Discussion in 'TechPowerUp Club Forum' started by stinger608, Nov 14, 2009.
"designed for overclocking" but looks worse than the boxed coolers.
Hell, I would think if a person has the correct video card bios and use it as a second card in a system to flash it, it should work just fine.
Here is the TPU video card bios database: http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/...r=&model=9800+XT&interface=&memType=&memSize=
Check to find out what brand of card you have, and you can download the proper PC bios for said card.
I don't know why that wouldn't work.
It Lives!... Or rather... It still runs. AMD XP2500+ ASUS A7V8X 333FSB (VIA KT400) DDR1 in single channel. This Barton has an unlocked multi and runs ~2.2GHz (XP3200+) with stock/default vcore. Booted up this old box today which had last seen use at my parents' summer lake house.
i need to do some work on my Athlon XP rig : i managed to have it stable as a 2800+ (it is a 2000+) and redid all the setup, since i got my "server" i did not work on it a lot (the A XP rig ofc)
It's heavy, solid and does the job really well. I plan to use it on my next AMD setup I will build for backyard shed. It's reeally warm there so I need a fan that run full speed and cool well for free.
my Titan Majesty V is lighter with a smaller louder fan and keep my Athlon XP cool on a 2800+ (2024mhz) setup, your's rated 1900+ ? special overclocking? i would understand the statement for a Titan Vanessa S or L or any more elaborated Skt A HSF (look Backfire's post) but not for that lump of aluminium with a 70mm strapped on it.
the "designed for overclocking" label on that box is just a "commercial pseudo lie" to make people buy it, just like 4gb ddr3 gpu a friend ended buying a 4gb DDR3 Zotac GT640 because of the box and marketing instead of having a 2gb GDDR5 7870/R9 270 for just a bit more money... : AKA never trust what is written on a packaging. ofc my friend doesn't know a thing when it come to PC and he get easily fooled by marketing... he doesn't especially want to take the cheapest gears around but he look more at the packaging than the tech spec (and cheap brand like Trust or other have a good marketing ) lucky for me he never ended buying a Razer product ... excellent marketing and horrible general quality and price
I don't own any older chipset now. I will just use it for my AM2 dualcore setup in backyard shed. The cooler is not cheap aluminium like today it's heavy aluminium with a weight around 1.5 pounds.
aluminium is still aluminium my Titan Majesty V is lighter but not less sturdier, tho too loud ... yet it handle 2800+ (pretty sure it would handle more if my FSB was not 150)
i need to seek a Arctic cooper silent 3
or find a new deal on a Titan Vanessa type S or type L
i totally forgot : this was the highest i could achieve 2.25ghz with 180mhz FSB
That still looks kinda crappy Glacialtech had the good cheap 462 coolers since they were used ^^
sorry for my bad English ^^
Found an ole Diamond Stealth 3D 2000 among some old stuff a fella brought to me yesterday!!!
One of these: http://vintage3d.org/virge.php#sthash.GzIythIF.dpbs Its the one in the first picture
Also added that site to the original post for some great reference.
OK this somewhat passes on the nostalgia score, got it when i upgraded a relative's PC :
Mobo: ga-k8nf-9 (with a 512MB stick)
Athlon 64 3000+
and a 9400GT
kinda sad it's just a 1.8GHz single core, but thinking positively i can see how much i can overclock it "if i can" and can be on the lookout for a phenom or somethin
A skt 939 Phenom? Do such procs exist?
afaik no AM2+ is compatible with phenom and phenom II but 939 the highest would be Athlon 64 FX-60
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K8/AMD-Athlon 64 FX-60 - ADAFX60DAA6CD (ADAFX60CDBOX).html
my Asus M3N78-CM is compatible till the Phenom II X6 1099T
noticed a dual 250(troy) is a win/win over a 246(sledghammer) less tdp higher frequencies
i did well to choose the 250x2 instead of getting a single 246(sh)
now if the K8D can really handle a pair of 270 ... i might jump on it
They didn't apparently, but Opterons existed
hmmm..... i guess i'll check things locally first to see if i could find a dual core
obviously ... some serie 1xx ... i didnt mentioned because for me it was obvious
so the best in line for that socket is still Athlon 64 FX-60
Some uni-processor Opterons were also manufactured for socket 939. These microprocessors were essentially fast Athlon 64 processors - they could work with less expensive unbuffered RAM and had only one Hypertransport link.
