

(then again, you don't need all that much to hit 60fps stable so there's that)

Emotional reassurance has its place and you correctly arrived at deciding this wasn't it.

Informed opinions armed with cutting truth were always in good supply on this forum. I'm not only shocked what I have works still but at how many others are hunkered down with 8700K/10xx. Confusing to sort out which camp has the right ideas going forwards. All the games I own work fine and will continue to fill as many hours as I want.

From day one I recognized the shortcoming and how a gaming mobo with faster RAM solved it. iTX took off and mATX died.

I didn't mean 3200 because of that, but it's because it's the cheapest kit on pcpartpicker lol

32 GB RAM for $50! And it isn't an isolated instance either. There's just no point in 16 GB configurations anymore.

This H370 CSM board is best paired with Ballistix Sport 2400. Fairly sure of this with a decent amount of feedback chasing down ways to get better memory performance.

I can buy 32GB (2x16) of this RAM and have it here in a few days for $50. Spending $0 attempting to polish a turd in 7 years only to do so at the last moment is a painful painful almost unthinkable offense that has reduced me to moaning and crying in public.

Since you're looking at mid range, waiting for Meteor Lake is also a good option.

I don't plan to launch myself onto the benchmark leader boards. Or put a stencil underneath my case and do some artistic woodburning.

Truth is I have no idea what I should be looking for but surely don't have it sitting next to me with a game loaded.

 

[dgianstefani]

I don't plan to launch myself onto the benchmark leader boards. Or put a stencil underneath my case and do some artistic woodburning.

Truth is I have no idea what I should be looking for but surely don't have it sitting next to me with a game loaded.

It's not about benchmark leaderboards, it's about the minimum bar that's worth building for a long term build moving forwards.

 

[nomdeplume]

i use an ancient setup, i just swapped TEMP file from my windows ssd to my nvme , my reason was too see if my stuttering on videos/tubes whilst i start games would stop and it did

My board and BIOS were technically capable of it out of the box while not being very advisable as a platform. For that reason I never explored an x4 card that would use PCie lanes instead of the processor. Board mounts didn't inspire confidence of handling the heat output.

I have no doubts going from a SATA SSD to NVMe OS and storage is going to be a massive improvement.

It's not about benchmark leaderboards, it's about the minimum bar that's worth building for a long term build moving forwards.

Anything can be about the benchmark leaderboards. Some days half the conversation on this site is about wringing a drop of blood out of a stone dead platform. It's understated but never too far from the surface.

If anything I'm more sold on avoiding the minimum (performance and long term credibility) bar coming from where I am currently. However, ambient 80C doesn't equate in the physical world with stable or long term performance. iTX never factored in as a possible escape for this reason. I get the feeling direct and intelligent but withering insights on hardware that is intentionally digging itself an early grave won't be a popular topic with staff attempting to contribute towards solutions. Not trying to needle anyone.

I did respond to a few credible ideas today. Don't dismiss my stated intent to shut up until I have something good to shout about though.

 

[A&P211]

My board and BIOS were technically capable of it out of the box while not being very advisable as a platform. For that reason I never explored an x4 card that would use PCie lanes instead of the processor. Board mounts didn't inspire confidence of handling the heat output.

I have no doubts going from a SATA SSD to NVMe OS and storage is going to be a massive improvement.

You will be surprised the little difference between loads times of a sata ssd and nvme. The loads are very similar.

Since you keep ignoring the question, what country do you live and what is your budget.

 

[nomdeplume]

He didn't address load times with NVMe. The focus was on stability and overall system handling in relation to "ancient setup."

I've stated US $ numerous times and US electronics store Micro Center at least once.

Budget is ???
In the last few months I've been corrected the base level 65w i9 isn't of interest and took a hard look at someone claiming their D4 B660 and 13400 build was practically indistinguishable from their high end build in gaming when set up correctly. Then AMD released a processor with shocking power and performance everyone including myself has been quietly waiting for real world results to arrive on in case there is a fatal flaw that didn't show up within the short review cycle.

Truth is I have no idea what I should be looking for but surely don't have it sitting next to me with a game loaded.

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

Even a "budget build" (which I recommend against, FTR) with Zen 3 will be cheaper than a new high-end LGA1151 CPU, and outperform it.

I would recommend a 5800X3D on a decent B550, and the start looking at GPUs as the current gen mid-range offerings drop. Even if they are uninteresting, the last gen should become cheaper as newer alternatives are available.

 

[mb194dc]

Op has a 4k TV with a 1060 ? Depending on exactly what your use case is, I'd stick and extra 8GB stick in and a 6800xt. Easy.

I'm using a 6800xt with a 4k screen and a 4790k, does fine for my needs. Found no reason to upgrade yet for what I watch and play.