Vista Beta 2 Installed

[Azn Tr14dZ]

In the thread "Windows Vista Beta 2 Available", on the first page there's a link to it. Takes like a day to dl though.

 

[Ketxxx]

wow....vista really is craptacular. *sits down and works out which service does what to get RAM usage to a realistic level*

 

[Alec§taar]

Excellent: I like it, & think VISTA will do well, as per usual for MS' OS!

To Tilt the Alt + Tab you now use "Windows Key + Tab" to do the same thing only "Tilt" the tilled Thumbnail view of the selection of windows.

While I think this new feature is cool, I don't see the point, cept Cool Factor.
I like the new Thumbnail view of all the windows when you pass over them while minimized.

First off, 1Strive:

Thanks for the screenshot man, & the tip on HOW to do that type of Window tiling while tabbing thru the active window list - I really DO think that little "bell & whistle" is neat, personally!

(A feature I will use if/when I get to running VISTA here, if ever... probably I will: I always say "Nope, this version of Windows is THE one for me" since Windows 2000, & yet, I always end up running the latest/greatest - as usually, there is/are features that really ARE improvements!)

Vista is PIMP.

Well said, & I agree - couldn't have said it better myself (although, @ this point? I am "living vicariously" thru yourself & others checking it out in beta)...

* All in all, though, an important question from me/for me personally:

What are your feelings on how the "Aero Glass" display interface performs with a machine makeup of the calibre of yours?

wow....vista really is craptacular. *sits down and works out which service does what to get RAM usage to a realistic level*

Windows Server 2003 does that as well, via its "SCW" wizards, & it's a timesaver to a good extent!

(I have been tuning/tweaking Windows NT-based OS since 1993-1994 (NT 3.5x) & it can be a chore, no, not shoveling coal into a hot furnace, but can be a hassle, when you have to wait for/stumble upon things that do NOT work if you crank various services off, or pull certain registry hack/tweaks, etc. - the SCW in Win2k3 helps on that latter part, quite a lot).

APK

P.S.=> That last question to 1Strive matters (which is bolded above) the most to me, as our systems are NOT that dissimilar... thanks for the feedback on that account 1Strive... apk

 

[zekrahminator]

Does anyone feel like linking me to the Vista download page? I searched Microsoft's page and they won't lemme. And no, I don't have bittorent lol. Otherwise I would probably be talking to you about my Vista experiences right now .

 

[sadisticflirt]

It runs like crap on this-
Sempron64 3100+ @ 2.25 GHz
80gb 7200rpm drive
512 mb PC3200 ram
9800 Pro 128mb

It laggggggs and oh boy does it LAG! Takes a good 2-4 min to just open media center!

Yeah, um...you have the minimum recommended amount of RAM...what did you expect?

 

[wazzledoozle]

wow....vista really is craptacular. *sits down and works out which service does what to get RAM usage to a realistic level*

Key word is BETA. Everything is in debug and uncompressed form, so it runs slowly and hogs ram.

 

[Azn Tr14dZ]

Does anyone feel like linking me to the Vista download page? I searched Microsoft's page and they won't lemme. And no, I don't have bittorent lol. Otherwise I would probably be talking to you about my Vista experiences right now .

I think you have to have Bittorent. I'm using Azureus, and it's taken me like 7 hours and I"m at 40% so far. Quite a big download. And I already told you, it's on the thread "Windows Vista Beta Available", first page.

 

[sadisticflirt]

Given the specs, how do you think my rig would fair with an installation of Vista?
I saw that your PC was rated 4 only because of the hard drive. I find that quite pretentious and if my windows told me that I would kick it's ass and call it a pussy. Then bitch out Microsoft and ask them who the heck they think they are....

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AMD Athlon64 3200+ OC'd to 2.5Ghz
1GB DDR400 (PC3200) Dual Channel Kingston RAM
Asus A8N-SLI Premium NForce4 SLI Chipset Mobo
HIS X800GTO ICEQII Turbo 256mb GDDR3 PCI-E 16x
200GB Maxtor HDD 7200RPM
Windows XP Pro x64 Edition

 

[Azn Tr14dZ]

When I'm done downloading Windows Vista, do I have to burn it to a DVD?

 

[Azn Tr14dZ]

Given the specs, how do you think my rig would fair with an installation of Vista?
I saw that your PC was rated 4 only because of the hard drive. I find that quite pretentious and if my windows told me that I would kick it's ass and call it a pussy. Then bitch out Microsoft and ask them who the heck they think they are....

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AMD Athlon64 3200+ OC'd to 2.5Ghz
1GB DDR400 (PC3200) Dual Channel Kingston RAM
Asus A8N-SLI Premium NForce4 SLI Chipset Mobo
HIS X800GTO ICEQII Turbo 256mb GDDR3 PCI-E 16x
200GB Maxtor HDD 7200RPM
Windows XP Pro x64 Edition

You should be able to run Vista pretty well on that system.

 

[1Strive]

When I'm done downloading Windows Vista, do I have to burn it to a DVD?

Yes, download as you have describe before. It is a 4GB DVD ISO image. Burn to DVD Disc or mount w/ Daemon Tools. A serial is provided on the other vista thread.

I think to sign up for the Beta you have to be a Microsoft Certified Professional (MCP). I could be worng about that part.
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Some one said before that Vista runs like crap for them.

