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[Valantar]

It depends what you compare, France and Japan have similar prices for example, consoles prices are similar to those in the US, the same with TVs.
Compared to the US/France (by extention some other EU markets) the prices are similar, but maybe compared to Taiwan it could make sense.

Consoles are a poor comparison, as it is a non-competitive market with essentially zero margins, meaning console makers decide prices outright. Sales and rebates are all centrally organized (and are near nonexistent, with bundles being the main thing), and you never see stores with meaningful price competition. Also, Europe typically has 25% VAT vs. the 10% rate in Japan, which skews things. I would recommend comparing commodity products - laptops, phones, etc., but to also look at which models are available, as a lot of the price difference often comes from SKU differences and entry price levels.

 

[TheLostSwede]

It depends what you compare, France and Japan have similar prices for example, consoles prices are similar to those in the US, the same with TVs.
Compared to the US/France (by extention some other EU markets) the prices are similar, but maybe compared to Taiwan it could make sense.

A bit off topic, but I guess you've never bought fresh fruit in Japan?

I've compared prices of electronics for a long time and Japan is never competitive. Yes they might not be the most expensive place in the world, but because they're a bit of a special market, a lot of things are more pricey there. A bit like Australia and New Zealand I'd say.
Europe is in general cheaper than all three.

Taiwan is in general not very cheap either, I've found certain things cheaper in Europe and the general selection is often better. The mentality here is often that the cheap one is the best one, which means many normal products are luxury goods here.

 

[Tardian]

In Australia:

https://www.umart.com.au/Asus-ROG-Strix-27in-4K-144Hz-G-Sync-Gaming-Monitor--XG27UQ_54666G.html 1299 AUD

https://www.pccasegear.com/products...g7-4k-uhd-144hz-freesync-hdr-ips-28in-monitor 1299 AUD

https://www.computeralliance.com.au/43-asus-rog-swift-pg43uq-4k-va-gaming-monitor-with-speakers 2199 AUD

https://www.videopro.com.au/p-14335-lg-48-oled48c1ptb-self-lit-oled-4k-ultra-hd-smart-tv-2021.aspx 2180 AUD

Why do I have an LG 48 inch C1 OLED? They are really good.

 

[las]

You can get a LG 48" OLED with 120 Hz native + VRR for the same price, 10 bit panel + proper hdr support.
120 Hz OLED has better motion and speed than 150 Hz LCD. Zero smearing on OLED and instant pixel transistion.

42" OLED in 3-6 months (CES 2022 release) .. these are going to sell well for PC market I think. More desktop friendly. Next level image quality.

It's sad that PC monitors in general are at least 5 years behind TV market, in terms of image quality..
HDR on PC monitors especially is lacking and the ones that do it "okay" has an insane price tag. It's mostly a gimmick on PC monitors.

 

[trsttte]

You can get a LG 48" OLED with 120 Hz native + VRR for the same price, 10 bit panel + proper hdr support.
120 Hz OLED has better motion and speed than 150 Hz LCD. Zero smearing on OLED and instant pixel transistion.

42" OLED in 3-6 months (CES 2022 release) .. these are going to sell well for PC market I think. More desktop friendly. Next level image quality.

It's sad that PC monitors in general are at least 5 years behind TV market, in terms of image quality..
HDR on PC monitors especially is lacking and the ones that do it "okay" has an insane price tag. It's mostly a gimmick on PC monitors.

A lot of us still don't trust OLED for a PC monitor - I'm certainly on that group. I don't want to get into a debate about how oled burn in is or isn't a thing, for me just the chance is enough for a hard no, i don't care that I can hide the taskbar and use a black desktop background and this... and then that... and then whatever, more trouble than it's worth.

PS: Linus of LTT will do a video soon about how his oled already has a crosshair after ~6 months irc from the 4 window zones he's using - you can say he is using it wrong, for me that's just using it which makes the technology inappropriate for monitor use

 

[Tardian]

A lot of us still don't trust OLED for a PC monitor - I'm certainly on that group. I don't want to get into a debate about how oled burn in is or isn't a thing, for me just the chance is enough for a hard no, i don't care that I can hide the taskbar and use a black desktop background and this... and then that... and then whatever, more trouble than it's worth.

PS: Linus of LTT will do a video soon about how his oled already has a crosshair after ~6 months irc from the 4 window zones he's using - you can say he is using it wrong, for me that's just using it which makes the technology inappropriate for monitor use

According to the magazine Korean Business Newspaper Citing industry sources, LG Display is to present the first prototypes of 42-inch OLED TVs at CES 2022 (C1 ranges from LG). The 42-inch OLED TVs were originally supposed to be unveiled at IFA 2021, but LG eventually decided to postpone its schedule a bit. The new 42-inch OLED panels are optimized for gaming and may feature LG Display’s OLED Evo technology, not to increase the maximum brightness of the panel, but to increase its lifespan and reduce the risk of marking.

https://newsbeezer.com/morroco/the-first-42-inch-oled-tvs-planned-for-2022/

All good things come to those who wait.

 

[Chrispy_]

A lot of us still don't trust OLED for a PC monitor - I'm certainly on that group. I don't want to get into a debate about how oled burn in is or isn't a thing, for me just the chance is enough for a hard no, i don't care that I can hide the taskbar and use a black desktop background and this... and then that... and then whatever, more trouble than it's worth.

PS: Linus of LTT will do a video soon about how his oled already has a crosshair after ~6 months irc from the 4 window zones he's using - you can say he is using it wrong, for me that's just using it which makes the technology inappropriate for monitor use

The two OLEDs at work had burn-in within 6 months and were totally ruined within 18 months. My recommendation to avoid OLED for PC use was overruled and even I, in my extreme cynicism of OLED durability, was shocked at just how fast and easily they suffered burn in.

The machines had auto-hide taskbar, an active screensaver, and aggressive sleep timer of 15 minutes set on the display but sadly a lot of applications share common screen elements and we had burnt-in shadows of the minimise/restore/close icons, a visible dimming of the image where the scrollbar would usually be and browsers/viewers/windows explorer all seem to have common horizontal line elements in their menu interface that lead to a collection of shadows one UI "row" down from the top edge; Even across different applications, the effects of an address bar of some type with distinct icon blobs to the left and right of that address bar seem to be almost a standard layout for many different applications.

I wouldn't buy OLED for a PC or a console, and I'd have reservations about using it for content with a regular logo in the same place.