Upgrade AM4 CPU or go for Intel 1700?

[najsr]

Hello,

currently my setup is mentioned on my profile. But to make it easier my key parts.

CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Motherboard	ASUS Prime B350-Plus
RAM	DDR4 2x16GB @ 3600MT CL16
GPU	RX 6800 XT

Well I am playing on 1440p and when I play I tend to notice that my GPU isn't fully utilized when playing games. Since I have a somewhat of a older mid-range processor I realized that I need a new, faster one.
My rig is only for gaming / light work. Definitely not heavy CPU loads such as rendering etc. No overclocking planned. My budget sits at around 500 Euro.

I have been looking into upgrade options and three (possibly four) upgrades came to my mind:

• Keep AM4 and upgrade CPU to Zen3 (5800X, 5700X, 5800X3D). Motherboard supports Zen 3(D).
• Switch to Intel 1700 (possibly 12600K / 12700K) with DDR4
• Wait for Raptor lake (and hope it supports DDR4)

4th option is to migrate to Zen 4 in the fall. But I don't want to invest so much money into early DDR5 adoption.

What upgrade path would you take if you were me?

Thanks

 

[Hyderz]

Hello,

currently my setup is mentioned on my profile. But to make it easier my key parts.

CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Motherboard	ASUS Prime B350-Plus
RAM	DDR4 2x16GB @ 3600MT CL16
GPU	RX 6800 XT

Well I am playing on 1440p and when I play I tend to notice that my GPU isn't fully utilized when playing games. Since I have a somewhat of a older mid-range processor I realized that I need a new, faster one.
My rig is only for gaming / light work. Definitely not heavy CPU loads such as rendering etc. No overclocking planned. My budget sits at around 500 Euro.

I have been looking into upgrade options and three (possibly four) upgrades came to my mind:

• Keep AM4 and upgrade CPU to Zen3 (5800X, 5700X, 5800X3D). Motherboard supports Zen 3(D).
• Switch to Intel 1700 (possibly 12600K / 12700K) with DDR4
• Wait for Raptor lake (and hope it supports DDR4)

4th option is to migrate to Zen 4 in the fall. But I don't want to invest so much money into early DDR5 adoption.

What upgrade path would you take if you were me?

Thanks

i'd do nothing and save up the cash and see what 7000 series brings then make a decision but that requires a new mobo/ram

im only saying that because your system is fine, as it is, the cpu might be on the slightly slower side compared to more newer cpus but its still no slouch

 

[SpittinFax]

Hey, my suggestion would actually be to play around with CPU settings before reaching the conclusion that the CPU is confirmed as the limiting factor. See if overclocking or underclocking has any noticeable impact. Helps to make a more informed decision rather than just assuming it's the CPU.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Imo the 6800XT would really benefit from a 5800X3D or you could just jump to 1700, though expensive but it will support Raptor lake, which "could" be better than Zen 4

 

[AlwaysHope]

Go for ADL asap, putting a high end graphics card on a board with PCIe 3.0 support only, is wasted potential of that GPU.

 

[The King]

ADL is great. I came close to buying a 12600k/12700K setup last month.
Managed to get a ZEN3 at MSRP last week and its nothing short of awesome!

Upgrading to ADL when Zen4 launch is not that far away is not something I would do.

 

[AusWolf]

If your motherboard model has support for it, do a BIOS update and get a 5800X3D. A platform upgrade would more likely be a "sidegrade" (= a total waste of money) in your case.

 

[Durvelle27]

Upgrade. It makes no sense to buy a whole new platform when you can just plop a better CPU in and keep going

Go for ADL asap, putting a high end graphics card on a board with PCIe 3.0 support only, is wasted potential of that GPU.

It's been proving with the 6800s and 3080s and above see barely a 5% difference when using PCIe 3.0 vs PCIe 4.0. So how is potential wasted when there wouldn't even be a 5FPS difference.

The only time it ever seemed to make a difference is with this low bandwidth limited GPUs like the RX 6400/6500XT

 

[lexluthermiester]

Hello,

currently my setup is mentioned on my profile. But to make it easier my key parts.

CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Motherboard	ASUS Prime B350-Plus
RAM	DDR4 2x16GB @ 3600MT CL16
GPU	RX 6800 XT

Well I am playing on 1440p and when I play I tend to notice that my GPU isn't fully utilized when playing games. Since I have a somewhat of a older mid-range processor I realized that I need a new, faster one.
My rig is only for gaming / light work. Definitely not heavy CPU loads such as rendering etc. No overclocking planned. My budget sits at around 500 Euro.

I have been looking into upgrade options and three (possibly four) upgrades came to my mind:

• Keep AM4 and upgrade CPU to Zen3 (5800X, 5700X, 5800X3D). Motherboard supports Zen 3(D).
• Switch to Intel 1700 (possibly 12600K / 12700K) with DDR4
• Wait for Raptor lake (and hope it supports DDR4)

4th option is to migrate to Zen 4 in the fall. But I don't want to invest so much money into early DDR5 adoption.

