Uninstall option no longer available for the new version of Microsoft Edge

[moproblems99]

Microsoft is first and foremost a software development company and because of the reckless haste by the company execs, the appearances are that they can't even do that!

You didn't need Edge to confirm they can't do that. Just look at updating Windows 10.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Yeah chredge still needs a setting or two to be at least the same as ie11
I often center click links to open them in a new tab

Issue is new tab is never switched too as soon as created ie11 and maybe old edge had a setting to switch to new tab, chredge doesn't neither does chrome.
Without this basic setting it's just not usable.

 

[Bill_Bright]

You didn't need Edge to confirm they can't do that. Just look at updating Windows 10.

Which takes us back to my first post and my comment about bashers in my post #13. This thread has nothing to do with Windows Update. But contrary to what some seem to believe, Windows Update works great for, by far, the vast majority of users. And IMO, that is an exceptional feat considering each and every one of the 1 Billion+ W10 computers out there became unique computers within the first few minutes after the very first boot up - unique with their hardware configurations (from 100s if not 1000s of different manufacturers), network configurations, security configurations, installed programs, not to mention the users, their accounts and their own unique "personalizations". I will not debate this further.

***

One of the reasons IE is still around is, as mentioned before, some programs still call it up. This is particularly true if the program uses .NET WebBrowser as that is IE based. So if the program has a link, it is going to fire up IE by default even if another browser is set as the default in Windows.

 

[moproblems99]

chredge doesn't neither does chrome.

Not my experience.

This thread has nothing to do with Windows Update.

It doesn't have anything to do with internet explorer either but that doesn't stop you.

Look, people don't tolerate car updates bricking stuff. Or phone updates bricking stuff. Why does MS get a pass?

 

[ThrashZone]

Not my experience.

Hi,
Yeah chredge still needs a setting or two to be at least the same as ie11
I often center click links to open them in a new tab

Issue is new tab is never switched too as soon as created ie11 and maybe old edge had a setting to switch to new tab, chredge doesn't neither does chrome.
Without this basic setting it's just not usable.

Hi,
What since you removed the part of the comment you dispute

I'd sure like to see the setting that controls this in either chrome or chredge because I sure haven't run into it.
All center click tabs open behind the original.

 

[Bill_Bright]

Why does MS get a pass?

Nobody is giving them a pass. If WU fails on one computer, that is one too many. But the problem does not need to be blown WAY WAY out of proportion every time an update fails. And it does not need to be brought up at every opportunistic time when it has nothing to do with the thread.

It doesn't have anything to do with internet explorer either but that doesn't stop you.

I'm not the one who first brought it up - like you did with WU.

 

[kiriakost]

what? If you mean the Sync feature, people wanted it. And frankly, I'd rather trust Mozilla than, say, Google.

My vote goes to local storage.
And neither there was any public voting about such a change.
When the Firefox server get hacked , what they will say to the world ? I am sorry .. it was an accident ... and tears

 

[windwhirl]

My vote goes to local storage.
And neither there was any public voting about such a change.
When the Firefox server get hacked , what they will say to the world ? I am sorry .. it was an accident ... and tears

1 - You're not required to use Sync and you're free to use Firefox with only local storage.

2 - Well, if someone actually wants a feature that much, they push for it. In Sync's case, it was an add-on that was later merged with Firefox itself. If nobody wanted it, the feature wouldn't be there. And just to add to it, if there had to be public voting every time someone wanted a new feature, the browser would never get anywhere. In any case, most discussions take place in Bugzilla, which isn't exactly closed off.

3 - Firefox Sync locally encrypts your data first, and then sends it over TLS to Mozilla. The encryption keys don't leave your computer.

 

[Drone]

lol no uninstall button. If you press Change it just reinstalls it.

It's not in program files and it's not in Turn Windows features on or off. Anywho I don't mind it, at least it's better than original crappy edge.

 

[Assimilator]

Look, people don't tolerate car updates bricking stuff. Or phone updates bricking stuff. Why does MS get a pass?

