Vertical mice in gaming

[lexluthermiester]

I would strongly advise against buying a 125 Hz mouse for gaming.

Out of curiosity, why?

 

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I myself like large sized mouse. somwhere where I can rest the ring/pinky. but very hard to find. lots of garbage overpriced mice. logitech is low quality for like 10 years now. never bought razor. they all look the same and small. I buy off brands. and replace them every 2-3 years.

 

[Vayra86]

Personally cant say ergonomic mice help a lot. Used a vertical mouse for 6 months. FPS aiming and accurate pointer work are harder. Youre not going to be as fast as you are on a regular mouse, Im also not so sure this is any help for wrists. Some exercises and regular breaks / different motion help a lot more.

Have gone back to regular mice, cant say its making a difference either on wrist strain. What did help? Fitness, high intensity exercise, cardio.

 

[dgianstefani]

Out of curiosity, why?

Mouse update rate is lower than most gaming monitor refresh rate, and you will notice this, besides the obvious poor click and motion latency, even 1000 Hz is noticeable compared to a good implementation of a faster mouse.

There's a reason they're relegated to office mice.

2000 Hz is what I would consider the standard for high refresh, 1000 Hz minimum for 120 Hz and below monitors, 2000 Hz + if you play anything competitively.

Personally cant say ergonomic mice help a lot. Used a vertical mouse for 6 months. FPS aiming and accurate pointer work are harder. Youre not going to be as fast as you are on a regular mouse, Im also not so sure this is any help for wrists. Some exercises and regular breaks / different motion help a lot more.

Have gone back to regular mice, cant say its making a difference either on wrist strain. What did help? Fitness, high intensity exercise, cardio.

Mainly due to the weight I'd imagine, not the form factor. Most of these vertical mice are 2-4x heavier than competitive standard mice. My Viper V3 Pro is 53 g, the Pro Click Vertical is 150 g.

 

[SN2716057]

I have an el cheapo Speedlink Pavio ergonomic mouse at work which works great with Sudoku.

But I have tried it with other games too (at home), it worked just fine in Valheim, Arma 3, and Cyberpunk 2077.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Interesting. I've been running my Redragon Griffin at 500hz and haven't noticed or had any issues. I have tried it at it's 125hz, that was noticeable, to a point. At 250hz, there was no issue. Could run it at 1000hz but for the kind of gaming I do, it would not make much of a difference, if any.

 

[Vayra86]

Mouse update rate is lower than most gaming monitor refresh rate, and you will notice this, besides the obvious poor click and motion latency, even 1000 Hz is noticeable compared to a good implementation of a faster mouse.

There's a reason they're relegated to office mice.

2000 Hz is what I would consider the standard for high refresh, 1000 Hz minimum for 120 Hz and below monitors, 2000 Hz + if you play anything competitively.


Mainly due to the weight I'd imagine, not the form factor. Most of these vertical mice are 2-4x heavier than competitive standard mice. My Viper V3 Pro is 53 g, the Pro Click Vertical is 150 g.

Nah its not the weight, if you can't move 100g-150g around rapidly, something's wrong honestly... that's absolutely nothing. In fact, I find lighter mice can be harder to control instead. Its also part of what you're used to maybe. But I don't feel any correlation between higher weight and lower accuracy. They're all light.

I've used 130g competitively just fine. But not vertical. A big part I think has to do with how you have to use your index finger. It is much easier keeping the mouse fixated in the same spot while clicking on a regular mouse than on a vertical one, because on the vertical one, you're actually squeezing, and that's a whole hand movement, so it'll move the base of the mouse. After some time, that gets less and you are more focused on the click than the squeeze, but you're still pushing your finger to the side, and not downwards where the force gets absorbed by the desk.

Ironically, then, the end result is that I was using the vertical mouse in a more cramped fashion than I would a regular mouse that comfortably 'moves and shoots' in games. A vertical mouse is really always 'held' while on a regular mouse your hand 'rests'. And if you have to do hard work with it, you will intensify your grip to get accuracy.

 

[Rover4444]

Holy shit a vertical gaming mouse from an actual company, now I don't have to do the Chinese mouse lottery... but I still will though

Oh yeah and I heard that those Logitech mice suck ass durability and gaming-wise. Great mice otherwise...

 

[dgianstefani]

Holy shit a vertical gaming mouse from an actual company, now I don't have to do the Chinese mouse lottery... but I still will though

Oh yeah and I heard that those Logitech mice suck ass durability and gaming-wise. Great mice otherwise...

It's 125 Hz so it does suck gaming wise, durability I can't comment, but the switches are not optical so will likely eventually suffer from logitech patented double clicking issue.

 

[Frag_Maniac]

Holy shit a vertical gaming mouse from an actual company, now I don't have to do the Chinese mouse lottery... but I still will though

Oh yeah and I heard that those Logitech mice suck ass durability and gaming-wise. Great mice otherwise...

When you have to pay $120 or more just to get one from a company known for making acceptable gaming products, there's good reason to take a chance on that lottery.

 

[Kovoet]

Verdict from my side. For the first time in three years my hand did not shake at all and tried it in Call of Duty as well as the game I am presently playing which is sniper elite resistance. I also think it's to do with the size of the mouse as it's fairly large. It does feel weird but for the first time ever I did not need to clutch onto a mouse.

The software has a lot to be desired for though also only two DPI settings and that is the only down side to it so far.. I have my old G502 X plugged in ready if I need it.

Will keep on trying and let you guys know. But it certainly did large hands also felt weird but in a good way.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Verdict from my side. For the first time in three years my hand did not shake at all and tried it in Call of Duty as well as the game I am presently playing which is sniper elite resistance. I also think it's to do with the size of the mouse as it's fairly large. It does feel weird but for the first time ever I did not need to clutch onto a mouse.

Nice! Glad to hear you're having a good experience. It's for this reason I think this type of mouse was created. It's niche, but a very good one!

But it certainly did large hands also felt weird but in a good way.

I have the same problem. Huge hands make for rough mousing..