TPU's Nostalgic Hardware Club

[Greenslade]

X5690s are cheap as dirt now. I’ve picked up 2 for about $65 total. Some of the Ivy Bridge EP stuff is even cheaper. You can snag 10 core CPUs for like $10. I thought about getting a base Trash Can Mac Pro, as they are getting pretty cheap now. It’s a more involved procedure, but the 12C/24T Ivy EP is also really cheap and is drop in compatible. My main gripes are the limited storage room and the old proprietary Tahiti Radeons. Still, I might one day just to have owned one.

I saw two Mac PC,s either the G5 or the Mac pro version at my local market. How can you tell what is in them? I dare say they were both the G5 version. Those fans in the G5 are noisy It must be hard to get the parts for them, and if you do must cost an arm and leg for them.

This giy is good

Come to think of it had more than one bay in the front so they must have been Mac Pros. Have you heard of MorphOS?

So is this guy's videos

 

[Darmok N Jalad]

I saw two Mac PC,s either the G5 or the Mac pro version at my local market. How can you tell what is in them? I dare say they were both the G5 version. Those fans in the G5 are noisy It must be hard to get the parts for them, and if you do must cost an arm and leg for them.

Depends on the model/year. Anything called PowerMac is PowerPC, so yeah, hard to find. Anything Mac Pro is Intel based, with mostly off the shelf parts. Pre-2009 used RAMBUS, so the memory is more complicated and maybe harder to find. 2009-2012 is Nehalem and Westmere Xeons, and you can often get the base tower for under $200, and the CPU upgrades are anywhere from $5-40 on eBay, depending on what CPU you get. ECC DDR3 is abundant and cheap. I got 48GB for about $60. Mac Pros also accept most off-the shelf GPUs, but you lose the initial boot screen. Install OpenCore to the EFI partition to fix that, and to run more recent versions of MacOS.

 

[Greenslade]

No that came with with the one in the photo Cooler Master which only cost me £5. on F.M.PDefnetly the place to buy stuff on there.That PSU works fine.Good review by the Aussie ,looks a good case for building in.I am going to take the 1155 out of and put Asus P5N 775 board in the there.I have so many cases now i will have to start building.The intel heatsink fan is noisy on the 1155 board.

I just tried the PSU that came with the case you see here which was free. I did not think it was working, I am not sure I would trust to use it with a build though.

 

[MaxiPro800]

A "teaser" of my next build

The PSU is Raidmax only by the shell - its original internals are long gone (aside from the fan, that is) and have been replaced by a Spire Jewel 380W's recapped internals.

 

[Greenslade]

A "teaser" of my next build

The PSU is Raidmax only by the shell - its original internals are long gone (aside from the fan, that is) and have been replaced by a Spire Jewel 380W's recapped internals.

That must take some doing to replace the PSU innards.

Depends on the model/year. Anything called PowerMac is PowerPC, so yeah, hard to find. Anything Mac Pro is Intel based, with mostly off the shelf parts. Pre-2009 used RAMBUS, so the memory is more complicated and maybe harder to find. 2009-2012 is Nehalem and Westmere Xeons, and you can often get the base tower for under $200, and the CPU upgrades are anywhere from $5-40 on eBay, depending on what CPU you get. ECC DDR3 is abundant and cheap. I got 48GB for about $60. Mac Pros also accept most off-the shelf GPUs, but you lose the initial boot screen. Install OpenCore to the EFI partition to fix that, and to run more recent versions of MacOS.

It is an expensive thing to do I would have thought. Does anyone own one of that trash can Macs? I understand there still selling for high prices, even though the high-spec ones are very low these days.

Sounds like a lot of delicate work to upgrade it.

 

[Darmok N Jalad]

That must take some doing to replace the PSU innards.


It is an expensive thing to do I would have thought. Does anyone own one of that trash can Macs? I understand there still selling for high prices, even though the high-spec ones are very low these days.

Sounds like a lot of delicate work to upgrade it.

You can get the base model 6,1 on eBay for $350 or so. A 12C/24T Ivy Bridge E is only like $20 on eBay, so if you have about $400, you can do it. I’ve thought about it and might do it one day. One is is the GPUs are old Pictairn proprietary jobs, so you are stuck with old performance and replacement GPUs that are really hard to find. My 5,1 has an RX 480 in it currently, but I have a 5600 XT on the way. You can run up to a 6800 XT in these older Macs, and it’s one of the many reasons Apple users rejected the Trash Can Pro. Apple screwed that one up really bad. Not bad as far as engineering goes, but certainly not a Pro machine. The Classic Pro runs circles around the Trash Can when it comes to peripheral upgrades. I have a PCIe to NVME card in mine, so I get 1400MB/s r/w. I can add 2 more of those, and I have 4 SATA bays and 2 SATA optical bays where I could put even more storage. I wish Apple had just kept the classic design with the 6,1, but they blew it.

 

[droid-I]

^x4, Is that a VIA chipset s754 board? But yes, going from 500W to 380W, should still work on those. Could not see what AGP GPU you have there.

