Upgrade CPU from AM2 to AM3, Is that Possible?

Mohammed · May 13, 2014

Hi TPU

okay, I am really confused about this, I have read a lot of threads, but still not understand.

My friend want to upgrade his system, he has those Mb brand AsRock

- ALiveNF6P-VSTA ............................................................................... Support 4 core ( TDP 125 )
- A780LM .................................................................................................. Support 6 core ( TDP 140 )
- ASRock K10N78FullHD-hSLI R3.0 ............................................ Support 6 core ( TDP 140 )

I have suggestion for him some CPU like

- Phenom X3 8750
- Phenom X4 9950
- Phenom II X6 1055T

but After reading more thread, I have noticed some are using AM3 CPU on A780LM , wow ⊙__⊙ . how possible?!,
Also, AsRock mention "Support with AM3 / AM2+ CPU"

My Q Is

Is it possible to upgrade to FX6300 ? I mean (new FX6300 ) and ( used II X6 1055T ) have same price
also there is good price on AMD FX-4300

Thanks
God bless all

brandonwh64 · May 13, 2014

FX6300 is AM3+ not AM3

newtekie1 · May 13, 2014

AM2 CPUs have a DDR2 memory controller, hence why AM2 motherboards use DDR2 memory.
AM3 CPUs have a DDR2 and DDR3 memory controller, so they will work on AM2 and AM3 motherboards with DDR2 or DDR3.
AM3+ CPUs only have a DDR3 memory controller, so they will only work on AM3+ motherboards(and some AM3 motherboards).

Mohammed · May 13, 2014

oh i miss that +
not seen that sorry :oops:

_JP_ · May 13, 2014

Mohammed said:
- ALiveNF6P-VSTA ............................................................................... Support 4 core ( TDP 125 )
- A780LM .................................................................................................. Support 6 core ( TDP 140 )
- ASRock K10N78FullHD-hSLI R3.0 ............................................ Support 6 core ( TDP 140 )

It actually works more like this:
ALiveNF6P-VSTA
- Quadcores (Agena\Phenom I x4) @ up to 125W

A780LM
- Hexacores (Thuban\Phenom II x6) @ 95W
- Quadcores (Deneb\Phenom II x4) @ up to 125W

ASRock K10N78FullHD-hSLI R3.0
- Hexacores (Thuban\Phenom II x6) @ up to 125W
- Quadcores (Deneb\Phenom II x4) @ up to 125W

Since you got to the effort of getting to each motherboard's page, you could have just continued to check the "CPU support list" to see which one works for the motherboards you listed.
AM3+ (AMD FX) won't work on those boards. Regular AM3s will, except for the 1st board.

suraswami · May 13, 2014

Even though the manufacturers has listed X6 CPUs on the board's support list, some managed to blew the VRMs under extreme load (say some crazy hours of Prime 95, CPU crunching etc). So be watchful of the VRM temps.

check out this thread.

http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-motherboards-vrm-info-database

_JP_ · May 14, 2014

And exactly because they're FM2 that it means they are not compatible at all. It's a completely different socket.
Just check the each board's compatible CPU list, to see what works.

Mohammed · May 14, 2014

sorry sorry
oh god AMD make me :banghead:

craze

I think i will buy X4 9950
Thanks JP

suraswami · May 14, 2014

I think if going Quad, your best bet would be a PII X4 955 BE. Even at stock clock its much better than 9950.

OneMoar · May 15, 2014

nope I would't run a 125W cpu on any of those boards you WILL Pop the VRM's like ... well popcorn

Mohammed · May 17, 2014

OneMoar said:
nope I would't run a 125W cpu on any of those boards you WILL Pop the VRM's like ... well popcorn

CPU-Upgrade.com showing that Mb ( 2-3 ) are support 140TDP,

suraswami said:
I think if going Quad, your best bet would be a PII X4 955 BE. Even at stock clock its much better than 9950.

that will killing me, it's expensive
AMD Phenom II X4 955 = 90$
AMD FX-6350 = 95$
what's :eek:

going on ?!

AM2 has craze ಥ_ಥ price

anyway, I have already bought AMD Phenom X4 9750 , If this CPU doing good i will take 2 like them or better
i got it with good price 50$

_JP_ · May 17, 2014

Mohammed said:
CPU-Upgrade.com showing that Mb ( 2-3 ) are support 140TDP,

Yet, notice that no AMD CPU listed there is rated above 125W.
And I'm with OneMore. 125W CPUs will work on them, but those VRMs might not last for a long while with a lot of stress put trough them. Both lack heatsinks even.

OneMoar · May 17, 2014

just because the manufactor says you can does not mean its a good idea the older vrm designs on those cheap boards where garbage they would routinely go up in smoke when pushed

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Upgrade CPU from AM2 to AM3, Is that Possible?

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