• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

TPU's GPU Database Portal & Updates

Joined
Oct 19, 2022
Messages
17 (0.03/day)
Location
Los Angeles, CA
Processor AMD Ryzen 9 5900X (OC)
Motherboard ASUS ROG Strix X570-E GAMING
Cooling ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 280 A-RGB
Memory 4x8GB (32GB) G.Skill Trident Z Royal Gold @ 3733MHz CL14 (14-14-14-28)
Video Card(s) MSI GeForce RTX 4090 SUPRIM Liquid X
Storage Samsung 990 PRO 2TB w/ Heatsink SSD + Seagate FireCuda 530 SSD 2TB w/ Heatsink
Display(s) LG OLED C9 55" (4K@120Hz 12-bit RGB with G-SYNC)
Case CoolerMaster H500M (Mesh)
Audio Device(s) AKG N90Q with AudioQuest DragonFly Red (USB DAC)
Power Supply Corsair AX1500i (1500W 80+ Titanium)
Mouse Logitech G PRO X SUPERLIGHT
Keyboard Razer BlackWidow V3 Pro
Software Windows 10 64-bit
Hi guys,

I think there's something wrong in the charts... Since when is the RTX 3090 Ti about 16% faster than the RTX 3090 ? Lol (If I remember well it's supposed to be around 8-10%)
~2.44% more CUDA Cores, ~9.3% faster Core Clocks and ~7.7% more Memory Bandwidth ! I think you need to re-run some benchmarks


1706313003043.png
 
D

Deleted member 237813

Guest
3090ti pumps in much more power tho it comes pretty much extremely overclocked out of the box thats where your 6% comes from since fe model dont.

10% regular uplift + the hefty oc= +6% 450+ Watts but its like 2ghz out of the box depending on the game of course and model
 
Joined
Oct 19, 2022
Messages
17 (0.03/day)
Location
Los Angeles, CA
Processor AMD Ryzen 9 5900X (OC)
Motherboard ASUS ROG Strix X570-E GAMING
Cooling ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 280 A-RGB
Memory 4x8GB (32GB) G.Skill Trident Z Royal Gold @ 3733MHz CL14 (14-14-14-28)
Video Card(s) MSI GeForce RTX 4090 SUPRIM Liquid X
Storage Samsung 990 PRO 2TB w/ Heatsink SSD + Seagate FireCuda 530 SSD 2TB w/ Heatsink
Display(s) LG OLED C9 55" (4K@120Hz 12-bit RGB with G-SYNC)
Case CoolerMaster H500M (Mesh)
Audio Device(s) AKG N90Q with AudioQuest DragonFly Red (USB DAC)
Power Supply Corsair AX1500i (1500W 80+ Titanium)
Mouse Logitech G PRO X SUPERLIGHT
Keyboard Razer BlackWidow V3 Pro
Software Windows 10 64-bit
Thank you! I appreciate the feedback and re-run! @W1zzard

So the 3090 was power constrained then... Ampere seems to scale better than Lovelace when overclocked!
I think Lovelace is too Memorg Bandwidth starved (GDDR6X & L2 Cache), and I'm pretty sure a 4090 with just 96MB L2 Cache (instead of 72MB) would see a 10%+ increase in performance

Curious to see what Blackwell will bring though!
I just looked into this for you, with my newest benchmarks from nov 2023 the delta is 13%

View attachment 331905
 
Joined
Feb 3, 2017
Messages
3,481 (1.32/day)
Processor R5 5600X
Motherboard ASUS ROG STRIX B550-I GAMING
Cooling Alpenföhn Black Ridge
Memory 2*16GB DDR4-2666 VLP @3800
Video Card(s) EVGA Geforce RTX 3080 XC3
Storage 1TB Samsung 970 Pro, 2TB Intel 660p
Display(s) ASUS PG279Q, Eizo EV2736W
Case Dan Cases A4-SFX
Power Supply Corsair SF600
Mouse Corsair Ironclaw Wireless RGB
Keyboard Corsair K60
VR HMD HTC Vive
GPUs have been power constrained for a long while now. Very heavily and noticeably at least since Kepler.