I would as what "System Preformance Report Score" they got. Example: How much RAM, Proc, Mobo, GPU, HD, ect.

I got a 4 and it runs lightning fast. If they have good systems specs then check your beta drivers. I have had to manualy edit a few of min.

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To Alec§taar - Thanks for the Thanks.

The preformance is the quickest I have seen of any OS including command driven SUN OS 10, Mac OSX, or Server 2003.

Fast, Fast, Hot, Fast, it almost hurts.

I will respond more when I get a chance about Aero Glass.

 

[Solaris17]

Yes, download as you have describe before. It is a 4GB DVD ISO image. Burn to DVD Disc or mount w/ Daemon Tools. A serial is provided on the other vista thread.

I think to sign up for the Beta you have to be a Microsoft Certified Professional (MCP). I could be worng about that part.
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Some one said before that Vista runs like crap for them.

I would as what "System Preformance Report Score" they got. Example: How much RAM, Proc, Mobo, GPU, HD, ect.

I got a 4 and it runs lightning fast. If they have good systems specs then check your beta drivers. I have had to manualy edit a few of min.

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To Alec§taar - Thanks for the Thanks.

The preformance is the quickest I have seen of any OS including command driven SUN OS 10, Mac OSX, or Server 2003.

Fast, Fast, Hot, Fast, it almost hurts.

I will respond more when I get a chance about Aero Glass.

hey were can you take that test.

 

[Alec§taar]

Some one said before that Vista runs like crap for them.

1Strive: Do you know if there is a version of the DxDiag.exe tool in VISTA?

If so, wouldn't using its HELP - Override function POSSIBLY help them run "Aero Glass" faster, by upping the default refresh rate?

Aero Glass, afaik/iirc, is DirectX driven... this may help.

(Also, being certain that in their display properties that "Full Hardware Acceleration" is enabled as well, via -> Display Properties (right-click on desktop, or use control panel display item)/Setttings/Advanced button/Troubleshoot tab (assuming this operates the same way as it does in "older" Windows' OS' that is)).

APK

P.S.=> Might help them out, who knows... provided those tools still exist in MS' latest beta of VISTA, etc. apk

 

[Alec§taar]

To Alec§taar - Thanks for the Thanks.

Not a problem - you come with experience in this field, so it's good to see someone "going at it" & seeing how/where they go right, vs. go wrong, etc.

(Helps me make decisions & estimations, if I am not doing that same testing myself)

Plus, again - your system & mine? NOT that dissimilar... in fact, VERY alike (lol, "great minds DESIGN alike" & all that)... I can gain by your findings.

The preformance is the quickest I have seen of any OS including command driven SUN OS 10, Mac OSX, or Server 2003.

Great news & this is BETA code still, loaded with debug symbols & routines as well... very good sign!

Fast, Fast, Hot, Fast, it almost hurts.

LOL, must be pretty quick, judging by your reaction! Again, not too shabby considering it is still beta/debug loaded code too...

I will respond more when I get a chance about Aero Glass.

Absolutely, do so please.



* I think VISTA's going to be a "hit"... not just for aesthetics & such, but for internal improvements to security & functionality as well!

(I tend to do a bit of reading on this end, & posted a SMALL bit of what is being done in it in various links/urls in this thread & your other one as to that account/statement of mine).

APK

 

[Jimmy 2004]

Might download this if I get time. Making a copy of all the links and info so that when these threads get deleted I'll still have it!

 

[Maphusio]

9800 Video driver error fix

For those of you whom have been having troubles with your Radeon not displaying or registering properly in Vista Beta 2 I recommend ditching the vista drivers, ditching the radeon vista drivers and installing the xp drivers for the radeon. My problems have been resolved by doing this. I now have the "adapter information" displaying properly and video games running correctly. Took me a while I bet it has been posted but, I wanted to post it again to make sure someone did not go through what I did.

 

[Polaris573]

Yeah, I'm having all sorts of video troubles with my X800 as well. I think something is wrong with the ATI Vista drivers or maybe vista isn't playing nice with them. I'll try the XP drivers to see if that resolves the problem.

 

[W1zzard]

anybody feel like writing a windows vista beta 2 preview article for techpowerup?

 

[Steevo]

New features, general thoughts, improvements, etc...?
And mebey highlight some of the differences between basic and ultimate version?

I have ultimate, and as soon as it is available the Exfat format to test too, as well as netstacks to run through, but I dunno if I will get to much of it.


Mebey a serction devoted to it would be better and some assigned areas for users W1zz?

 

[Maphusio]

Yeah, I'm having all sorts of video troubles with my X800 as well. I think something is wrong with the ATI Vista drivers or maybe vista isn't playing nice with them. I'll try the XP drivers to see if that resolves the problem.

Now for the bad news... Windows will crash when your video card goes idle. So the trick is keeping it occupied or turning off hardware acceleration before you leave your PC unattended. I'm trying a different power saving mode that does not involve that yucky yucky thing we call hibernate.

When you weigh your options, at the moment, the XP drivers are WAY better than Microsoft’s or ATi's for Vista. I'm pleased I can play games once again but disappointed that I was unable to figure out why Vista does not like the available drivers for my 9800.

And yes it would be very interesting to read an article outlining the differences between the OS's and the problems and fixes to date... Perhaps just a FAQ or wiki?