... ok thats easier to find than a FX-60 i reckon...
"AMD Opteron 156 is the fastest single-core processor for socket 939. Clocked internally at 3 GHz, the OSA156DAA5BN is 600 MHz, or 20% faster than the fastest single-core socket 939 Athlon 64 CPU, and 400 MHz (15%) faster than dual-core Athlon 64 FX FX-60 or Opteron 185. This makes it a perfect, albeit expensive, upgrade for old socket 939 motherboards when the best single-core performance is required. When upgrading a general purpose motherboard always make sure that the motherboard supports this Opteron processor"
awww too bad not compatible ... even for a single core this one is a blast ...
oh well look ebay for a 185 they are cheap normally (i paid 6chf for both 250)
i found a store where they always have old cheap used gfx cards and some 1st gen intel cpus.
just bought a 8800 GT 512mb for £20, repasted it and now benching it.
20pounds make it expensive for me imho ... i can get used 8800 GT and 9800 GT for between 1 and 20chf, i have 2 9800 GT (Matrix 512mb with a scrapped off chip on the back but i cant see what it is and a HP OEM 1gb) i brought for 3chf (including a 4870 in the pack) but not "fully working"
oh well that still cheaper than initial launchprice
The Opty 165 was the one to have, iirc. Was cheap for what it was, and many would run 3+ GHz.
I remember the Opterons. I loved my 939 board. They had a better quality silicon I believe and would overclock.
yeah... but instead of buying a 1800mhz and praying for a 3ghz clock ... why not take directly a 185 have a 800mhz bost in the direction of the 3ghz ... and if a 165 OC a 185 should do it too (if basing on a iirc then : anything's possible xD)
and since they have the same TDP then the 185 is a plus value (if you find around 2€ on ebay no matter wich one you take ) plus the 185 is faster in single task (mostly due to the 800mhz bump i reckon )
AMD Opteron 165 advantages
AMD Opteron 185 advantages
The CPU performs 40% better when running single-threaded tasks.
Multi-threaded performance of this microprocessor is higher.
Memory performance of the processor is better.
165 vs 185 power consumption comparison
Thermal Design Power
X700se 256MB, the fan has died some weeks ago!
All supported CPUs i looked for on ebay were expensive for me (atleast 40$ for Athlon 64x2 4400+\ 100$ for FX 60) but i did find an Athlon 64x2 3800+ for 19$ which i might buy..
and i'll be messing around with what i got after lunch, will post CPUZ shots later
Love my s939 rig also.
Most of the time this was true BUT the higher binner Optys had a tendency to run hotter thanks to their higher stock clockspeed if ran that way.
For OC'ing the higher models were preferred since with the 165's max multi of 9X, you'd need a board capable of some high bus speeds to see it's real potential. If the board you had wasn't capable of that, the chip would never be able to run at the max speed it would be capable of reaching. I have three of these dual core Opty's myself (165,175,180) and they've been great with all three topping 3.2GHz no prob. I also have a pair of Opty 146 single core chips too I can run whenever I want.
Personally I'd suggest at least a 170 or higher binned model to help offset problems with a deficient board if you want to OC but as long as the board you have can hit some high bus speeds, the 165 itself is great and it's the cheapest to get - That was it's greatest appeal back then from a $$ perspective and why so many had them.
Anything from an Opty 175 and up, you're gonna pay for it nowadays.
well for Doc41 yes
for me as i use MP board : no settings for it i run 2 250 i intend to get either a new board with 2 270 or fetch some 280 and try it with the K8D and the lastest bios in date ... tho that setup feel sluggish ... i suspect the board to have some issues, even the Athlon XP rig feel snappier... oh right the XP has a Radeon X1950GT 512 ... but 768mb instead of 4gb, also i re put together the HP compaq DC7700p i finally found where the problem was: the embedded graphic from intel go south when you install the drivers and make the whole setup unstable ... so for the moment i put the FX 5200 PCI 128 and i will seek a little LP PciE X16 gpu for later
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