3090 power limit is 350W.
3090ti power limit is 450W.
450/350 = 1.28

Yes, diminishing returns at this point but that is still a huge difference.
The other factor with test results is that games seem to have gone more compute heavy and more efficient in using GPU resources since 3090/Ti release.

Edit:
Looked at the TPU 3090Ti launch review and yes, it has 3090Ti 8% faster than 3090. But also I am quite sure 5800X can be a detriment at that level :)
 
Last edited:
Joined
May 8, 2016
Messages
1,741 (0.60/day)
System Name BOX
Processor Core i7 6950X @ 4,26GHz (1,28V)
Motherboard X99 SOC Champion (BIOS F23c + bifurcation mod)
Cooling Thermalright Venomous-X + 2x Delta 38mm PWM (Push-Pull)
Memory Patriot Viper Steel 4000MHz CL16 4x8GB (@3240MHz CL12.12.12.24 CR2T @ 1,48V)
Video Card(s) Titan V (~1650MHz @ 0.77V, HBM2 1GHz, Forced P2 state [OFF])
Storage WD SN850X 2TB + Samsung EVO 2TB (SATA) + Seagate Exos X20 20TB (4Kn mode)
Display(s) LG 27GP950-B
Case Fractal Design Meshify 2 XL
Audio Device(s) Motu M4 (audio interface) + ATH-A900Z + Behringer C-1
Power Supply Seasonic X-760 (760W)
Mouse Logitech RX-250
Keyboard HP KB-9970
Software Windows 10 Pro x64
GPUs have been power constrained for a long while now. Very heavily and noticeably at least since Kepler.

3090 power limit is 350W.
3090ti power limit is 450W.
450/350 = 1.28

Yes, diminishing returns at this point but that is still a huge difference.
The other factor with test results is that games seem to have gone more compute heavy and more efficient in using GPU resources since 3090/Ti release.

Edit:
Looked at the TPU 3090Ti launch review and yes, it has 3090Ti 8% faster than 3090. But also I am quite sure 5800X can be a detriment at that level :)
I think GPUs are mostly voltage limited though. You can't get card that goes to 1.2V after all.
Main culprit for this is plain transistor counts we have now (more transistors = more power usage at the same voltage).

Recent RTX 4080 Super is great example of that.
Because more active CCs and TMUs = more heat, turbo boost gains can get into negative (so Super card can get lower frequency than non-Super), at the same voltage levels. End results is the exact same performance for both cards when VRAM bandwidth isn't as important for Super.

I wonder when we get cards sold by voltage they utilize, instead of frequency ranges they go to.
Examples : We buy low voltage card [0.7/0.8V] for lower power bill, cooler requirements (and having downside of 10-20% lower performance), and highest voltage version [~1V] for unlocked OC limits and highest performance.
 

Bufaritza

New Member
Joined
Feb 1, 2024
Messages
2 (0.02/day)
Hello,

Is this the right place to ask for a board to be added to the 4080 Super Database?
It is the Inno3d RTX 4080 Super iChill X3

Couldn't find it and also no reviews yet. I am receiving mine tomorrow, so will upload the vbios once I get it working.
 

T4C Fantasy

CPU & GPU DB Maintainer
Staff member
Joined
May 7, 2012
Messages
2,562 (0.59/day)
Location
Rhode Island
System Name Whaaaat Kiiiiiiid!
Processor Intel Core i9-12900K @ Default
Motherboard Gigabyte Z690 AORUS Elite AX
Cooling Corsair H150i AIO Cooler
Memory Corsair Dominator Platinum 32GB DDR4-3200
Video Card(s) EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA @ Default
Storage Samsung 970 PRO 512GB + Crucial MX500 2TB x3 + Crucial MX500 4TB + Samsung 980 PRO 1TB
Display(s) 27" LG 27MU67-B 4K, + 27" Acer Predator XB271HU 1440P
Case Thermaltake Core X9 Snow
Audio Device(s) Logitech G935 Headset
Power Supply SeaSonic Platinum 1050W Snow Silent
Mouse Logitech G903 Lightspeed
Keyboard Logitech G915
Software Windows 11 Pro
Benchmark Scores FFXV: 19329
Hello,

Is this the right place to ask for a board to be added to the 4080 Super Database?
It is the Inno3d RTX 4080 Super iChill X3

Couldn't find it and also no reviews yet. I am receiving mine tomorrow, so will upload the vbios once I get it working.
I will add this :)
 

Bufaritza

New Member
Joined
Feb 1, 2024
Messages
2 (0.02/day)
Thank you! I have already uploaded the vbios. Sadly, Inno3d still provides +0% power limit on all their 4000 series boards. I know why they do it, but I don't agree with it. You do get a tangible benefit for increasing the power limit, the most important one being that when you put core voltage to +100%, so it goes to 1100mV, it doesn't fluctuate that much. At 320W, it fluctuates alot from ~1050 to 1100, while at let's say 350w, you get locked inot that 1095-1100mV value.
 