 

[MaxiPro800]

ASUS K8N, nForce 3 250GB. GPU is a 3D Prophet 9700 Pro.

I do have two K8V-X SE as well, but they have bulging caps from being unused (known problem with Chemicon KZG series).

As for the PSU, I don't think it's gonna see past 250W max of load - nothing in there would go past that IMO

 

[droid-I]

To others&youngsters, some info here about (link) nForce3

 

[lexluthermiester]

That must take some doing to replace the PSU innards.

Not really. It can be very easy.

 

[Greenslade]

Not really. It can be very easy.

You're a pro to all this I'm new to it all. Can you tell me what size this case is Mini or Micro ATX am hoping it is a Micro?

 

[droid-I]

looks like micro ATX
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[Greenslade]

looks like micro ATX
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I thought it looks on the smaller size. What about the motherboard that looks like a wifi card in there if it is it would be a micro board as the mini ones only have one PCI slot on them. Is that your Pc you have shown?It only has three slots at the back though.

 

[ExcuseMeWtf]

micro ATX, you can recognize from 4 expansion slots on the back.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Can you tell me what size this case is Mini or Micro ATX am hoping it is a Micro?

looks like micro ATX
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micro ATX, you can recognize from 4 expansion slots on the back.

I agree, looks like a MicroATX setup.

 

[droid-I]

Is that your Pc you have shown?It only has three slots at the back though.

No, just dug from the net as an example.

 

[Darmok N Jalad]

Definitely a mATX. If it was a mini ITX the GPU would have to be using the first and second case slot. The wifi card in the bottom is the other big giveaway. You can run a miniITX board in a mATX case, but that's not what you see here.

 

[Greenslade]

No, just dug from the net as an example.

Ok thanks to everyone.

Definitely a mATX. If it was a mini ITX the GPU would have to be using the first and second case slot. The wifi card in the bottom is the other big giveaway. You can run a miniITX board in a mATX case, but that's not what you see here.

Thats what i was hoping.And because it has a WHFI card in there the board must be a micro board The reason i was asking this question was i bought it yesterday.And did not check all the specs as i usually do as it was such a good deal for the price £230 including £18 for the postage.The guy even said he would take that off if he could deliver within 70 miles,i am a lot more than that.I have never heard anything like that before Only if you are local.

 

[droid-I]

^ off topic, looks like the motherboard is a Gigabyte B450M DS3H ?

 

[Greenslade]

No, just dug from the net as an example.

• Very compact and quiet- nicely built by CCL Computers. Great all round PC with very little use. Was reset 13/3/23.

AOC G2778VQ 1ms 75Hz Gaming MonitorBefore i saw that after you mentioning about RYZEN i did intend to to build a RYZEN after all the rave reviews of how good they are compared to Intel.I was ready to buy a RYZEN 5 3600 for £55.So when i saw a complete PC with WIFI card 2600s and RX580 plus This​

as well as this keyboard and mouse unused .I could not give that a miss for the price.

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^ off topic, looks like the motherboard is a Gigabyte B450M DS3H ?

If it is that one thats ok with me.

if i had been building one myself i would have got the AsRock b450m pro 4 as i did want 3,2 GEN 2, but it seems that there on few.and far between

 

[droid-I]

I have good experiences with Gigabyte boards on AM3 and AM4, they are durable. BIOS support been good too, taking care of compatibility.

 

[Apocalypsee]

I have good experiences with Gigabyte boards on AM3 and AM4, they are durable. BIOS support been good too, taking care of compatibility.

Yep I been using even cheaper B450M-S2H with only 2 DIMM slots. Regular BIOS updates means I could plug 5800x3D with latest AGESA fixing compatibilty with it.

 

[Greenslade]

Yep I been using even cheaper B450M-S2H with only 2 DIMM slots. Regular BIOS updates means I could plug 5800x3D with latest AGESA fixing compatibilty with it.

Sounds good to me ,i am glad it has four Ram slots. It looks like it is the board droid-says it is.Off course i want know tell i Receive it.

 

[MaxiPro800]

And the K8N is set up on the bench. I legitimately forgot this was one of the two K8N I have that has had a custom splash screen applied.

And yes, I went ahead and just said "screw it", and dropped XP x64's install disc image onto a 4GB microSD card. Blazing fast, considering USB 2.0 was still new voodoo magic back when this board released.

I did also find the other stock K8N... but it's in an dire need of a recap. Whatever my brain was thinking nearly 10 years ago when I installed Evercons all over the board (Evercon being one of the many names of GSC, aka the worst capacitor you'd ever find - Albatrons were their biggest vicitms as far as I remember) escapes me, but sure as heck they need to get off that board. I'll be looking whatever dead 775 board I have that I may be able to harvest polymers off and treat it to a whole polymod - the one I used here has Panasonic FL/FJ over the entire board so no need for me to replace them.

 

[droid-I]

Albatrons were their biggest vicitms as far as I remember

From my socket A times, EPoX and some MSI boards were also hit badly with the capacitor misery, can't recall if I ever an had Albatron board.