Since when does Edge brick things?

Never?

OK, go back to drawing on the wall with crayons then.

 

[moproblems99]

Since when does Edge brick things?

Wasn't talking about Edge there Tinkerbell hater. Not to my mention I ate my crayons so I have to find something else to occupy my tine. That said, at least they moved to chromium so we can be done with another piece of MS trash.

 

[newtekie1]

Hi,
Yeah chredge still needs a setting or two to be at least the same as ie11
I often center click links to open them in a new tab

Issue is new tab is never switched too as soon as created ie11 and maybe old edge had a setting to switch to new tab, chredge doesn't neither does chrome.
Without this basic setting it's just not usable.

Oh no, you have to hold shift and middle click to open a new tab in the foreground. How absolutely unusable!

 

[Rob94hawk]

I forsee a lawsuit coming from the EU again.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Beginning with general availability of the new Microsoft Edge in January, Microsoft has migrated Windows customers from the legacy version of Microsoft Edge to the new version in a phased rollout. We want to ensure all Windows customers have the latest Microsoft Edge browser for the performance, privacy, security, productivity, and support features it offers.

The new version of Microsoft Edge gives users full control over importing personal data from the legacy version of Microsoft Edge. The new version of Microsoft Edge is included in a Windows system update, so the option to uninstall it or use the legacy version of Microsoft Edge will no longer be available.

If you need further assistance, please go to the Microsoft Edge support website or contact support.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4576988/can-t-uninstall-microsoft-edge

You can remove it the hard way if you wish. Let me know if you'd like a quick walk-through.

Doesnt matter to me, I dont use it anyway.

Perhaps, but it still runs in the background whether you want it too or not.

For me, this Edge nonsense isn't an issue as I'm running LTSC, which does not have Edge, Cortana or the App Store installed. I've also removed Windows Defender, Windows Firewall, Internet Explorer and Windows Media Player in favor of programs that work better and allow fine-grained controls.

I forsee a lawsuit coming from the EU again.

Possibly, and I would encourage such. EU citizens can purchase the "N" versions of Windows 10, but those versions still include programs and apps that should be removable by the user.

 

[Selaya]

The original Edge could have and would have been nice if they didn't rush it out the door in a clearly unfinished state. But the Microsoft execs wanted so badly to include it with W10, they made [another] lousy executive decision to push it out unfinished then fix it later. That was simply stupid. The initial version was extremely buggy, supported literally no add-ons or extensions, failed to render many sites properly - it was a mess. It's only virtue was that it was pretty quick.

All that fiasco did was give all the Microsoft haters and bashers another (but this time, genuine) reason to bash Microsoft. And it was so half-baked and unpolished, it even gave the Microsoft supporters and fanboys reason to bash Microsoft.

I heard through two reliable and independent sources at Microsoft that the Edge development team was opposed to releasing it with W10 because they knew (everybody at Microsoft knew! ) it was not ready to go - it was not even ready for Beta. They wanted to keep it in development just a couple more months until they could release a product they could be proud of.

But once again, the MS marketing weenies, backed by the MS execs overruled the developers and pushed it out anyway. But who got the blame? The developers, of course.

It got so much criticism that Microsoft was forced to abandon it completely and go with a Chromium based browser - one that would support the plethora of Chrome extensions and add-ons.

In the end, consumers have an excellent browser in the "new" Edge. But at what cost? Microsoft is first and foremost a software development company and because of the reckless haste by the company execs, the appearances are that they can't even do that!

It's a real shame too - the world could desperately have used something besides chrom-e/-ium (and Firefox); monocultures are always bad.

Besides that, I am of the opinion that Updates should be forbidden (short of catastrophic security flaws, maybe). The reason is, precisely because Updating is possible and now easy & convenient too, people will ship unuseable garbage as you have described. We'll just patch it to be functional later on Undecimber the 32nd!

 

[newtekie1]

Perhaps, but it still runs in the background whether you want it too or not.