Joined
Jul 15, 2019
Messages
492 (0.28/day)
Location
Hungary
System Name Detox sleeper
Processor Intel i9-7980XE@4,5Ghz
Motherboard Asrock x299 Taichi XE (custom bios with ecc reg support, old microcode)
Cooling Custom water: Alphacool XT45 1080 + 9xArctic P12, EK-D5 pump combo, EK Velocity D-RGB block
Memory 8x16Gb Hynix DJR ECC REG 3200@4000
Video Card(s) Intel Arc A770 LE 16Gb + CMP 100-210 (Tesla V100 16Gb)
Storage Samsung PM9A1 1Tb + PM981 512Gb + Kingston HyperX 480Gb + Samsung Evo 860 500Gb
Display(s) HP ZR30W (30" 2560x1600)
Case Chieftec 1E0-500A-CT04 + AMD Sempron sticker + Titan fan controller
Audio Device(s) Genius Cavimanus
Power Supply Super Flower Leadex 750w Platinum
Mouse Logitech G400
Keyboard Dell Oem + Focus Fk2000 plus
Software Windows 11 Pro x64
I can't find the nvidia cmp 100-200 6gb and 100-210 12gb cards. These are Titan V based mining cards. I need info for the pcie limitations. Tensor cores are disabled?

So what i find:
CMP 100-200 is a half memory TitanV, with the titanV cooling system. Possible unlock the other half vram. 6+8 pin pcie power
CMP 100-210 is a 12Gb vram Tesla V100, with the tesla stock passive cooling but missing the two bright platic shourd. 8 pin EPS power.

There is a possibility to the pcie lanes are limited, tensor core disabled. I only see these cards on the USA market.
 
Last edited:
Joined
Jul 15, 2019
Messages
492 (0.28/day)
Location
Hungary
System Name Detox sleeper
Processor Intel i9-7980XE@4,5Ghz
Motherboard Asrock x299 Taichi XE (custom bios with ecc reg support, old microcode)
Cooling Custom water: Alphacool XT45 1080 + 9xArctic P12, EK-D5 pump combo, EK Velocity D-RGB block
Memory 8x16Gb Hynix DJR ECC REG 3200@4000
Video Card(s) Intel Arc A770 LE 16Gb + CMP 100-210 (Tesla V100 16Gb)
Storage Samsung PM9A1 1Tb + PM981 512Gb + Kingston HyperX 480Gb + Samsung Evo 860 500Gb
Display(s) HP ZR30W (30" 2560x1600)
Case Chieftec 1E0-500A-CT04 + AMD Sempron sticker + Titan fan controller
Audio Device(s) Genius Cavimanus
Power Supply Super Flower Leadex 750w Platinum
Mouse Logitech G400
Keyboard Dell Oem + Focus Fk2000 plus
Software Windows 11 Pro x64
I can't find the nvidia cmp 100-200 6gb and 100-210 12gb cards. These are Titan V based mining cards. I need info for the pcie limitations. Tensor cores are disabled?

So what i find:
CMP 100-200 is a half memory TitanV, with the titanV cooling system. Possible unlock the other half vram. 6+8 pin pcie power
CMP 100-210 is a 12Gb vram Tesla V100, with the tesla stock passive cooling but missing the two bright platic shourd. 8 pin EPS power.

There is a possibility to the pcie lanes are limited, tensor core disabled. I only see these cards on the USA market.
Thanks for the update!!!

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/cmp-100hx-210.c4202

a few things:
The 100-210 uses the V100 PCB, it has one 8 Pin EPS power connector
pcie is possible works 1x mode only like on the most of the CMP cards
 
Last edited:
Top