What upgrade path would you take if you were me?

Thanks

I would upgrade to a 5800X. Everything else in your system is very solid and with a 5800X your system will be very fast and last you a few years.

Imo the 6800XT would really benefit from a 5800X3D

There is this too, if you can find a 5800X3D for a good price.

 

[TheLostSwede]

The only time it ever seemed to make a difference is with this low bandwidth limited GPUs like the RX 6400/6500XT

Castrated interface cards you mean?

 

[Kapone33]

I would get a 5800X3D. There is something to the thought process that the 5800X3D could be the king for Gaming going forward. PS5 and Xbox Games are made on AM4 and the x3D is AM4 on some serious steroids....For Gaming. Even a 5600 though would be a noticeable improvement over the 3600 in Gaming though.

 

[Hugis]

i dont see support for the chips your wanting to upgrade too?

scratch that it in the bios files not cpu list

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[Kapone33]

i dont see support for the chips your wanting to upgrade too?

PRIME｜Motherboards｜ASUS Global

ASUS Prime series is expertly engineered to unleash the full potential of AMD and Intel processors. Boasting a robust power design, comprehensive cooling solutions and intelligent tuning options, Prime series motherboards provide daily users and DIY PC builders a range of performance tuning...

www.asus.com

Do you mean this one?

PRIME｜Motherboards｜ASUS Global

ASUS Prime series is expertly engineered to unleash the full potential of AMD and Intel processors. Boasting a robust power design, comprehensive cooling solutions and intelligent tuning options, Prime series motherboards provide daily users and DIY PC builders a range of performance tuning...

www.asus.com

 

[Hugis]

Do you mean this one?

PRIME｜Motherboards｜ASUS Global

ASUS Prime series is expertly engineered to unleash the full potential of AMD and Intel processors. Boasting a robust power design, comprehensive cooling solutions and intelligent tuning options, Prime series motherboards provide daily users and DIY PC builders a range of performance tuning...

www.asus.com

ahh was looking in cpu support not bios, good catch

 

[najsr]

Thank you for your replies. I'll try to get the 5800X3D for a reasonable price. Currently it retails at around 530 Euro in local stores.

i dont see support for the chips your wanting to upgrade too?

PRIME｜Motherboards｜ASUS Global

ASUS Prime series is expertly engineered to unleash the full potential of AMD and Intel processors. Boasting a robust power design, comprehensive cooling solutions and intelligent tuning options, Prime series motherboards provide daily users and DIY PC builders a range of performance tuning...

www.asus.com

Latest BETA bios has AM4 AGESA V2 PI 1.2.0.7. So it definitely supports Zen3 and Zen3D.
Fun fact: the last 2 BETA BIOSes are the most stable among all of the released versions.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I would get a 5800X3D.

The OP does have a 500eur budget and that might mean they either have to spend a bit more or go for the 5800X.

 

[Deleted member 202104]

Personally I’d get either the 5600 or the 5700x.

The 5800x3d is a halo product and you pay a premium for it.

Save the rest of your budget for an upgrade later.

 

[Durvelle27]

Personally I’d get either the 5600 or the 5700x.

The 5800x3d is a halo product and you pay a premium for it.

Save the rest of your budget for an upgrade later.

Halo product but it is faster in gaming

 

[Deleted member 202104]

Halo product but it is faster in gaming

Yes, but for almost twice the cost.

Is 200-250 euro worth the 7% difference at 1440p?

 

[Nike_486DX]

5800X3d ftw, just upgrade the cpu and you are golden. If you buy 1700 it will be unnecessary waste, as they will release another platform the following year rendering the 1700 obsolete.

Another route is to wait for AM5.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Personally I’d get either the 5600

That's a not a worthy upgrade from the 3600 for the money that would be spent.

or the 5700x.

Not as good an upgrade either coming from a 3600. Bang-for-buck, the 5800X is the best option.

 

[Durvelle27]

Yes, but for almost twice the cost.

Is 200-250 euro worth the 7% difference at 1440p?

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Why not get the best of the best if budget permits

OP already has a top of the line GPU, It wouldn't make sense not to pair it with the best possible CPU he can get. His budget is 500 Euro which is more than enough for a 5800X3D.

 

[freeagent]

5800X3D is good for games but that’s about it, no? In everything else it seems to lag behind, and because of that, to me it’s not worth it’s halo price.

 

[Dr. Dro]

I agree with the 5800X3D camp. It's an easy, all-in-one solution that will place you at the very top of the gaming charts right now. You already have 32 GB of good RAM so, you'll have an amazing experience with the X3D.

 

[Durvelle27]

5800X3D is good for games but that’s about it, no? In everything else it seems to lag behind, and because of that, to me it’s not worth it’s halo price.

OP also stated he rig is only for "Gaming" so none of that matters

When it comes to gaming the 5800X3D is the clear winner in CPU limited games compared to any other Ryzen