No it does not. There is no Edge process running unless you start it.

 

[lexluthermiester]

No it does not. There is no Edge process running unless you start it.

Yes, it does. In it's default configuration Edge starts automatically with Windows and drops to a suspended state. It comes in and out of that state as needed by the system until terminated or it's configuration is changed.

 

[Drone]

Perhaps, but it still runs in the background whether you want it too or not.

That's right.

Old edge, Microsoft Store, Calculator, Your Phone, Search and Settings are always running in the background (in the suspended state).
New chromium edge don't run in the background anymore, and I have nothing against Search, Settings and Store. However annoying Your Phone is always there and can't be uninstalled.
I never ever need Your Phone app and I can't even uninstall it, meh.

Why can't I uninstall the Your Phone app? - Microsoft Support

An explanation as to why the Your Phone app can't be uninstalled from Windows 10.

support.microsoft.com

 

[kiriakost]

That's right.

Old edge, Microsoft Store, Calculator, Your Phone, Search and Settings are always running in the background (in the suspended state).
New chromium edge don't run in the background anymore, and I have nothing against Search, Settings and Store. However annoying Your Phone is always there and can't be uninstalled.
I never ever need Your Phone app and I can't even uninstall it, meh.

With all these happening I am no more blame my self about getting Win7 Pro RETAIL at 2020 even as used from eBay (Blue carton box, DVD media among orange License Key).
In the end of the day it is all about the consumer to make the wise decisions and to deny of what it does not work in his favor.
Win 10 was made for the best interest of Microsoft, this using your system resources and CPU and electricity that you are obligated to pay.

 

[R-T-B]

There are millions of users who are totally naïve about security, operating systems and computer hardware. And that's fine! A computer should be just as easy to use and keep safe as a toaster, home phone or any other household appliance.

I think this mentality is frankly the wrong way to approach the problem, but then, I would. I know computers. I know they can't and will never be a toaster.

 

[Selaya]

I think this mentality is frankly the wrong way to approach the problem, but then, I would. I know computers. I know they can't and will never be a toaster.

<xterm> The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?

?

 

[ThrashZone]

No it does not. There is no Edge process running unless you start it.

Yes, it does. In it's default configuration Edge starts automatically with Windows and drops to a suspended state. It comes in and out of that state as needed by the system until terminated or it's configuration is changed.

Hi,
I'll agree otherwise this would not of been created

How to Prevent Microsoft Edge From Preloading on Windows 10

In the Windows 10 October 2018 Update, Edge received a performance boost that lets it pre-launch processes and preload the Start and New Tabs during Windows startup.

www.howtogeek.com

Oh no, you have to hold shift and middle click to open a new tab in the foreground. How absolutely unusable!

HI,
Firefox I don't need to do that so yeah I'll pass until shift is no longer needed.

 

[lexluthermiester]

New chromium edge don't run in the background anymore

Does it not? The default behavior I've witnessed on even 2004 is that it does start and then enters suspended mode. Does this change at some point after installation?

Hi,
I'll agree otherwise this would not of been created

How to Prevent Microsoft Edge From Preloading on Windows 10

In the Windows 10 October 2018 Update, Edge received a performance boost that lets it pre-launch processes and preload the Start and New Tabs during Windows startup.

www.howtogeek.com

Right.

 

[Drone]

Does it not? The default behavior I've witnessed on even 2004 is that it does start and then enters suspended mode. Does this change at some point after installation?

W10 build 19042.423, Edge build 84.0.522.52 (completely replaced old edge and it became part of OS)

After and before I close Edge: It goes away from apps and it's not in the background processes.

 

[newtekie1]

Does it not? The default behavior I've witnessed on even 2004 is that it does start and then enters suspended mode. Does this change at some point after installation?


Right.

None of my machines have Edge running in the background, even suspended, and I haven't used that registry hack in several builds.

I think Edge only preloads now if you have Edge set as your default browser and once you change the default browser Edge stops preloading by default. At least that seems to be the behavior I've experienced.